Originally Posted by lionessrampant
If you don't believe in abortions, I respct that completely. But the minute you infringe on MY right to make choices about MY future, MY family, MY body...then I have a real problem with you.
The thing that you left out of the list above is that there is another person involved. You have the woman, and you have the unborn child. I wouldnt tell you what to do with your life, but who is making decisions here that affect the other life? I have heard a lot of outrage on these boards about "disposable pets". Isn't this like treating unborn children as "disposable children"? If you voluntarily have sexual relations with someone, and inadvertently you become pregnant, (whether or not you were using contraception) shouldnt that person have to accept the consequences of that decision, particularly when it results in the creation of another human being? And btw I agree that we should make contraception widely available to avoid unwanted pregnancy. But a risk of sex is that contraception might fail, and people should accept that risk, and the consequences of it.
But, as per my earlier post, it's not a child. It's a bundle of cells. And any medical textbook will tell you that, which is why anti-abortion things always crash and burn in (any competent) court.
If I brought a child into the world right now, that child would have nothing. No opportunity, no money, no home, and two very inexperienced parents. Is that a fair thing to do the kid? To ruin my life, my SO's life AND it's life? As with pets, we can't save them all and unfortunately, sometimes a quiet, peaceful death is much better than the life laid out in front of it. The difference here is that in this country, human adoptions are a total snafu and there are next to no good homes available due to all of the red tape and people going through other countries. Pets that are disposed of, having next to no govt intervention, are changing hands all the time. Sometimes that opportunity is for the better. I can't imagine that anyone would advocate such a system for children as well.
And yet, I was put on this planet to be a sexual being. I mean, that's why we're here. TO continue our species. So you're saying that I should abstain from sex until I can afford/want/take care of a kid, because what if my birth control fails? But that creates a double standard. Men can go around having sex with whomever they want and take little to no responsibility for their actions. My whole life would be ruined. Now you've created a fundamental breach in the equality of genders.
And pro-choice is NOT the same as pro-abortions. I would love to see a world where BC is free and easily accessible to low-income people, over the counter for young women and affordable and accessible 100% of the time for the rest of us. I would also like to see Plan B become as easy to get as tic tacs. Note: you can abuse Nyquil, and it's still available over the counter, as are cigarettes, alcohol, McDonald's, Draino, Bleach, and countless other dangerous or unhealthy things that people abuse and use for sinister purposes ad no one gets fussy about them. If I could run down to Wal-greens and pick up some $20 birth control right this second, without a prescription, I think you'd see abortion rates go down quite a bit. I'd love to see that as much as you, but mostly because abortion has become so stigmatized that the pro-life world has created this culture of shame and silence surrounding women who receive abortions, which also makes me