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post #1 of 14
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Well today it was time to take the black kitten tot he vet, so me and my dad woke up early to get her into the carrier. Well we got her in but before we could lock the door she ran out, into my garage. Now my garage is full of junk, walking space is limited, and there are many,many hiding spaces. Well after 5 hours of trying to catch the kitten, we took a long break and put food out and the trap. well she didnt go near the food, because she got herself trapped in a few dirty boxes, so we freed her, at this time she was severly stressed and her face had cuts, but not life threatning. So after realizing it would be impossible to catch her, I just opened the garage door and let her free. If she was in my house we would have easily got her, and plus my room is safe and clean, so she would ahve gone to the food right away. But since my parents did not let me bring her in, for fear of my 2 cats getting sick, well now the kitten will never have a home or be spayed. An hour after being free 2 male cats were chasing her, i guess trying to mate. They left and the kitten ate the food I left out, she needs it to get her strength back, so I gave extra food. Surprisingly, she came up to my back door and meowed for me to feed her, so I guess she's not mad at me, she really is a nice kitten, not feral at all. Well my parents dont want me trapping any cats, so who knows if any one of the 3 will be fixed. My efforts just seem like a waste now. If I cant I will have to give my 3 certificates away.
post #2 of 14
I understand your frustration, but please don't give up! This kitty may need you now more than ever. It would bother you for years to come if you just gave up. Trust me, I know. If she is being chased by males, she may become very frightened and turn to you for help. I am sure some of the TCS members that know more than I do about catching cats will be along to give you good advice. Good luck, and please keep us posted.
post #3 of 14
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I want to catch all 3, but my parents said NO, and they took away all the cages.
post #4 of 14
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Originally Posted by keith p
I want to catch all 3, but my parents said NO, and they took away all the cages.
Keith....I thought you were working with Leesali. I would ask if she can help with trapping. If you cannot trap, then you need to stop feeding these cats. It isn't fair to encourage them to come by and then possibly become pregnant. Perhaps they will go off to someone who can trap and get them fixed. That is what is best for them.

Katie
post #5 of 14
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Originally Posted by keith p
Well today it was time to take the black kitten tot he vet, so me and my dad woke up early to get her into the carrier.
If you do manage to trap this kitten again you should leave the kitten in the humane trap instead of trying to transfer it from a trap to a cage to a carrier. The vet will actually be able to sedate the kitten from inside of the trap..which they cannot do in a carrier. At our clinic...we require all cats/kittens be brought in the humane trap they were trapped in.

Katie
post #6 of 14
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The place here wants them in a carrier... Leesali was helping, but if I cant get any fixed she said she wont take them.
post #7 of 14
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Originally Posted by keith p
The place here wants them in a carrier... Leesali was helping, but if I cant get any fixed she said she wont take them.
Keith...it sounds like you are in a lose/lose situation...so I would stop feeding these cats...if you cannot trap them to get them spayed....then they need to move on.

Katie
post #8 of 14
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Originally Posted by keith p
The place here wants them in a carrier... Leesali was helping, but if I cant get any fixed she said she wont take them.

I am surprised that your vet. wants the cats/kittens in a carrier...most vets. will ONLY take them in a trap. It may sound harsh but once trapped, the cat/kitten should stay in the trap the entire time until release. We usually use shredded newspaper in the trap and a small bowl of water/food.

Also...it is not that the Humane Society doesn't take cats/kittens that aren't spayed/neutered...it is more like it isn't possible to adopt them out if they aren't socialized. You can't possibly take that kitten or adult and place them in a cage within an adoption center and not expect them to flip-out!!

