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post #1 of 13
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I am having a huge problem and was wondering if any one had any advice. I bought my male stud from a well respected cattery in Florida. It is a CFA registered cattery name and she has a website.
I purchased the kitten for 800 dollars for breeding and show rights. She told me the registration papers would come in the mail in 10 days. I bought the kitten on January 15th, 2006. There are still no registration papers in the mail. I have called her and she has assured me that they are coming. Is there any way I can force CFA to get her to give me his papers. I plan to show this kitten and breed him. He will be the one father for all of my kittens.
Do you have any suggestions? I am desperate. I am afraid I got scammed.
post #2 of 13
I would call her and ask her to send them registered so you can track them
post #3 of 13
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I have called her and email her twice. The first time I called her she claimed she was on vacation and that she would send them the following week. Unfortuanately, two weeks passed with no papers. I called her again last week and she assured me that papers were in the mail last Tuesday. Today is Monday and the mail has come. No papers.
post #4 of 13
I would in a non threatening way state if I dont have the papers by one week from today I will have no choice but to have my attorney deal with this.. and then contact the registry
post #5 of 13
Unfortunately this happens a lot. I'm not sure what to tell you other than to keep calling.
post #6 of 13
If you have a contract read it carefully, if it says that you have breeding and showing rights and he comes with papers she is just as obligated to honer the contract as a purchaser is to honer it. If you had the reg numbers on the parents it might be easier to contact the registery, but if you don't you should call any ways, and report her cattery. It is wrong to not give up papers when the breeder is supposed to. I have mine registered early so when the time comes for them to go I have it for the new owner (or if they are being held until altering they can atleast see the papers and know that they will get them.) Good luck to you hope you get them!
(what kind of kitty do you have? Just curious, I like to know what people are breeding)
post #7 of 13
Meg breeds Modern Siamese. She has some very pretty cats.
post #8 of 13
If he's just a kitten, there really is no rush to have papers on him. I know it would make you feel relieved to get the papers but the breeder may be dragging her feet on sending in for the paperwork and she may figure you won't need the papers untill the kitten is old enough to breed and/or show.
I wouldn't worry just yet. Just bug her untill she sends the papers. She'll get tired of hearing from you and get on the ball.
$800 is pretty cheap for a breeder/show, so maybe you can give the breeder a little leway on this. She is probably just very busy.
post #9 of 13
The way I am reading this, your kitten is now probably about 4 or so months old, right? It has been over a month since you've purchased your male and frankly, you should have the papers by now. I agree that the breeder may be busy or is somehow otherwise excusably delayed, the fact is that she made a promise to send the docs within 10 days and she failed to meet her promise. IMO, that makes ALL of us look bad. If she couldn't deliver the docs as promised, then she shouldn't have promised, it is that simple.

This doesn't mean that she is a bad breeder or that she has scammed you. But it is a reflection on how people tend to think of breeders - and when something like this happens, it leaves a permanant bad taste in one's mouth. The experience was not positive and people then tend to be comfortable believing that just because they had a bad experience with one breeder, they will have bad experiences with ALL breeders.

I think the lesson here for ALL of us is to do as we say we are going to do. If we cannot deliver, then don't promise to.

As to this situation, Meg - I would give her one more chance and email or call her again. Be nice, be polite, but remind her that she made a promise to provide you with certain things and she has not delivered. Ask if there is a problem and if there is, offer your assistance in any way which might be helpful to rectify the problem for her. If it is a case of money, offer to cough up the fee to get your docs. Even though it should have been included, at this point, you are probably getting ready to show this boy soon and need his docs - get them however you can from her even if it means you have to pay the little extra. Give her until March 1 and tell her that if you don't have the docs in your hands by then, you will call the registry to file a grievance and ask them to mediate this issue. They will then instruct you on how to proceed.

Best of luck with this, please let us know how it goes.

~gf~
post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by gayef
Meg breeds Modern Siamese. She has some very pretty cats.
Thanks, I was curious, I don't know too much about siamese modern old style apple head or wedge, but they are probley all beautiful!

I have never had too much problems getting or sending papers, although I got delayed sending one womans and she was more anxious then uppset it's a big releif to have them in your hands, until then it always makes you wonder if they really are comming.
I did have to wait a long time on the papers for my first queen, I bought it from a woman and she wasn't the breeder, she was owed the kitten by another lady for stud fees. The breeder would not give me my papers until my cattery was registered and she had a copy of it. I was real worried I wouldn't get them since I hadn't acually bought the cat from her, but as soon as I sent her the cattery registration she sent them immediately and is now my mentor. I did have a little problem with my male too now that I think about it, just before it was time to get him she drops on me that the kittens father hadn't been registered yet so the kittens couldn't be until he was, that made me nervious, we traded kittens, and she already had my kitten and the blue slip, and I didn't have mine. But it all worked out, and like others had said she is probley busy, she didn't get to be a "reputable breeder" by scamming people and not providing papers, so good luck to you I hope all works out, and is there any pics of your lovely kitty in the fur pics so I can see them?
post #11 of 13
Thread Starter 
Great news, I got his registration papers. (Well, not really his final registration, but the little blue slip.) I am so relieved. I was very persistant with the breeder. I called her every two days until she sent them. She lied to me several times, but it all worked out in the end. The final time I spoke to her I told her my next call would be from my attorney. That was what worked. The day I told her that she sent the papers.
Thanks for everyones help. I am expecting a litter this week with one of my queens. So I will be asking for help when the time comes:>
post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by megmar6853
Great news, I got his registration papers. (Well, not really his final registration, but the little blue slip.) I am so relieved. I was very persistant with the breeder. I called her every two days until she sent them. She lied to me several times, but it all worked out in the end. The final time I spoke to her I told her my next call would be from my attorney. That was what worked. The day I told her that she sent the papers.
Thanks for everyones help. I am expecting a litter this week with one of my queens. So I will be asking for help when the time comes:>

Good for you! Some times you have to be that way with people, it's too bad but, it has to be done once in a while. Some times they just need a little motivation, like a call to the attorny, but im glad it all worked out.
Good luck with the litter due this week, I have one due in about 5 weeks, even though it's a ways away im still so excited!
post #13 of 13
*big sigh of relief* Great news! I am glad it worked out and you can take care of business for your guy now! I would love to see pictures, Meg - in fact, I would bet we would ALL love to see pictures of your cats.
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