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post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
Has anyone seen this documentary?

Although the footage of the kodiaks and grizzlies are remarkable, the man behind the camera forgot the cardinal rule with it comes to Alaska Grizzlies, you have to respect them and you have to fear them or you will not survive.
post #2 of 26
So if he forgot the rule, does that mean he paid by not surviving? I didn't see that documentary. It would get my attention if I stumbled upon it though.
post #3 of 26
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Yes he paid for his vision with his life. But in the meantime he had foxes for pets and swam in the rivers right next to the bears. Pretty incredible
post #4 of 26
Wow. Scary. So how far into his documentary did he get?
post #5 of 26
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It's his life they show it until right up at the end in the grizzly maze where he met his destiny. he and another that is kept nameless throughout the film. I remember when he was in Alaska people talked about him in a way that reminded you of padded walls and straight jackets. After seeing the film I can understand why they talked that way. But it is a compelling movie to watch.
post #6 of 26
I haven't seen the documentary, but for some reason bears terrify me. Everytime I see one on TV I have nightmares about grizzlies trying to kill me and get into my house. Weird huh??
post #7 of 26
yeah, but he was doing that for years before he got killed........
he had wild foxes up there that stayed with him when he was there, playing fetch and stuff...........and he "knew" those bears as much as you can actually can know a wild animal...........i think he just got too complacent.........
post #8 of 26
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Or during his life when he was in society and got into drugs it warped his brain. I just finished Dean Koontz's new book Forever Odd, and even he was moved in some way by the film because he mentions it in the book, without saying the name of it.
post #9 of 26
Did you see it on TV? I'd like to know what channel it was on.
post #10 of 26
i think he was on discovery or National Geographic a few times............
post #11 of 26
Thread Starter 
it's on DVD now
post #12 of 26
Sounds pretty remarkable.
post #13 of 26
I saw a trailer for that at our local arthouse cinema. I thin I'll go - it looks fascinating. I'd like a glimpse into his psyche, and to know what his mom felt about this. I understand they interview family members.
To live like that amongst the wild animals is pretty amazing, even though he was killed eventually.
post #14 of 26
I saw that. Thought it was very interesting! Maybe I'm the only one who picked this up, but I think his irratic behavior was due to manic/depression. I have a granddaughter who is bipolar, and has the same irratic behavior.
post #15 of 26
I saw it when it came out on DVD. In my mind, the movie was amazing and fascinating but somewhat disturbing. I am so glad they didn't show the final minutes before Timothy Treadwell's death. I was a little afraid they would play the tape recordings for more shock value but I'm so glad they didn't.

Right now I'm not quite sure how I view Timothy. He seemed to get caught up in a fantasy world where he was becoming one with the bears and reality didn't play a part. But, in the end, he died surrounded by the environment in which he loved and I'm sure he thought we was doing everything right. If the bears didn't kill him, I think at some point reality would.

I still get shivers everytime I think of that movie.
post #16 of 26
I've never heard of Grizzly Man. I also didn't notice the reference in Forever Odd, but probably wouldn't have caught it, considering I'm not familiar with the movie. It does sound interesting, though.
post #17 of 26
I haven't seen the movie.....YET.....but I will as soon as I find it. I do know enough about this Timothy Treadwell to know that he quite obviously had some misconceptions as to how a human being fits into a Kodiak Brown Bears habitat. As someone said earlier, he DID have a drug problem some years back and quite possibly this had some lasting effects on his thinking and reasoning abilities. The other person that was killed along with him was his girlfriend. In my opinion, the Brown Bear that killed him did nothing wrong, it was just doing what comes natural for a predator to do. I do hope to get to see the video soon, but knowing what I already do about Treadwell, I'm sure that it will only support my feelings about an individual that obviously liked to tempt the powers that be. I just feel sorry for that girls family (and her) for being sucked into the fantasy world that Timothy Treadwell lived......in.
post #18 of 26
Funny you asked, I was visiting a pet sitting pet and saw that they had rented this movie. I borrowed it because of your post, and I'm looking forward to watching it right now!
post #19 of 26
Ok, I just watched it and yeah, that guy is a little out there. But his heart is in the right place. I'm jealous that he got to have foxes all around him! Is it bad that I was more horrified by the dead animal scenes and the bear fight was too intense, than the human death stuff? The movie was creepy, just hours before his death and he's still rolling camera...creepy....
post #20 of 26
When this thread was first started I was interesting in seeing the movie. I was checking out the TV listings last night and saw that this was on Discovery. Since I found out about it when it was on, I set the VCR to tape it early this morning and watched it this afternoon. I've been thinking about it ever since.

