I am so freaking mad right now

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If somebody is going to bloody complain they should have enough guts to say who they are!!!!!!!!!! quote]

thats the way i feel too although i did ask my neighbors who havent lived next door for more than a few months about it yesterday and she kinda brushed me off and said no we didn't call and walked in the house. this morning when i woke up they were moving all their stuff out of the house. they have 5 kids who all up until the day the cop came over played with my kids. but they have not spoken a word to my kids since that day .......hmmmmmmmmmm me thinks to myself??
 

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Hmmmmm bit like my situation! When I hear children out there playing I think lets call animal control - almost every single house in my street has a bunch of kids. I WILL call noise control on these peoples kids if I find out who did it. MY animals are MY pets and I'm sorry if when a stranger comes on my property that the dog defends it!
 

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This happened in my neighborhood too - it is a small street and while I have two small children (and three kitties,) - the barking always woke my baby and I was soooo upset!!! My child was becoming ill. I did speak to the person and they explained the dog's problem - now we had a lab who never barked so I suggested enrolling in a obedience school which we dd (my parents I mean). I am not suere he liked it. I never thought of complaining but he did nothing about it - and meanwhile my children or me were getting NO sleep, even though they did like the dogs. I could never let my cats out either though I have since learned thar's npt a good idea anyway. Finally, one of the more assertibe neighbors did call someone - I am not sure whop, sheriff, animal control, county??? But the dogs are gone - if only he had taken them to obedience school. That's all he had to do.

I am sorry for your situation - maybe you can talk toyour neighbor? You don't sound like the one I had.
 
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I guess the thing that bothers me alot not the most but alot is the fact that i have lived in this house since i was 6 (im 28) and i have never had less that 3 dogs in that whole time. Most of the neighbors (the ones that have been here as long as i havve) say they don't even hear the dogs anymore cause they are so used to it coming at certian times of the day (when the train goes by, when the kids come home from school, when they leave for school because all the kids in the neighbor hood walk to school together) i have been spending incredable amounts of time withh buddy (more that our regualar play and walk and feeding time) since that day cause missys not here
and i don't want buddy to get depressed. every single person on this block has at LEAST 3 dogs and if our cats(the neighborhood) were to get outdoors there would be enough to take over this side of town lol. there are 19 houses on this block and there are 27! dogs and about 37 cats (all indoors except for 1) lol
 

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Originally Posted by Dallas1pd

I would suggest trying to change your yard so the dogs don't see as many things to get them excited.
We had a problem with some neighbors twenty years ago because our dog, who wasn't an "outdoor" dog, would bark when he saw them in their yard, or when he saw another dog. We ended up putting up a 7-foot wooden fence he couldn't see through, or jump, and that solved the problem.
I can understand that constant barking or howling gets on people's nerves, though I think they should have talked to you first. Our next-door neighbors' dog is very senile, and will howl for hours on end. It sometimes gets so bad that if nobody is home, I'll go over and get him, because I know the other neighbors are fed up, and behavior modification won't work with a senile dog.
I can't understand how the policeman thinks you can "fatten up" the dogs in one week. I've had shelter dogs that it took months to get to a normal weight.
 
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Originally Posted by jcat

I can't understand how the policeman thinks you can "fatten up" the dogs in one week. I've had shelter dogs that it took months to get to a normal weight.
thats just the thing that is eating me alive! the vet said that they are both fine and in perfect health and that because their breed (heeler) is a very active one that it is perfectly normal for them to be "thin" he said they are both within the normal standards for this breed and we even had him write it down and give us a copy so "if" the policeman comes back to the door i can (very politely lol) give him the letter from the vet and (very politley lol) ask him to leave me and my dog (missy is already with charlies dad) alone!!
 

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I'm sorry you're going through this. Please be careful what you end up saying to the neighbors...not because of their feelings, but because if someone is REALLY that bothered by your dogs, it can happen where they might do something like poison them or something.
Please consider that, I'm sure you already have...
But I wouldn't want anything to happen no little Nahima after the other two are gone...
 
