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Victoria's Secret rant. (Rated M for Mature)

post #1 of 37
1/22/06 at 8:16pm
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You have been warned! I would suggest 18 + years people as this deals with some potential stuff for those that I don't want to be scolded by their mothers for.

OK. I haven't been to Victoria's Secrets web site in a while. Heck I haven't been in their store (and please again, if you're under 18, please get parents permission before going to this web site...I don't want to make TCS look bad because of my rant).

I go to their site tonight to see what's left of the semi-annual sale since I have a little money (and need some bras and such). Well I get surf happy thru their web site and come across their perfumes & body sprays.
Some of their perfumes...well at first I started laughing. Then I began thinking: WHY?!?! It's their line of "you can smell like your favorite drink", so they have perfumes scented for "mojito", "pina colada", "Kamakazi", "Cosmopolitan", etc.

As much as I like many of the drinks and how they can smell really fruity and sweet...imagine though you're out on your first date with this REALLY great guy. And well, you put on your very best Demeter Gin & Tonic cologne. You're the type of woman that just sprays the perfume all over the bathroom, dances in it and in the end you've showered yourself in Gin & Tonic scent. The guy shows up, you two go out. If I were a guy, I would immediately think you're an alcoholic as you showed up to the date smelling (or if you over did the perfume - reaking of) alcoholic drink. Well I guess if I were on the date for one thing only, then I guess I could see the purpose.

I don't know...VS is really doing something weird with their image lately. I use to think they were upscale...now I think they're looking out for the...um...err...will just leave that part off.

Please don't get me wrong, I love VS, I own a lot of VS...but just some of the things they sell it's like, "Just incase our Miracle Bra that gives you a cup and a piece of string we'll call underwear doesn't do the job...here...smell like an alcoholic drink." Could it be for recovering alcoholics that are still on the bar scene?

The world may never know...

I apologize in advance if I have offended everyone. I've read and reread this to make sure it's as politically correct and also suitable for the occassional teen that might enter. If any bit is offensive (as I know this is kind of a borderline topic), please run immediately away and pretend like you never saw this thread...
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post #2 of 37
1/22/06 at 8:35pm
actully their perfumes smell very good. Pina Colada is just the name of the sent, and you're not going to smell like you've been drinking
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post #3 of 37
1/22/06 at 8:38pm
I agree with you.... a bit off topic but I think still relevant is my s/o's story (yes, a guy in Victoria's *gasp*!!!! )

He was in there with some friends (girls) picked up some stringy underwear and asked "Where's the secret?" This cracks me up everytime.

I agree with the image thing. I would much rather have classy lingerie than something that is almost nothing.

And I think the topic is funny
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post #4 of 37
1/22/06 at 10:31pm
We don't have VS retail stores here in Canada (just mail order), but I can't shop at the chain lingerie stores anyway because I wear a DD38, and well, a couple of tiny straps holding the contraption together just don't cut it.

As for the alcoholic drink thing, some drinks I like are called Screwdriver and Brown Cow. Wouldn't it be interesting then to tell your date the scent you're wearing. The stranger the name the better. Gee, I feel like smelling like a Rusty Nail tonight.
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post #5 of 37
1/23/06 at 8:08am
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Originally Posted by eburgess
actully their perfumes smell very good. Pina Colada is just the name of the sent, and you're not going to smell like you've been drinking
I could see Pina Colada being decent. But one of their drinks (Between the Sheets) said that it had the scent of rum added to it.
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post #6 of 37
1/23/06 at 8:15am
I was just thinking about this....And just to add to the people thinking your an alcoholic.....What happens if a cop pulls you over....that certainly may not go well.....
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post #7 of 37
1/23/06 at 8:22am
You will probably need to actually smell the different scents before forming your opinion.... That's one downside to online shopping I didn't think they smelled bad... I just spent more than I should at the semi annual sale last week. I stocked up on my favorite scent, Strawberries and Champagne.

