Peritonio Pericardio Diafragmatic Hernia.......he needs surgery!!!!

You havent failed Lots of luck and let us know what happens

They have just called me from the blue Cross,

His castration as far was good , and they are waiting for him to waik up....
They have tooken X RAYS for him , and they have discovered an ubnormality: Peritonio Pericardio Diafragmatic Hernia.......he needs surgery!!!!

LAter on i go and pick him up, when they call me

Is any one a vat here? or has any Vet friends to advice me

Aww bless him Has the vet not explained more to you?, and is he being operated on by the Blue Cross?

Momos i've merged your other thread with your new one

Momos,

OK, I've just googled this condition and here is what I have found. There is a hole in the sheath of Indie's gut and part of his intestine is poking through this hole. The surgery that the vet is performing is to push the intestine back to where it should be and to put some webbing over the gap to prevent the intestine from pushing through again and to protect the sheath until it can repair itself.

I don't know if this is common in kittens but it is common in quite a lot of young children. The surgery is routine and given that Indie is young, he will be ok and will recover fairly quickly

Indie will be ok - it is not life threatening but he will have been in some discomfort until now. The operation will fix the problem. You are a good Mama for insisting that the vet do more tests

I am familiar with this condition - when Persil was 5 months old she stopped eating or drinking and her breathing rate increased dramatically. The vet thought parasites and/or infection and treated her with antibiotic for three weeks, by which time she was obviously dying, and living on what I could syringe into her. SO I was advised to take her to a new vet who Xrayed her and diagnosed a diaphragmatic hernia. Like your kit, her intestines were pushing against a hole in her diaphragm until it ruptured completely. It can be caused by an accident, a kick or is also a recognised genetic condition that usually becomes serious at around 6 months of age. Against general advice, one vet offered to operate on her, and she came through fine. She has never looked back and can look forward to a normal life span. I was told that once the rupture is complete there is only a 10% chance of success, so she was lucky and the vet was marvellous. If Indie's hernia is not a total rupture then the chances are much greater. Don't let anyone accuse you of cat abuse - I had that until I researched the condition myself.

I do not think I have ever been so worried about a cat's health as at that time, so I understand totally what you must be going through. If there is anything else you want to ask, please do, but there is lot of information on the web. Persil had three incisions, and took quite a while to recover, so be prepared for a lot of nursing. I do wish you and Indie the best of luck.

I don't know how to post a link to the threads but I just did a search and there are two if you put in 'Persil sick' as keywords and the posts are 'Possible Parasites' and 'Now Persil needs emergency surgery'. Hope there may be some useful info there.

Sending good wishes and healing vibes to Indie as he undergoes his surgery. and prayers to you.

i just came back , from the hospital after the castration and the bad news as well........
My little angel is home and I am on a state of losing it !!!
Why this liitle fighter has to be a case of Medical Journals ?
They have told me is Pericardial-Peritoneal Hernia and he has been born with that, hense the liver, and intestines are close to his heart.!!!

So , DOes anyone knows? Is it better to operate him now ...that he is fine , and risk of losing him ? Or wait for him to grow up a bit ....and see if he needs to ?

Until , tuesday they have told me that I need to make a desision of having a sergyry.....
He needs specialized doctors as is rare case ! My little problem is that his chances are limited as well.....but I cannot afford it ....

And then is the Blue Cross doctors , that they are not so specialized ...but I can afford it......
I dont know if Tesco insurance will help with the expenses ( as is somenthing that he has born with )

OMG!!

I am so sorry that you are having to go through this

Call Tesco's Insurance and see what they say. You have nothing to lose. I can't tell you what to do, but if it were one of my girls and there was a chance, I would take it. Perhaps you can talk to the specialist and come up with some sort of payment plan where you can repay over a period of months/years?

I'm not familiar with the condition but perhaps jennyranson can help as she has been through this before.