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I did thank about that thanks. I think that is the one thought that keeps me from turning into a raging moron lol. we had a neighbor (this really mean old man whos now dead) that hated dogs. within a 2 week period all of the dogs around his house turned up dead. i came home from school one day and ringo was laying in the back yard not like him at all. i went out there and he had blood all oaround his mouth and just wimpered when i walked up to him. my parents took him to the vet and the vet said that someone had fed him raw hamburger meat that had been mixed with crushed glass. my parents started asking the other neighbors who had lostdogs how they died and they all died the same way. my parents sued him they(the cops) did a search of his house and found rolls and rolls of hamburger meat in a freezer (nothing else just the meat) and a big bag of crushed glass. before anything else could happen he died. i think about what COLD happen to my babies and it scares me more than the initial complaint. I just hope that the person who did this believes in karma cause i do.
 

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This is completely unfair. So who is taking your dogs, and why?? Are they really his? What do the police plan on doing about it? Couldn't you have your vet prove that they are okay, and that you are working on getting them back to a normal weight, and that you care for them and they're healthy??? (((((((((((hugs))))))))))
 
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Missy and buddy are actualy Charlies dogs (DH) he has been staying at his dads because his dad is having alot of health issures that could be fatal if someone is not there to watch over him. Charlies took Missy to his dads house with him and for the past few months or so we have been trying to rehome Buddy. Charlie took him because his previous owners were gonna dump him off at the local shelter (animals there really have no chance) his intentions were to find another home for him seeing how this is a area that has a lot of farms he thought it would be easy to rehome a red heeler with farm expierence. but it has been a very long ordeal and needless to say we (charlie) has yet to find a home for him. we do have a clean bill of health on both dogs now so there should be no more problem.

p.s. Shannon my sweet Ringo didn't make it. by the time they got him to the vets he was gone. I remember sitting on the front porch waiting for him to come home for several days. i kept thinking that maybe he jumped out of the car while no one was looking (ok i was 8) and was trying to find his way home to me. It took me along time to get over that because when my grandparents adopted me i had come from a very troubled very hard beginning and Ringo was the first "person" i bonded with ever in my whole life ( i was adopted at age 5). it still makes me cry when i think about him.
 

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Originally Posted by WellingtonCats

If somebody is going to bloody complain they should have enough guts to say who they are!!!!!!!!!!

My puppies barked and we got $2000 worth of fines because of them, now who ever the heck is complaining has started complaining about my 13 year old dog - when I find out who these people are!!!!!!!!!


If I lose this dog, I've lost my life.
So where are you that $2000 in fines can be levied without every facing the "accuser" or complainant in court?
 

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Originally Posted by Mom2SalemIsis

thats just the thing that is eating me alive! the vet said that they are both fine and in perfect health and that because their breed (heeler) is a very active one that it is perfectly normal for them to be "thin" he said they are both within the normal standards for this breed and we even had him write it down and give us a copy so "if" the policeman comes back to the door i can (very politely lol) give him the letter from the vet and (very politley lol) ask him to leave me and my dog (missy is already with charlies dad) alone!!
Most cops don't know squat about animal control investigations. Should he knock again, DO NOT INVITE HIM IN. You can give him the letter if you want but other than being polite - you have NO OBLIGATION to allow him access to your home without a search warrant. Your dogs are properly cared for. Make sure you have current rabies vaccinations and city licenses and politely tell the cop to pound sand somewhere else. He cannot enter your yard if its fenced in the back without that same search warrant. If he says he is going to issue you a ticket, ask him for his supervisors name and ask a supervisor to respond to the scene. Again, polite, but this guy sounds like a yahoo. Most animal offenses are NOT arrestable unless you refuse to sign the paper. I can see just how far this case would make it in court with the letter from your vet. -- NOWHERE --

Also, don't get rid of your dogs. Get your other dog back.

Advise the oh so helpful cop that he can advise the complainant to contact you directly as neighbors should or the neighbor can pound sand as well.

PM me with your city, state and I will look up the local codes and give you some more pointers.

Bottom line - don't let the anonymous neighbor or the noknowledge cop bully you!
 