As far as their lingerie not being classy anymore... Just because you have a skimpy little thong, it doesn't mean it's not classy. I actually made that comment to my fiance the other night after I was there shopping. I bought a few pairs of panties, and yes I like the small ones, and I was commenting on how much classier the panties were there as opposed to Fredericks. VS panties and bras are prettier and classier, where Fredericks is more "naughty".
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post #8 of 37
1/23/06 at 8:42am
I just wish we had VS in Canada, I was hoping there'd be one Toronto. sigh. Oh well it's just as well, I spend waaay to much on lingerie as it is. I think I keep my local La Senza store in business. As my husband always complains how many bras do I need?
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post #9 of 37
1/23/06 at 9:05am
I wear Demeter's Gin and Tonic, and don't think it smells like alcohol at all. It has the juniper note of of gin, but you can get lots of other juniper-scented products. I think that one reason drinks such as pina coladas or cosmos are so popular is because of the way they smell, minus the alcohol. That's what the perfume makers are banking on.
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post #10 of 37
1/23/06 at 9:40am
Based on the M rating and the warning I thought this thread would be a lot spicier than it is.
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post #11 of 37
1/23/06 at 9:46am
As Vespacat stated I too cannot shop much at VS as I need a sturdy contraption to keep the girls intact. I do have some of their more casual pjs.
BUT this is a true story. Several yrs ago DH would spend one night Christmas shopping to two other male friends (more like 30 minutes at the mall and 2 hrs sitting in a bar) Anyhow I got a VS gift-flannel long sleeves pj's. They had pearls on them and where pink!!! How do you respond to that???
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post #12 of 37
1/23/06 at 10:16am
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Originally Posted by Rockcat
Based on the M rating and the warning I thought this thread would be a lot spicier than it is.
I just wanted to cover my ground, just incase!! I didn't want someone under 18 being caught by their mom browsing around on VS's site for alcoholic perfumes

okeefecl - hmm..I think I might have to stop by there now. I mean, I could see the fruity smelling drinks being fine to wear, but just the stuff like gin & tonic I began to think "how can you make it smell like you haven't been drinking???".
Plus again I was thinking of the udner 18 crowd, as how do you come home wearing these scents and explain to your parents how you haven't been drinking?

squirtle - I think during part of my rant I got a little carried away. VS is DEFINITLY above Lover's Lane, Frederick's and Priscilla's in class. I do miss when they put the names of the lines on the tags...I always knew what to look for when I went in there.
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post #13 of 37
1/23/06 at 10:29am
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Originally Posted by lunasmom
I do miss when they put the names of the lines on the tags...I always knew what to look for when I went in there.
They still do that. The ones I just bought are from the "Sexy Little Things" line, and that is written on the tag. That is very helpful when shopping, especially since I am always wearing low rise pants and need to make sure my panties aren't showing when I sit down (I hate that!). I believe all of the ones in this line are very low cut, so I know what to buy the next time I shop.
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post #14 of 37
1/23/06 at 10:46am
I won't be able to shop at Victoria's Secret until they add a department called "Supersize Me!" roflmao
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post #15 of 37
1/23/06 at 12:27pm
I HAVE noticed that VS is going the way of what we here at my apartment call "W**re Island"

I have just a little too much self respect to put myself in some of those nighties...
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post #16 of 37
1/23/06 at 12:30pm
I have a confession to make. I've never been to a Victorias Secrets. Theres one at the mall, but then I'll have to go to THE MALL.
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post #17 of 37
1/23/06 at 12:31pm
I own NOTHING from there. i used to by mine from Goody's but they quit carring it so now i dont know where to go. VS is too expensive fore me, i have a very tight budget.
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post #18 of 37
1/23/06 at 12:44pm
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Originally Posted by lionessrampant
I HAVE noticed that VS is going the way of what we here at my apartment call "W**re Island"

I have just a little too much self respect to put myself in some of those nighties...

Wow, that's a little bit harsh...

