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post #1 of 18
1/13/06 at 4:51am
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http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17789670-2,00.html

The Chairperson of Qantas, an Australian airline, was frisked at LAX because the security guard didn't believe a woman could be the head of an airline.
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post #2 of 18
1/13/06 at 5:35am
That really ticks me off, especially in this day and age.
In fact I've really come to believe that at least in Michigan, its the age of the Business women. Of the majority of my friends, the females are the ones with the jobs, while our men are are struggling to find one. It could just be my small world, but right now most of the females I know have the better paying job than their counterparts.

And as much as I appreciate the airport security that was installed after 9/11, STILL...this guy has the $9/hr hour job for the obvious reason.

Wasn't it a couple of years ago that two guys toured the country to see how airport security acted if they went through with knifes in their carry-ons and other weapons that could indicate a hi-jack, but they really were just testing airport security? It seems like they went through the majority of the airports without a getting much grief.
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post #3 of 18
1/13/06 at 5:44am
I've got news for that moron: it's 2006, not 1956. Women can (and do!) do ANYTHING.
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post #4 of 18
1/13/06 at 6:14am
Hmm. I'm not totally sure that's how the whole thing went down, considering this quote that indicates Margaret Jackson likely has a talent for exaggeration (not to mention a hint of racial prejudice): "And I said, 'I'm the chairman of an airline. I'm the chairman of Qantas'. And this black guy, who was, like, eight foot tall*, said, 'But you're a woman'."

Plus, I would say if security personnel did not stop anyone, male or female, who was walking onto a plane with plane schematics, at least to make sure that person had a valid reason for carrying those schematics, that security guard would not be doing his or her job.

Also —and I admit this is a little nitpicky—she is not the chairman. That is an outdated term because it does, in fact, imply maleness. The correct term is chair. She is the chair of Qantas.

*Italics mine.
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post #5 of 18
1/13/06 at 6:34am
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I said chairperson in my initial post.
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post #6 of 18
1/13/06 at 6:37am
Thats the stupidest remark I've heard in a long time. Almost as silly as Christians shouldn't have cats!
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post #7 of 18
1/13/06 at 8:09am
I think the entire incident was over blown.
I have my doubts the guy even said that.
I get the feeling this woman is a bit of an "elitist" but that is just MO

If that is the worst thing that ever happens to her she will have a good life.
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post #8 of 18
1/13/06 at 11:00am
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Originally Posted by ckblv
I think the entire incident was over blown.
I have my doubts the guy even said that.
I get the feeling this woman is a bit of an "elitist" but that is just MO

If that is the worst thing that ever happens to her she will have a good life.
Why do you think she is an elitist and not believe the statement was made?
Where does that come from?

This was a recorded anecdote at a media press conference in front of many, many people as far as I read it.
But I am curious as to why you seem to immediately want her discredited?
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post #9 of 18
1/13/06 at 11:53am
I got the impression that she just felt she was to good to be stopped and searched.

My 82 year old mother has been stopped and searched so why shouldn't she? My mother did not feel that she was suspected of being a terrorist, she thought the airport personnel were doing their job. (Post 9-11 remember) And my mother did not even have drawings of an airplane with her. She is just a little old lady 5' 100 lbs and she had NO problems with being searched.

Even if he did say, "But you're a woman" big deal, I just don't think this is a big deal.
Why would he say that, as it is very apparent she is a woman I would think, unless she looks like a man.

I think the whole thing is unimportant and she is making a big deal out of nothing and the poor guy will probably lose his job.
People are always offended by something, that is life. I think people need to let little things go, but that is just me.
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post #10 of 18
1/13/06 at 12:09pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv
I got the impression that she just felt she was to good to be stopped and searched.

My 82 year old mother has been stopped and searched so why shouldn't she? My mother did not feel that she was suspected of being a terrorist, she thought the airport personnel were doing their job. (Post 9-11 remember) And my mother did not even have drawings of an airplane with her. She is just a little old lady 5' 100 lbs and she had NO problems with being searched.

Even if he did say, "But you're a woman" big deal, I just don't think this is a big deal.
Why would he say that, as it is very apparent she is a woman I would think, unless she looks like a man.

I think the whole thing is unimportant and she is making a big deal out of nothing and the poor guy will probably lose his job.
People are always offended by something, that is life. I think people need to let little things go, but that is just me.

I agree that there is no problem with her being searched.
But this isn't what she was objecting to.
She was simply answering his question about why she had all the airplane schematics with her.
What she was objecting to was his incredulity when she answered his question and then how long the search took BECAUSE of his disbelief.
Understandably, she was offended. But ,I would be too.
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post #11 of 18
1/13/06 at 12:23pm
And I think she totally over reacted because she WAS irritated that she got searched.

The title of the link says it all to me.
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post #12 of 18
1/13/06 at 12:29pm
I'm always happy to see that security is alive and well in our airports...however I wouldn't be surprized by her story. I used to ferry aircraft between Canada/US and they would 90% of the time let the male pilots through but when I came through they 100% of the time pulled me aside for further screening. Both myself and the male pilots were carrying the same things in our carry on's (maps, charts etc) but they never really bugged the guys. I was never humilitated in any type of strip search type of thing but they always took everything out of my carry on. It was just frustrating.
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post #13 of 18
1/13/06 at 2:27pm
My son often flies to visit his dad for the weekend, and he has been searched although he is just a teenager. One night, he was searched and wanded, as were the couple in front of us. I swear, this couple was at least 80 years old, and appeared to be from India. They were the smallest, nicest looking people. Their son walked them to the check point and helped his father put his jacket on!

I do not agree with profiling...but a little common sense would be nice!

I think it was rude if he searched her just for being female...but anything that brings up their radar should be looked at closely, and having the specs for an airplane is kind of fishy.
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post #14 of 18
1/13/06 at 4:53pm
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Originally Posted by Kumbulu
I said chairperson in my initial post.
Yeah, sorry, I should have been more clear. She referred to herself as "chairman."
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post #15 of 18
1/14/06 at 12:32am
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Originally Posted by Rockcat
Thats the stupidest remark I've heard in a long time. Almost as silly as Christians shouldn't have cats!

What. Who would say that, and why?
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post #16 of 18
1/14/06 at 12:46am
Oh. I have just read the post about this. How can some one twist things about so horribly.
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post #17 of 18
1/14/06 at 1:25am
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post #18 of 18
1/14/06 at 8:44am
It sounds like she was searched as part of normal security. Then the guy saw the schematics and asked appropriate questions. It's not like she was frisked just because she's a woman. Not that I have any doubt about such sexist BS occuring in this day and age. Him saying "but you're a woman" , well, I sincerely doubt that's the worse she's ever had to deal with in her climb up the corporate ladder! She sounds like she was recounting the incident as an amusing anecdote more than anything.

Seriously, interesting how she had to mention that he was black.
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