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The latest craze in this small town

post #1 of 42
1/13/06 at 8:40pm
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for the teenagers is to take 21 shots of different alchohols and combine them in one and drink it down. They call it the "fatal shot"
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post #2 of 42
1/13/06 at 10:06pm
I've heard of people doing this for their 21st birthday. It's hard to think of anything more stupid.
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post #3 of 42
1/13/06 at 10:25pm
Stuff like that has always gone on. Some of the things we used to drink when I played rugby was scary
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post #4 of 42
1/13/06 at 10:27pm
I forsee an epidemic of alcohol poisoning.
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post #5 of 42
1/13/06 at 10:34pm
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Kids are dying from it, but still they do it.

You know, we did stupid things too, toilet papering favorite teacher's houses, pulling one teacher's porsche up the stairs to the top of the roof- but never anything so fatally stupid
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post #6 of 42
1/14/06 at 2:49am
my friends tried to get me to do it on my 21st bday...i said no way i dotn see the point of getting trashed or dead
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post #7 of 42
1/14/06 at 8:25am
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Originally Posted by hissy
Kids are dying from it, but still they do it.

You know, we did stupid things too, toilet papering favorite teacher's houses, pulling one teacher's porsche up the stairs to the top of the roof- but never anything so fatally stupid
Yup. There's stupid, and then there's stupid. Teenagers (and very young adults) often think nothing will ever happen to them, though, and so they take incredible risks. In our area, hill-topping has led to more than one teen funeral.
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post #8 of 42
1/14/06 at 8:49am
Oh thats scary.
I am ashamed to say that this past Valentines day I did something stupid.
I was busy all day and didnt have time to eat.
So once we closed the restaurant in the night we had a party. (We party for any reason)
Anyways, I ate something and then decided I was gonna try this new drink that everyone had. It was a glow in the dark drink. That should have told me right there. And I can still count on one hand how many times I have drank alcohol.
so I tried it. And LOVED it. It was called "Where dreams go to die". The name in itself was scary but I kept on. I was so sick. I was sick at the party. I was sick once we got home and I was sick all through the night. I didnt have that much food in my body but what was coming up was bile (I believe thats how its spelled). I knew thats what it was because I had my gall bladder removed for gall stones.
I felt like I was dying and I only had 2!!
These kids just dont realize!!!
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post #9 of 42
1/14/06 at 10:27am
The "21 shots" thing is just dumb. I never heard of it when I was in college, and I knew a lot of people who put away a LOT of alcohol. I just graduated 5 years ago, so it's not I was in school "way back when" or anything.

The forbidden is always a big draw. What do we tell kids? You can't drink. And what do they do? They drink to excess. Maybe if we tell them they can have a few beers or a couple of cocktails or a glass of wine because that isn't a leathal dose (but you still shouldn't drive), they won't feel the need to go out and experiment.
I don't recall anyone ever saying to me that a few drinks was okay but not to over-do it, nor do I recall being told how to judge if I'd had too much, or that it takes a while for a little buzz to kick in, or that I could actually die from alcohol poisoning if I drank too much.
Maybe if we teach kids that a couple drinks are okay, when to cut yourself off, and what can happen to you when you go WAY overboard, stuff like this wouldn't happen.
JMO.
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post #10 of 42
1/14/06 at 10:36am
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Originally Posted by evnshawn
Yup. There's stupid, and then there's stupid. Teenagers (and very young adults) often think nothing will ever happen to them, though, and so they take incredible risks. In our area, hill-topping has led to more than one teen funeral.
Hill-topping? I hate to ask, but what is that?
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post #11 of 42
1/14/06 at 12:19pm
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Originally Posted by hissy
Hill-topping? I hate to ask, but what is that?
It's when you drive over hills going very fast so that you launch your car into the air at the crest of the hill. Usually it's done with the car full of friends. The problem, of course, is that the kids crash or lose control of the vehicle. In 2000, my husband's youngest sister, who was 15 at the time, lost two friends to a hill-topping accident.
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post #12 of 42
1/14/06 at 12:24pm
I remember being young though and the drink to do was 3 Wise Men (Jim Beam, Jack Daniels and whatever the 3rd whiskey guy-named drink was). I barely did straight liquor at the time.
I'm not sure though...I did a lot of stupid stuff when I was young because "it was against the law" or "I wasn't suppose to". As I got older and drinking became legal, I got really bored of it. I'm aware of the damage that it can cause teens brains (since they aren't fully developed until 21/22), but I still hold the argument:
Why can the army recruit at the age of 18 (17 if there's a draft) and send 18-20 year olds over to the war to be killed, and yet they have to wait til 21 to drink because it can cause damage? I'd say let's have the kids wait to join the army when they're 21.
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post #13 of 42
1/14/06 at 12:30pm
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Oh gosh, that hill-topping sounds really stupid and dangerous.
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post #14 of 42
1/14/06 at 12:44pm
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Originally Posted by Zoe'n'MissKitty
The "21 shots" thing is just dumb. I never heard of it when I was in college, and I knew a lot of people who put away a LOT of alcohol. I just graduated 5 years ago, so it's not I was in school "way back when" or anything.