I hope your not implying that people who wear "those nighties" from VS have no self respect, or that wearing things like that classifies you as being one who gets around. Because I can assure you that is not the case at all.
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post #19 of 37
1/23/06 at 12:46pm
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Originally Posted by squirtle
They still do that. The ones I just bought are from the "Sexy Little Things" line, and that is written on the tag. That is very helpful when shopping, especially since I am always wearing low rise pants and need to make sure my panties aren't showing when I sit down (I hate that!). I believe all of the ones in this line are very low cut, so I know what to buy the next time I shop.
REALLY?! The last time I bought from there, I have no clue which line its from. The only line I know of is either the Pink line, Body, Angels, and the French stuff (which I LOVE but is WAY too expensive).

Phenomsmom, try eBay for VS stuff. You can usually get it for a decent price. I've gotten a couple of bras and panties through there. Plus there's a seller on there that will do $2 shipping for the first item and 50 cents more for each additional. At least she use to ...not sure if its gone up or not.
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post #20 of 37
1/23/06 at 12:50pm
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Originally Posted by squirtle
Wow, that's a little bit harsh...

I hope your not implying that people who wear "those nighties" from VS have no self respect, or that wearing things like that classifies you as being one who gets around. Because I can assure you that is not the case at all.
No, not ALL of the nighties...I was simply trying to point out that they've gotten way more extreme in certain lines and styles recently. I don't want to incriminate all of the people who wear them...but there are certainly those who fit the mold that are being catered to.

No, I purchase all of my thngs and panties and bras from there...I even own an old nightie from there...but some of the stuff they have now...whoa.
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post #21 of 37
1/23/06 at 12:52pm
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Originally Posted by lionessrampant
No, not ALL of the nighties...I was simply trying to point out that they've gotten way more extreme in certain lines and styles recently. I don't want to incriminate all of the people who wear them...but there are certainly those who fit the mold that are being catered to.

No, I purchase all of my thngs and panties and bras from there...I even own an old nightie from there...but some of the stuff they have now...whoa.
I see the other side of that though... What about married or attached women who wantto buy something special for a night with their S/O? If I want to buy something special that's where I would go..
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post #22 of 37
1/23/06 at 1:02pm
At Christmastime I went to VS to buy a gift for a friend (she loves their scented body creams and sprays) and was rather surprised at the sleaziness (for lack of a better word) of some of the displays. I really don't want to go into a store and have a mannequin's panty-covered crotch in my face.

I think that VS is going a little more over the top, but its a direction they've taken since their fashion shows have been televised on national TV during the normal evening viewing hours. As we know, sex sells.
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post #23 of 37
1/23/06 at 1:07pm
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Originally Posted by squirtle
I see the other side of that though... What about married or attached women who wantto buy something special for a night with their S/O? If I want to buy something special that's where I would go..
But it just seems like it sort of encourages younger people, you know? I mean, I see how my peers dress (and have dressed since we were in even junior high)...and it seems like VS is moving in that direction for young women, not particulary to cater to married women. I don't have a single problem in the world with married or seriously attached people who are otherwise in secure and extremely mature relationships doing what pleases them...but I think that the company is trying to spin theemselves in such a way as to draw in younger, "sexier" crowds who may be too young or immature to know better.
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post #24 of 37
1/23/06 at 1:31pm
Hmm well I guess I am of the type of mind who thinks. we all know what VS is..we all know its always been...under garmets...why so shocked? sex does sell. And to keep up with the times, and stay in their buisness of making money they have to go along with it. but thats IMO. when i have the extra money i get from VS which is not often. And will proudly admit i own many of the seemed in this thread deamed. "sleezier" Fredricks. and i dont see myself as any less classy for it either. only one person sees the stuff anyways. aside from myself.

As for the perfumes. they dont smell like booze IMO. they just have the fruity, or like someone mentioned Juniper scent associated with the drink, minus the over powering booze smell. my friend wheres strawberries and champage, and demeters gin and tonic, and no one has accused of of being an Alchololic.
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post #25 of 37
1/23/06 at 1:55pm
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Originally Posted by okeefecl
At Christmastime I went to VS to buy a gift for a friend (she loves their scented body creams and sprays) and was rather surprised at the sleaziness (for lack of a better word) of some of the displays.
I don't mind going into the stores...we all have the same body parts, and I would prefer a mannequin's crotch in my face rather than an actual human.