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Originally Posted by Russian Blue
I saw it when it came out on DVD. In my mind, the movie was amazing and fascinating but somewhat disturbing. I am so glad they didn't show the final minutes before Timothy Treadwell's death. I was a little afraid they would play the tape recordings for more shock value but I'm so glad they didn't.

Right now I'm not quite sure how I view Timothy. He seemed to get caught up in a fantasy world where he was becoming one with the bears and reality didn't play a part. But, in the end, he died surrounded by the environment in which he loved and I'm sure he thought we was doing everything right. If the bears didn't kill him, I think at some point reality would.

I still get shivers everytime I think of that movie.
Kass summed up exactly what I've been feeling/thinking about it. I can't stop thinking about it, and how disturbing yet amazing it was. Thank you for starting this thread MA, I probably wouldn't have even watched it had I not heard about it from you and the others here. You piqued my curiosity and I'm glad I had the opportunity to watch it.
post #21 of 26
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Yes I saw it was on television last night- and thought about re-watching it but I just couldn't. The ending was to sad to sit through it again. Living in Alaska you have to respect the wildlife there. I watched a moose try and kill someone who got in front of her and her calf by accident (a tourist taking a photo). The moose ran the man back to his volkswagon and then rolled the car over and stomped all over it. It was pretty dreadful and amazing all at the same time. That's how I view the Timothy Treadwell video- amazing and dreadful-
post #22 of 26
It is recording on my dvr as I type. I caught part of it last night, but couldn't devote the three hours to watch it. I'm still not sure I'll be able to do it, but wanted to record it in case I do decide to watch.
post #23 of 26
sounds very interesting. what channel's it on?
post #24 of 26
I have mixed emotions about Timothy Treadwell, but I have to say that the movie was absolutely brilliant and incredibly well done. Everything from the interviews to the clips to the music was spot on. What I find wonderful about the movie (aside from the technicality of it) was that it showed both sides to the story, and didn't just play on Treadwell being "crazy" or being "perfect and visionary." He definitely was not the same as most people, but that's as far as I'm willing to go.

The director/producer did NOT include the sounds of the death of Treadwell and his girlfriend. His position was perfectly stated inasmuch as (paraphrasing) "there is dignity in everyone's death, and I will not be part of a snuff film. Including the tape would be unnecessary in the telling of his story." And for that, I have utter respect for Werner Kartzog (good grief, I'm not sure if that's his name), the director/producer.

Overall, a phenomenal film which allows you to enter Treadwell's life and the bears' environment...and learn a bit about both bears and oneself in the process.

Best-
Michele
post #25 of 26
I caught it on Discovery last night. I have to agree with the comment that he was manic/depressive. My brother was bi-polar and suicidal and I couldn't help but recognize the same behaviors in Timothy. It was terribly disturbing to me. I couldn't tell whether he was so insane that he didn't realize that he was really putting his life in danger or was simply suicidal. I got angry with him and while I wanted to turn it off, I was drawn to it kind of like how people gape at accidents.

My husband had the same reaction to the movie. Even though he is the type of person who would give up everything to help animals, he couldn't relate to the extremes that Timothy went thru. And this coming from a man who has lived in a cave, can start a fire from sticks, and lived off the land for a while.

It's 4:30 in the morning and I'm up because I was having weird dreams about beers tonight. The movie obviously had a profound effect on me because I'm afraid to go back to sleep until I shake the dreams off.
post #26 of 26
Yes!!! I saw that on Discovery Channel last night. I was fascinated by the scenery and footage that he got.

I'd have to agree that he was bi-polar. One of his friends mentioned that he was on medication to help with the extreme highs and lows, but after a few months he stopped taking the meds because he felt that it just wasn't who he was. That the only way for him to be himself was to have the extreme highs and lows.

I overall enjoyed it and can respect what he did for the bears. However they could have cut the part about him going off on the u.s. government rangers could've been shorten. I agree to put it in there, but not for so long.

From what I remember, him being killed was never caught on camera, just on mic. When the coronary mentioned the girlfriends screams getting louder during the final moments, my boyfriend pointed out that they were probably killed because her screaming aggitated the bear further. Really though they shouldn't have been in the woods at that time though. TT even mentioned that the regular bears that he's use to went into hibernation and the wilder ones were roaming the forest looking for food.
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