I agree with TNR1 in that you need to stop feeding the colony unless there are intentions of TNR. They will eventually find another source of food.
post #9 of 14
Whenever we trap a feral we always leave them in the trap until their appointment. Of course we trap the night before the appointment so they're not in there any length of time. We cover the trap with a towel or sheet and put it in an area away from predators and protection of weather. They can go without food since they don't want them eating after midnight anyway. I commend you for your efforts in trying to TNR, but please read up on steps to take before you trap. Our vets will not take a feral cat unless it's in a humane trap. Here's a good source of information: http://www.alleycat.org/pdf/trapguidelines.pdf
post #10 of 14
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I understand about the trap, but seriously my vet wants them in a carrier. Now keeping them in the trap will make it easier to get them into the carrier, no room to escape, so I guess it would work just as long as it would be in overnight only. Not saying if I will be allowed to trap again, but if I am now I know what I need to do. I at least if I had to pick, wanted to get the mom spayed and placed up for adoption, since I have know her the longest, and her trust has only grown stronger. I mentioned not feeding them to my parents,and they said they wont let me stop feeding, they would even buy the food themselves. I told them if were going to feed them we have to still get them trapped and fixed, and also vaccinated, and if one gets hurts we are responcible for the vet bill. Well they heard that and said there is no way we can afford a vet bill, but the cats are still fed. My household is really strange so who knows what situation will come up next. I just hope to get one cat/kitten up for adoption at least.
post #11 of 14
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Originally Posted by keith p
I understand about the trap, but seriously my vet wants them in a carrier. Now keeping them in the trap will make it easier to get them into the carrier, no room to escape, so I guess it would work just as long as it would be in overnight only. Not saying if I will be allowed to trap again, but if I am now I know what I need to do. I at least if I had to pick, wanted to get the mom spayed and placed up for adoption, since I have know her the longest, and her trust has only grown stronger. I mentioned not feeding them to my parents,and they said they wont let me stop feeding, they would even buy the food themselves. I told them if were going to feed them we have to still get them trapped and fixed, and also vaccinated, and if one gets hurts we are responcible for the vet bill. Well they heard that and said there is no way we can afford a vet bill, but the cats are still fed. My household is really strange so who knows what situation will come up next. I just hope to get one cat/kitten up for adoption at least.
Feeding with no TNR=more cats to feed. Also...intact females will draw more intact males to your home. I would explain that to your parents and try to convince them that TNR is the best option. I know you want to get these cats adopted...and you can still try to accomplish that over time....but getting them fixed before the kitten season starts should really be the primary goal. Right now you have 4 cats....come this summer, when the kittens are old enough to have kittens of their own...who knows exactly how many you will have.

Chances are if you stop feeding them...they will find someone else who will feed them..and hopefully that person will take them to the vet to be spayed/neutered. It unfortunately helps no one to feed alone.

Katie
post #12 of 14
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Ok so today mom and the black kitten come and sit by the cat house, waiting for me to feed them like I do each day. Mom and kitten are not as close anymore since wendsdays incident. So anyway I go out and give them their can and dry food like always, then go back inside and do some things. I come up a few minutes later, and the food hasnt been touched? Then I look on my steps and theres mom and kitten, just sitting there staring in my window at me and my cat. I ignore them and leave for a few more minutes. When i come back they are still there, still staring. So I go outside shake the food, and look around to see if anything out of the ordinary is going on outside, nothing is happening, just a regular day. I go inside, then i see them still staring, but finally the kitten goes to eat, the mom follows. Well then suddenly for no reason at all, the mom runs up behind the kitten, pounces on it, and bites it back, both cats scream, and then the mom runs off, without having a bite to eat all day. The kitten comes back to eat, but only for a minute, then runs off in the opposite direction. What is happening to them, whay were they staring at me, and why did mom attck the kitten, she had access to eat way before the kitten started to eat.
post #13 of 14
maybe there just getting used to you now they say it just happens maybe its about to good luck i hope so my semi feralshave just done that after just 7 weeks well the boy more than the girl but today she stared at me then i felt her rubbing my leg so just maybe its your turn hope so xxxx
post #14 of 14
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Yeah im still not giving up on getting them fixed and adopted out, aparently these cats are not afraid even after the kitten was in a traumatic sitation, and could have warned the other cats. Besides I really have come too far to give up, I got spay/neutering certificates for all 3 free, what more could I ask for? I may have to disobey my parents, they may get mad, but I have to do it, it's all worth it. And just because the kitten ran away from me doesnt mean it cant still be adopted out, it was just unfamiliar in my garage, so of course it would not be calm like usual. Before allthis I was able to pet the kitten with no gloves on, she ate,played, and used the litterbox just fine. If thats not a reason to continue, then i dont know what is. well other reasons are mom and her littermate also.
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