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post #31 of 47
I've merged threads here.
post #32 of 47
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Originally Posted by Catkiki
I don't agree with PETA for the reasons that are mentioned here.

I don't like it that they force their views down people's throat. God created man to have dominion over the animals, not the other way around. I eat meat and no one has the right to tell me I can't. And as for feeding my cats a vegan diet?? No way! Cats are meat eaters!! In the old days, people trapped beaver, fox and other animals for their fur. People would have frozen to death if they didn't have furs to keep them warm.

All in all, PETA is not the way to go. Not if they say to "release" a domesticated animal to "fend" for themself and that they would be happier. All the poor animal would do is starve and wander why their people abandoned them. That is animal cruelty.

I agree.

Ah well I decided tommrow i am gonna get the biggest burger they have their..for my lunch..and conviently need to talk to someone away from my booth so closer to theirs..while i eat hehehehe i am evil
post #33 of 47
PETA, I have nothing good to say about them, same goes for the HSUS. Both are terrible
post #34 of 47
Thread Starter 
Thank you Scamper....for your story....I will be very interested to hear about this supposed "Childrens coloring book"

Sorry you had to go thru it though....sounds awful...Like pulling teeth
post #35 of 47
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Originally Posted by joanne511
I keep hoping that Hollywood celebs will stop speaking for PETA and go with other animal rights programs, but alas...
I keep wondering what the draw to PETA is for the rich and famous? I don't get it. Most of these people - ok, at least some of these people do have brains. They are intelligent. So why can't they see through the PETA agenda?

Case in point - my personal "god", Trent Reznor (Nine Inch Nails). He's one of the most intelligent musicians around. His lyrics are amazing. While I don't agree with all of his political stances, I respect him too much to let something like that get in the way. But then I learn one of his new projects is narrating one of those hiddeous PETA videos. Oh Trent - where is your brain? How did they recruit you, as someone who sees through so much political propoganda, as someone who questions everything?

As for that PETA booth, unfortunately it doesn't surprise me at all. What does surprise me is that the organizers of a PRIVATE family oriented event allowed them to have a booth. Like there was any chance that their booth would be child-friendly and appropriate. But of course they want to be at a child-friendly event. The point of those pamphlets and videos is to scare the kids, to scar them for life, to give them nightmares about those animals, in order to indoctrinate them to the PETA agenda.
post #36 of 47
Its Rodeo Week here and, as usual, PETA will be protesting outside the rodeo grounds.

Our rodeo features a huge non-mechanized parade and, every year, PETA submits an entry form. Every year, they are denied. The rodeo is run by the Jaycees and, as a private organization with a parade permit, they can ban anyone they want to.

PETA usually follows the end of the parade, pulling their wacko stunts, waving signs and chanting. Since they are not officially part of the parade, they are cited for obstructing traffic. They are also soundly booed by the parade crowd.
post #37 of 47
I sometimes participate in a few other (international) pet forums, and all of them have so many negative threads/posts about PETA that I really wonder who actually supports the organization. It seems to have acquired a very bad rep in a score of countries.
post #38 of 47
If anyone wants to see the most, ahem, controversial of the PETA comics for kids published in recent years, see this link http://www.furisdead.com/feat-momfur.asp. It is called "Your mommy kills animals".
post #39 of 47
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Originally Posted by jcat
I sometimes participate in a few other (international) pet forums, and all of them have so many negative threads/posts about PETA that I really wonder who actually supports the organization. It seems to have acquired a very bad rep in a score of countries.
And it's really a shame. I mean, for people like myself...I am against eating and wearing animals, I'm against animal testing, I'm against hunting, I'm against the circus and rodeos, I'm against selective breeding...but the whacko's like PETA have made it basically impossible for myself and others like me to have a legitimate lobbying voice, since they're too busy messing things up with their really, quite immature tactics. It would be nice to have a group or forum for people who don't wish to use animals, but want to try to elicit change and encourage a specific lifestyle WITHOUT alienating every one. The idea can't be to completely stop animal use dead in its tracks, 100%, all at the same time. It'll never happen and I accept that people in western cultures will always eat meat, drink milk, wear fur and hunt and get pedigreed pets...but what I CAN do, and other could to if not for orgs like PETA, is engage in an informed discussion that will hopefully encourage others to cut out animal use in their lifestyles as much as is humanly possible. I don't think PETA understands that everyone draws their line somewhere.
post #40 of 47
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Originally Posted by Nebula11
Thank you Scamper....for your story....I will be very interested to hear about this supposed "Childrens coloring book"

Sorry you had to go thru it though....sounds awful...Like pulling teeth
Well..the book was what i thought. Stupid..horrible..and NOT for kids.
post #41 of 47
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Originally Posted by valanhb
I keep wondering what the draw to PETA is for the rich and famous? I don't get it. Most of these people - ok, at least some of these people do have brains. They are intelligent. So why can't they see through the PETA agenda?