I am sending you }}}}good luck and healing vibes{{{{ to you and baby Indie Please give him a big hug from me

Thank you for your PM - I have replied in detail. I was told Persil was a very rare case too, but fortunately I found a surgeon here who was willing to take the chance and operate. Sometimes you can find someone at a university or similar ( I used the Vet Faculty here) who is interested in experimental or rare surgery and will do it cheaply. Don't give up.

Momos, how are you and Indie doing today?

Little angel , indie,

After my horible last night , we came and (after his catration anastatic,) he was full with happiness for games !!!!
He didnt ate nothing in Bluee Cross , but when we came home stoking him and playing he ate like a good boy!!

He eat today as well.

All these 2 days was the most dramatic time I ever spend.
Looking at him and crying, searching in the internet about his condition and reading Medical Journal ( as we are talking here for something so rare and experemental ! ) and this liitle angel , making me games, talking to me , like he never did before! ( its with me only 2 months as he is 6 months now...
Coming next to my PC and talking with me ( Oh , little indie , as If he knows what I am going through... ..)

I called Doctors in Greece ( Im Greek) and all of them they will search over the weekend. .... most of them are telling me to keep him like that for a while , not to operate him because there is a 10 % max for success.

Here , in UK i m quite socked with the Medical system , its rare to find a DOCTOR.
The categories are 1) 5000 pounds the operations eg. Royal Vetenary College,.......money talk.... 2) doctors that are dying for rare experemental cases to add extra knowlege and build up their CV's........like our condition......., and on the top of things

3) you need to be refered , in order to go to the right doctor....

In my this little paragraph , there are so many issues for disscusion!! lool


At the moment we are playing , and he is complaning when I am doing something different other than giving him attention ( with a special voice, niarrrr..... )

I am going back to continue the games ..... xx

Can the Blue Cross not advise you of anyone, and did you check to see if your insurance would cover it?

The chief in the Hospital there wants to operate him , without being cardiologist!!! ( You know what I mean ....experement bla bla bla)
I told her , if she can write the report to the Tesco Pet insurance ........and she said that she will put congenital ! ,
Therefor the Tesco will not cover him , and we will loose the chance of having 2500 pounds paid for it , for a specialist!

So , can you understand that I have no choices at all , at these stage.....
And she wants me to make a disision until Tuesday , of when and if I want him to be operated....



I feel , I am no way out ...

I still think you should call Tesco Insurance and ask their advice. Also, do they have a pet advice line that you could perhaps talk to? I know money is tight for you but I think you should get a second opinion from another vet.

I agree. Have a word with Tescos insurance first, then have a word with another vet because they may do payment plans.

Momos,

It's crunch time today - what have you decided? Did you get in touch with Tesco Insurance or get a second opinion? We're thinking of you and your darling boy Indie

hello !!
I know , my weekend was very productive!!
searching , reading , playing with indie boy at the same time...., i got some opinions as well ( which they sugest to keep him on hold at the moment,)
Tesco , its not going to cover if its congenital ....and the doctor he will write congenital in Tescos paper... So I am afraid i am traped at the moment....
( Is he going to write that because its congenital? Or because he likes to operate him ? ) WHAT DO YOU THink ?

I will find out today the exact case , and I am prepared to ask questions as well to the Doctor....
If I had faith in him , I would definatelly agree to open him have a look , if the liver and heart is conected with tissues... and if yes, i would say to close him down and give him as much life as he could....
I am afraid I do not have faith at the moment .....and my gat feeling says that he would try..... regardless if it was a simple or a difficult case to operate.

Anyway , at the moment we are eating fine , and we have a lot of mood for games ....
I will keep you posted!!

It must be so difficult for you - I have been thinking about it over hte weekend as I petted Persil and thanked fate for sending her a brilliant surgeon when she needed it. I do hope you find a solution - meanwhile I am pleased Indie is playing and eating, and enjoying life as mush as possible.