The forbidden is always a big draw. What do we tell kids? You can't drink. And what do they do? They drink to excess. Maybe if we tell them they can have a few beers or a couple of cocktails or a glass of wine because that isn't a leathal dose (but you still shouldn't drive), they won't feel the need to go out and experiment.
I don't recall anyone ever saying to me that a few drinks was okay but not to over-do it, nor do I recall being told how to judge if I'd had too much, or that it takes a while for a little buzz to kick in, or that I could actually die from alcohol poisoning if I drank too much.
Maybe if we teach kids that a couple drinks are okay, when to cut yourself off, and what can happen to you when you go WAY overboard, stuff like this wouldn't happen.
JMO.
You know, that's a really good point. I remember when I was in high school one of the foreign exchange students we had in my sophomore year (from Italy) didn't understand why drinking was such a big deal. Or rather, he was of the opinion that if the US was like Italy, where moderate drinking is a part of life from a young age, then teens likely wouldn't get such a big thrill out of drinking.

I doubt we will let our kids (when we have them) drink until the legal age, but I'll make it clear to them that that is out of respect for the law and that regardless of your age, there are smart ways to drink and stupid ways to drink.
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post #15 of 42
1/14/06 at 1:32pm
I'm not so sure that reducing the drinking age would help. German teenagers can legally consume/buy beer and wine at 16, and the "hard stuff" at 18, but there has been a tremendous increase in "binge drinking", alcohol poisoning, and traffic fatalities due to DUI over the past few years. Now the government is thinking of drastically raising taxes on alcohol in an attempt to discourage young people from drinking. It has already done so in the case of "alcopops", with some success.
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post #16 of 42
1/14/06 at 1:39pm
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Originally Posted by jcat
I'm not so sure that reducing the drinking age would help. German teenagers can legally consume/buy beer and wine at 16, and the "hard stuff" at 18, but there has been a tremendous increase in "binge drinking", alcohol poisoning, and traffic fatalities due to DUI over the past few years. Now the government is thinking of drastically raising taxes on alcohol in an attempt to discourage young people from drinking. It has already done so in the case of "alcopops", with some success.
Yeah, I think reducing the drinking age to 16 would pretty much be a disaster. If you're going for an "early exposure" solution, kids would have to grow up in an atmosphere where having a glass of wine with dinner was a normal thing, nothing special, so that you hopefully wouldn't have the problem where all of a sudden as teenagers they 1) want to rebel and 2) suddenly have access to large amounts of alcohol at parties and such and so 3) combine the rebelling with the alcohol.
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post #17 of 42
1/14/06 at 2:55pm
Every single one of my friends who had a parent who allowed them to drink drank irresponsibly and most of them continue to do so. I wouldn't allow my kid to drink anything because of this. Kids just can't handle it. I just can't imagine why anyone would think taking 21 shots of alcohol would be a good idea! I knew some people who claimed to have done it and others who weren't able to finish it- most of these kids got alcohol poisoning and they didn't even succeed.
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post #18 of 42
1/16/06 at 12:14am
Good Lord. That reminds me of a cocktail we have here called a Flaming Lamborghini. It is lethal and many places won't serve it anymore because it is so dangerous. I shared one with a friend once - the idea is that you have to drink it all down in one go, after the bartender has set fire to the alcohol and then once you get to the bottom they pour extra shots of alcohol in to put the flames out, which you drink up as well.

I don't have any memories of the night that I had that one - and I only had half. Kids just think it's cool to get as hammered as possible, and often just don't realise the damage they're doing to themselves.
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post #19 of 42
1/16/06 at 12:48am
When we are young, we just don't realize or think about what the consequences of our actions will be. I remember doing some stupid stuff...but even mild compared to things I hear others doing. Wow I'm glad I'm not young and stupid anymore.
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post #20 of 42
1/16/06 at 10:44am
Kids have always done dumb things...like passing each other out (the asphyxiation craze that has been around forever), using white out or dust off or PAM or whatever to get high..

