Originally Posted by valanhb
The UN ain't exactly too keen on helping those people out either in any meaningful way, so that judgement can and should be passed on the vast majority of the world and not just the US.
I'll start out by saying that I am about as Patriotic about the US as they come. I support our system, democracy, capitalism, and especially our military and the men and women who voluntarily enlist to serve. But I do have to agree with Kellye here. It is short sighted and egotistical to say that the US is the BEST, bar none. In some aspects we are, without question. In other aspects, we aren't close to the top of the list. There is nothing wrong with taking pride in our great land, but we really need to be realistic too. We aren't the Great Satans or the Evil Empire; nor are we a utopia without fault. We have strengths and we also have weaknesses. When we can't admit that, we come across as the stereotypical arrogant Americans that get shunned and spit on by the rest of the world. And we also have to realize that other people will take offense by taking that stance, because they take as much pride in their countries as we do in the USA.
Thank you Heidi!! What many Americans view as `coming to the rescue' is viewed as overbearing interference can't keep your nose out of other country's affairs by the rest of the world. Rather than the Great Saviour, too often the U.S is seen as the Great Inteferer, particularly when they have a vested interest in making sure the the countries they `save' are kept intact for them to contine to make a profit (or something similar) out of.
I can't bear blinkered, blind, tunnel-vision views. If just one of the `YAY FOR AMERICA!' people ever actually acknowledged that there's some dark, and dreadful, unforgivable things in the US's history of foreign policy, you could knock me over with a feather. Seems everyone here is able to see BOTH sides of their country's history - the good AND the bad - and yet some are just plain blind, or have decided to live in a little box where nothing bad can ever touch them, well nothing bad in the US, that is, the rest of the world is plenty bad enough to keep them going for hours!
I can see you Cindy, trying to justify your arguments and being open-minded enough to be able to acknowledge the good in other countries, too, along with the bad in your own (though you are still understandably reluctant!!). That to me is the first step in gaining broader and more informed views.
But those who refuse to see any side but their own, who manipulate the truth to fit their one-sided views, who refuse to even acknowledge glaring evidence to the contrary of what they believe, well, I take what those people say with a grain of salt.
Because of the extreme one-sided nature of their arguments, they shoot themselves in the foot, and give their own arguments no credibility, and their own opinions no weight, except with others just like them.