But the part that cracks me up the most are the business outfits in the catalogues. They are really nice outfits and can be worn to work, however again they're selling it based on sex. Like if you flip through the clothing catalogue, in the business section, IMO it doesn't say I'm smart and sexy on the job, it more says "Every coworker will want to sleep with me when I wear this to work...and I just might"
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post #26 of 37
1/23/06 at 2:18pm
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Originally Posted by lunasmom
Like if you flip through the clothing catalogue, in the business section, IMO it doesn't say I'm smart and sexy on the job, it more says "Every coworker will want to sleep with me when I wear this to work...and I just might"
I don't get that from their catalog... I think that some people do feel "sexier" wearing VS. I myself feel sexy if I am wearing a nice bra and panties to work or when going out. It doesn't mean I am sleeping with anyone there... No one is going to see it until I get home. I have always thought that most women like to wear special things. I have the same feeling when I wear a new outfit that I know looks great. I feel good in it, and in some cases feel more confident.
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post #27 of 37
1/23/06 at 3:40pm
I've smelled the scents that are based on cocktails, and they don't smell alcohol-y at all...except for the body sprays, which use alcohol to ensure fast evaporation of the liquid base. Even those smell fine once the alcohol has evaporated. Most of them are too fruity or flowery for my taste, though.

As for Victoria's clothes....
There's nothing wrong with a thong. And their bras are the most comfortable I've found. I'm kind of bwtween sizes and they're the only ones that fit me right. Almost everything in my underwear drawer is from there. Comfortable stuff, but also very pretty. The "slut-wear" is nice, too. It's not trashy, but it's just racey enough to be gooooood.
Besides, it's just underwear. We all wear it in some fashion or another. And the manequins are just plastic replicas of human bodies. If you're in that store, you've seen a woman's body. We Americans really need to get over our nudity/sex hang-up.

Their regular clothes are really nice, too. The VS Catalogue is about the only place I can find with 34" inseam dress pants at a decent price.
Of course they have gorgeous sexy women modeling the clothes. They are there make the clothes look good, not the other way around. Besides, that catalogue is made in part for men who are shopping for their girlfriends/wives, and most men likey the VS models, who aren't as scrawny as runway models.
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post #28 of 37
1/23/06 at 3:57pm
I hate the idea that the sort of underwear you choose to wear reflects on your morals!

I hope this doesnt offend anyone, but a Muslim friend told me that they all wear really naughty stuff under their gowns! And having seen a group of Muslim women shopping in Ann Summer's, can well believe it.
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post #29 of 37
1/23/06 at 6:35pm
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Originally Posted by maverick_kitten
I hate the idea that the sort of underwear you choose to wear reflects on your morals!

I hope this doesnt offend anyone, but a Muslim friend told me that they all wear really naughty stuff under their gowns! And having seen a group of Muslim women shopping in Ann Summer's, can well believe it.
I can believe that about Muslim women. They wear different clothing, but they're still women, and we all like to feel pretty (whether we'll admit it or not, hehe), especially with our significant others. Muslim women also get their hair done, but the only person who sees it is her husband. Same principle, slightly different application.
Unless you're a Victoria's Secret model, the only people seeing your undies are you and your S.O., and who the heck else should care? If you wear a thong, or granny panties, or nothing at all under your clothes, no one should care.
They're called UNDERWEAR for a reason. hehe
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post #30 of 37
1/23/06 at 7:26pm
Ok, so I'm going to be a minority here, but I shop Fredericks, not VS. It's very frustrating to be 23 and not be able to find an attractive bra! Fredericks has bras that are attractive, and don't make ya pointy! As for their panties, sure I can wear VSs but I'm not one to go in just for that. If they can't make my top, well I'm not buying their bottoms! Sure Fredericks has some more 'naughty' things, but I don't think that implies any more trashiness than VS.
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