Case in point - my personal "god", Trent Reznor (Nine Inch Nails). He's one of the most intelligent musicians around. His lyrics are amazing. While I don't agree with all of his political stances, I respect him too much to let something like that get in the way. But then I learn one of his new projects is narrating one of those hiddeous PETA videos. Oh Trent - where is your brain? How did they recruit you, as someone who sees through so much political propoganda, as someone who questions everything?

As for that PETA booth, unfortunately it doesn't surprise me at all. What does surprise me is that the organizers of a PRIVATE family oriented event allowed them to have a booth. Like there was any chance that their booth would be child-friendly and appropriate. But of course they want to be at a child-friendly event. The point of those pamphlets and videos is to scare the kids, to scar them for life, to give them nightmares about those animals, in order to indoctrinate them to the PETA agenda.
Actually Peta was not "allowed" so easy. The organizers of the event, denied their initial application even though it was gonna be paid space. Peta threatened to not only picket the event but do anti event commercials.
post #42 of 47
Did you have a great big hamburger like you said? LOL that would have been funny.
post #43 of 47
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Originally Posted by Catkiki
Did you have a great big hamburger like you said? LOL that would have been funny.

YUP i did, LOL and I was eating beef Jerky all day hehehehe. They kept giving me dirty looks. and I didnt care. I am all for humane treatment I am. But I am not a peta person, and their video of chickens, and cows and pigs that day just made me more anti them. If they wanna be vegetarian thats fine. But its not for me I like meat. so :P on them LOL
post #44 of 47
While on the conversation of PETA, there are more AR groups who are just as bad. API, (Animal Protection Institute) I had some friends who were spied on by this loser group, and there is ALF, (Animal Liberation Front). These groups are nothing but terrorists in my book and do NOTHING to help animals. There are even more out there
post #45 of 47
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Originally Posted by AmberThe Bobcat
(Animal Liberation Front). These groups are nothing but terrorists in my book and do NOTHING to help animals. There are even more out there
They must have taken a course in "How to choose a name that sounds like a terrorist organization". That was the first thing I thought of when I heard of that name.
post #46 of 47
I give credit where credit is due. PETA is a great friend to animals who are tortured for food, in labs, in circuses, in rodeos, and in many other situations.

However, on balance I come out "con". Why? Because PETA truly is the mortal enemy of dogs and cats. They promote outdated caricatures of no-kill animal sheltering and advocate for the extermination of feral cats.

With the existence of so many good organizations such as Farm Sanctuary and the ASPCA, there is no way I would give my hard-earned money to PETA, ever.
post #47 of 47
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Originally Posted by Catkiki

I don't like it that they force their views down people's throat. God created man to have dominion over the animals, not the other way around. I eat meat and no one has the right to tell me I can't. And as for feeding my cats a vegan diet?? No way! Cats are meat eaters!! In the old days, people trapped beaver, fox and other animals for their fur. People would have frozen to death if they didn't have furs to keep them warm.
Parents have dominion over their children and national leaders have dominion over their citizens. God has dominion over every one of His creatures. Does that give them the right to treat them any old way they want, including torturing them and killing them just to serve their aesthetic and sensual pleasures?

Dominion means power, but power means far more in the way of responsibility than it does rights. Otherwise it's not dominion, it's tyranny. God gave us dominion over the animals. God did not give us tyranny over them. There's a huge, huge difference.

Furthermore, for all the differences between animals and humans, we are all creatures of the same God. We are arrogant to believe that we are somehow so special that we do not have an obligation to respect our fellow creatures. God created them with the same capacity to feel pain as any one of us.

And as to the fur point, there is a huge difference between wearing fur because it is the only way to stay warm and wearing fur because it is a status symbol. Unless someone lives in the frozen tundra of Siberia and have no access to a clothing store, wearing fur is absolutely unnecessary. There is no reason whatsoever why a person living in a developed country would ever have to wear fur. It is worn 100% as a status symbol. We have many, many other options available to us that keep us just as warm. To cause another creature to suffer a painful, horrible death just so you can look fashionable by wearing his or her skin is selfish, pure and simple.
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