I vividly remember the 21 shot thing when I was that age, but in Canada, it tends to be the "18" or "19" thing as this is the legal drinking age here...

They passed a law in my Province last year regulating a minimum on shot prices (due to a young man dying from alcohol poisoning) Whereas they used to sell them for a buck and a half or something, the minimum price is now $2.25 or something for a shot. THe logic behind this stupid law is that kids won't want to spend the extra money on more shots....
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post #21 of 42
1/16/06 at 4:20pm
I was allowed to have a drink under my parents roof. I never really cared much..and i still dont. Liqour isnt that appealing.
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post #22 of 42
1/17/06 at 9:32am
Yeah it may sound stupid, but if you have to stay smart and know when you've had enough, you'll be fine. Your friends should be able to stop you if you continue to go on, at least my friends do.

I tried the 21 shots before... I only got to 8, but that's what happens when you chase it with a long island
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post #23 of 42
1/17/06 at 9:34am
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Originally Posted by Loveysmummy
Kids have always done dumb things...like passing each other out (the asphyxiation craze that has been around forever)

Honestly I never heard of that until I saw it on Prime Time Live.
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post #24 of 42
1/17/06 at 9:38am
These kids arent thinking about the consequenses. All their friends did it or are doing it and they want to be cool. Its a terrible thing!
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post #25 of 42
1/17/06 at 9:40am
16 oh my gosh, I can't imagne the stupied 16 yr olds here in the US, just trying to keep them safe from there selves and the way they might think sober wow, I hate to see them at 16 being able to buy that stuff. So many teens here wind up dead from drinking & driving, or street racing, they bearly know how to drive let alone going as fast as they do...
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post #26 of 42
1/17/06 at 9:41am
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Originally Posted by Phenomsmom
These kids arent thinking about the consequenses. All their friends did it or are doing it and they want to be cool. Its a terrible thing!

That's true but what's really sad is even going to a friends funeral doen't teach them anything..
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post #27 of 42
1/17/06 at 10:02am
Honestly, my parents raised me allowing for some experimentation with alcohol, and it served me realy well. they let me have a beer in the house from the age of 12, or ONE shot (like ajack and coke) or one cordial, or one glass of wine. When I turned 16, they got me a beautiful muscadine that was called Elysium, and I savoured every drop of it.

When I would go to parties when I was older (but still under or just turned 21) I had a few parties where I drank too much just because I could, but I didn't do anything more foolish than cause myself to projectile vomit a spinach salad in the bathroom sink (only once). It didn't have the effect on me, because I'd been drinking a regulated amount before I was exposed to it at parties.

That said I was almost always the one handing around blankets and buckets and taking the others to the hospital when they DID do stupid things.
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post #28 of 42
1/17/06 at 12:35pm
I was allowed to have wine at resturants from my teens on special occsaisions but I used to hat the taste, and my Dad would say one day you will appreciate this when you are older. He is right I love wine now but still only drink it on special occiasions.
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post #29 of 42
1/17/06 at 12:39pm
My parents were much the same as Denise's. Drinking wasn't a big deal. I really didn't drink all that much when I was in high school. College...well, I have never made friends easily and the ones I made my freshman year were partiers. So yeah, I did my fair share of stupid stuff. But I guess I was at least a little smarter than the rest of them - I'm the only one who graduated (one other girl in my group of "friends" made it two years, the rest either dropped out or were asked not to return after one year or less).
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post #30 of 42
1/17/06 at 12:44pm
It's interesting if you look at stats for the the rest of the world (particularly Germany, where kids can drink wine and beer at 16 and then not drive until 18) versus the U.S., which has several of these backwards, puritanical laws still in effect. We have the highest rates of alcoholism, drunk driving deaths, alcohol poisoning deaths, teen pregnancies, etc.

So I guess what I'm wondering is...what if we gave these kids an inch or two? What if we weren't so uptight about sex and drinking and things like that and just let them have at it in mature and responsible (and relatively small) doses? I think kids are potentially more responsible than most adults give them credit for. If we stopped babying these kids and expected more from them on ALL fronts of life, therefore giving them more priveledge...then what would happen?
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