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p.s. Shannon my sweet Ringo didn't make it. by the time they got him to the vets he was gone. I remember sitting on the front porch waiting for him to come home for several days. i kept thinking that maybe he jumped out of the car while no one was looking (ok i was 8) and was trying to find his way home to me. It took me along time to get over that because when my grandparents adopted me i had come from a very troubled very hard beginning and Ringo was the first "person" i bonded with ever in my whole life ( i was adopted at age 5). it still makes me cry when i think about him.
OMG, I'm so sorry. It was a long time ago but it's obvious the pain is still there. What an awful man!
And what an awful thing for an 8 year old to go through!
 

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I am soo sorry you are losing your babies
but you know where they are going so you can visit
 

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Originally Posted by Mark Kumpf

Most cops don't know squat about animal control investigations. Should he knock again, DO NOT INVITE HIM IN. You can give him the letter if you want but other than being polite - you have NO OBLIGATION to allow him access to your home without a search warrant. Your dogs are properly cared for. Make sure you have current rabies vaccinations and city licenses and politely tell the cop to pound sand somewhere else. He cannot enter your yard if its fenced in the back without that same search warrant. If he says he is going to issue you a ticket, ask him for his supervisors name and ask a supervisor to respond to the scene. Again, polite, but this guy sounds like a yahoo. Most animal offenses are NOT arrestable unless you refuse to sign the paper. I can see just how far this case would make it in court with the letter from your vet. -- NOWHERE --

Also, don't get rid of your dogs. Get your other dog back.

Advise the oh so helpful cop that he can advise the complainant to contact you directly as neighbors should or the neighbor can pound sand as well.

PM me with your city, state and I will look up the local codes and give you some more pointers.

Bottom line - don't let the anonymous neighbor or the noknowledge cop bully you!
I agree completely, except to add that after you get your dogs back, I think you should definitely start trying to control their barking with training, and/or with an ultrasonic anti-bark beeper or citronella collars or keeping them indoors.

If your dogs are barkers, you'll need to address it for the sake of your other neighbors - the ones who may be bothered but haven't complained. An endlessly barking dog can be unbelievably nerve-wracking.

I do hope you get your dog back, and get this resolved in your favor soon!
 

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I don't think you should give away your dogs! If one of them has gone to Charlie's dad's house for awhile maybe the other will be a bit quieter. But the main thing the cop was concerned about was their weight and your vet has backed you up on that, so you have nothing to worry about. I am glad that cops care enough to check on dogs that may be mistreated. Your dogs arent' so just give them the vet's letter. Your nasty neighbour, now...I can see that barking dogs would be annoying but they should have complained to you first.
 
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well Missy is doing good hanging out with her daddy for a change (charlie is staying at his dads taking care of him) and loves it. buddy only barks now when someone he dosent knows is actually in the yard. he doesnt howl at the trains anymore and dosent he is like a tatally different dog now that shes not here. maybe it was missy that instigated all the barking and howling lol. the cop came by he wasn't gonna stop he jsut pulled up slowly in front of the house and was looking in the back yard. he looked really surprised when i flaged him down and gave him the note from the vet and the vet receipt he just looked at me like he had just been punched in the gut lol. it was funny i was nice and pleasent and told him that "we had to take the dogs in to get them updated on their shots for this year and asked the vet about their weigt and he said they were fine and there was nothing unhealthy or sickly and then wrote a nice little note to give to you as proof. and we also have the receipt from the visit." i gave him both i wish i could have taken a picture of his face but i think that would have been pushing it. it took a aminute for him to process all this and then he said "well i guess its ok i mean if the vet said they are fine and maybe they don't look as skinny as i thought. i will add this to the complaint form and that will be that. you have a nice day".....i just laughed as i watched him drive down the street.
 

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Originally Posted by Mom2SalemIsis

asked the vet about their weigt and he said they were fine and there was nothing unhealthy or sickly and then wrote a nice little note to give to you as proof. and we also have the receipt from the visit." i gave him both i wish i could have taken a picture of his face .
That is great! Bet he feels a few inches shorter and not as smart about dogs as he thought he was! Hopefully he will inform the neighbor of the vets note.
 
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