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post #31 of 45
First off, i applaud you for volunteering and making sure that molly ended up in a good home finally. I am however curious as to what the adoption agency you volunteer for requires of people that are interested in adopting an animal from them. Does your organization make people fill out a pre-adoption application? If not, it might be a wonderful idea- the organization i volunteered for did, and it really gave us excellent insight into who the people were and what home the kitty would potentially wind up in. If we approved the application- then we let them fill out the adoption forms and contracts. I'm attaching you a copy of what the pre-adoption application looks like below. Maybe that could help your organization come up with some new adoption guidelines and standards so that your organization hopefully won't have a repeat of the molly situation. Also, sometime, no matter what a good home you and your organization think the kitty is going to, sometimes it just doesn't happen like that because people lie....in that instance....some adoption organizations like the one i volunteered for have a clause in the bottom of the contract that we make the adoptors sign which says "they agree to comply with random house inspections to ensure the safety and wellbeing of the feline in it's new home"...the majority of the time, we never did, but when we did, we'd give 24-78 hrs notice if we had a feeling something wasn't right. I hope these suggestions give you some new ideas that could maybe help . Also, don't be afraid to turn people down if something just doesn't seem right- i have, and i later found out that in one instance imparticular, the woman was a horder who later wound up having over 200 cats taken from her! She was charged with animal cruelty.....It was one of those gut instincts i listened too- and thankfully, she didn't end up with one of our kitties....(although we wound up finding homes for 63 of the ones that she had horded after some rescue organizations contacted ours. When it comes down to it, you know what's best for the kitties at your rescue organization- and you have the right to turn down people who you don't think will take good care of them. Once again, i applaud you for volunteering and making such a wonderful difference in the lives of those kitties you help! I wish every cat had such wonderful love and attention given to them like your give to yours and the ones you help! Keep up the great work

Below is a link with the pre-adoption application we make all potential owners fill out before we aprove their application and allow them to fill out an adoption contract. I hope this helps
http://www.mewtopia.org/printable.htm
post #32 of 45
Stupid stupid stupid...........oh and did I mention STUPID?? That woman deserves no animals, probly not even a fish! What does she expect a cat/kitten to do? Just sleep and eat.....geesh, what an idiot! I applaud you for helping with the kitty(s). That is great!
post #33 of 45
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Originally Posted by StarryEyedTiGeR
First off, i applaud you for volunteering and making sure that molly ended up in a good home finally. I am however curious as to what the adoption agency you volunteer for requires of people that are interested in adopting an animal from them. Does your organization make people fill out a pre-adoption application? If not, it might be a wonderful idea- the organization i volunteered for did, and it really gave us excellent insight into who the people were and what home the kitty would potentially wind up in. If we approved the application- then we let them fill out the adoption forms and contracts. I'm attaching you a copy of what the pre-adoption application looks like below. Maybe that could help your organization come up with some new adoption guidelines and standards so that your organization hopefully won't have a repeat of the molly situation. Also, sometime, no matter what a good home you and your organization think the kitty is going to, sometimes it just doesn't happen like that because people lie....in that instance....some adoption organizations like the one i volunteered for have a clause in the bottom of the contract that we make the adoptors sign which says "they agree to comply with random house inspections to ensure the safety and wellbeing of the feline in it's new home"...the majority of the time, we never did, but when we did, we'd give 24-78 hrs notice if we had a feeling something wasn't right. I hope these suggestions give you some new ideas that could maybe help . Also, don't be afraid to turn people down if something just doesn't seem right- i have, and i later found out that in one instance imparticular, the woman was a horder who later wound up having over 200 cats taken from her! She was charged with animal cruelty.....It was one of those gut instincts i listened too- and thankfully, she didn't end up with one of our kitties....(although we wound up finding homes for 63 of the ones that she had horded after some rescue organizations contacted ours. When it comes down to it, you know what's best for the kitties at your rescue organization- and you have the right to turn down people who you don't think will take good care of them. Once again, i applaud you for volunteering and making such a wonderful difference in the lives of those kitties you help! I wish every cat had such wonderful love and attention given to them like your give to yours and the ones you help! Keep up the great work

Below is a link with the pre-adoption application we make all potential owners fill out before we aprove their application and allow them to fill out an adoption contract. I hope this helps
http://www.mewtopia.org/printable.htm
Our coordinator doesn't believe a pre-adoption questionnaire or home visits are necessary. She does prescreen potential adopters on the phone and asks that they spend at least an hour or two with the cat they're interested in. During that time, either she or one of the volunteers is with the adopter, asking questions casually, watching how they interact with the cat, etc...

Her feeling is that people can lie on an application and you get a much more open and honest feel for them by dealing with them one on one and seeing how they relate to the cats. She doesn't hesitate to turn people down. I think the problem in this case is that the woman claimed to have so much experience with cats and clearly didn't, at least not with kittens.

I'd really like to see us do more to screen adopters, so will definitely check out this link and see what I can do to convince our coordinator. Thanks for your advice and all that you do too!
post #34 of 45
Just for the record, saying a cat runs around too much and jumps on the furniture is like calling a doctors office and asking to return your chile because they are too loud and eat too much....

Yet another case of how stupidity never ceases to make me laugh.
post #35 of 45
I'm glad Molly found a happy home. That crazy lady! Poor little kitties!
post #36 of 45
I agree with what someone said earlier, a stuffed animal might be a better choice of pet for her
post #37 of 45
yet another little one in the hands of that :censored: person At least she returned the latest victim to you.... As for the adopting complications, unfortunately, IMO she will just adopt privately as many of those who refuse/don't bother to spay their cat are also just as ignorant/don't care about adopting out kittens.. Thank you for the update, Eilcon - I am praying that the newest kitten finds a wonderful home where loving care will erase all those sad memories
post #38 of 45
I think that woman & an adoptee from the HS I volunteer at got together & had a stupid convention!! The woman here returned a kitten after 6 weeks because he was "too playful & fun". She seriously said he was too fun!!!

Sorry to hijack your thread, but sometimes I just get so angry at these people! Hopefully, the latest victim of that woman will get a good home.
post #39 of 45
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Originally Posted by eilcon
Our coordinator doesn't believe a pre-adoption questionnaire or home visits are necessary. She does prescreen potential adopters on the phone and asks that they spend at least an hour or two with the cat they're interested in. During that time, either she or one of the volunteers is with the adopter, asking questions casually, watching how they interact with the cat, etc...

Her feeling is that people can lie on an application and you get a much more open and honest feel for them by dealing with them one on one and seeing how they relate to the cats. She doesn't hesitate to turn people down. I think the problem in this case is that the woman claimed to have so much experience with cats and clearly didn't, at least not with kittens.

I'd really like to see us do more to screen adopters, so will definitely check out this link and see what I can do to convince our coordinator. Thanks for your advice and all that you do too!
I'm glad you checked out the link. I hope it helps. I do however think your director should rethink a preadoption application- if it's neutral questions without any help it really can give you insight into a person. Yes they can lie, but in my experience...i've always found better homes for the kitties i foster when i do a preadoption application, not just an interview. Eithor way, i hope everything works out well and i applaud you for your dedication to volunteering! Those kitties are lucky to have you helping them
post #40 of 45
Um, what I don't get is, when will she realize that ALL kittens run around? Not just SOME kittens..DUH!
post #41 of 45
What a messed up situation, and to think she put two kittens through this. Then she declawed both of them. Someone needs to speak to this woman; she needs to buy a clue.

"You might want to consider adopting an older cat next time as all kittens run around and play and jump on everything--there is just nothing you can do about that and spanking them doesn't do any good and is actually considered cruel."

Something along those lines. Give me her phone number; I'll give her a call.
post #42 of 45
Thread Starter 
You're right. She needs to get a clue! What's really frustrating is that after her "issues" with the first kitten, we told her that an older cat, already declawed, would be a better match for her. She obviously didn't listen. I just hope she doesn't somehow get ahold of another kitten and put them through this.
post #43 of 45
Ahhh...but you forget! Old cats die! They aren't worth adopting because you don't get your money's worth like you would a kitten.
post #44 of 45
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Originally Posted by eilcon
You're right. She needs to get a clue! What's really frustrating is that after her "issues" with the first kitten, we told her that an older cat, already declawed, would be a better match for her. She obviously didn't listen. I just hope she doesn't somehow get ahold of another kitten and put them through this.
I hope so too - but I'm certain she will.
post #45 of 45
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Originally Posted by white cat lover
Ahhh...but you forget! Old cats die! They aren't worth adopting because you don't get your money's worth like you would a kitten.
It's such a shame that so many people actually believe that!
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