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post #31 of 57
there are a lot of outdoor cats and feral cats around here so I don't really pay any attention.
post #32 of 57
In my suburban neighborhood, there are several outdoor cats.

All of them are very-well fed. Not only do I leave food out for them (and water bowls of course!) but my neighbors do too. My neighbor Roger has 3 indoor-only cats, I have 6 indoor-only; my neighbor Ginger has 4 indoor-only dogs.

So we are all basically bleeding-heart animal lovers and these outdoor cats who live in our neighborhood and visit daily and basically just want tons of loving (since they are so well fed --- they are fat!), are not neglected.

One of my outdoor babies who we named "Peanut" is neutered. He does not wear a collar, he looks very healthy, and sometimes, doesn't even eat; he just hangs out with us and wants love & pettings.

I guess the "what I think" when I see outdoor cats is, dang it, I wish everyone kept their cats inside; OR, I think, dang it, someone's cat got out (like, Peanut, who apparently at one time was loved by someone if they neutered him) and they are missing him.
post #33 of 57
Where I used to live there were stray animals all over the place. (it wasn't a very good part of town) That is where I found my two babies!! Ginger was VERY thin and VERY sick. We thought she wasn't going to make it. She is fat and healthy now!! I also found Tiger when he was a little kitten. He just followed me around and meowed at me. I knocked on doors since there was a collar, but no one claimed him. He must have been abandoned. He had ear mites and he was thin too. They both are very happy now. I think if the cat looks thin, and sick, then even if it belongs to someone, they aren't taking very good care of it and they deserve a better place to live. Ginger had a distinctive mark on her belly so I checked lost ads in the paper. Tiger just looked like a regular little orange kitten so I don't know how anyone could identify him. I would say just use your best judgement.
post #34 of 57
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Originally Posted by Middletown
Good Subject.


Me personally,
When i see a cat by any road I always stop or slow down enough to look. always. If the cat is to close to the road, i attempt to safely send him in the other direction.

I slow down or pull over (which ever is safest) and check the cat out visually as best as I can and assess the situation.
If the cat looks taken care of (ie healthy profile) and there are homes nearby, I assume its an outdoor cat out for a stroll. even if it is in the dumpster. cats are curious. and resume my travels.

If the cat looks injured. Is not moving very fluidly or "cat-like" i will investigate further and take the appropiate actions. If there is a very apparent injury or the cat just looks sick(fur matted or lean). I attempt to find its owner, or if no houses are nearby and the cat is injured...attempt to capture the cat. Either way at this point im commited to get the cat attention from me or the SPCA. Much to my bosses objections, i am commited to help and will not leave that animal until it is in someones care.

The hardest thing to always remember when seeing a cat outside with a collar or not. the debate of "whether or not cats should be indoors only or allowed out."
People do not agree on this point and it is not safe to make the assumption that just because the cat is outside playing around that it is in danger or is being abused. That cat maybe someones life and joy out for a stroll.
Its tough on me too, as my opinion is that cats are safer inside and belong inside. But i respect that someone may not feel the same way and absolutely adore their cat.
its not our place to judge. But if the cat is sick or injured. that is another story.
This is almost exactly what my answer would be, as well.

After missing Percy for 4 weeks due to what appears to be a mistaken trapping by our local TNR, I am getting him microchipped. Poor guy, he was already neutered when he was 6 months old. They went ahead and ear-tipped him, anyway. He's fine, though, and I'm happy to know that they are caring for the feral colonies in my area. (oh, and I'm calling them to find out for sure if they really were in our area and caught my buddy, or if the ear-tip is a result of a fight with another cat...looks way too clean for that, though)

There are a lot of outdoor cats out here, as well as ferals. Just tonight the boys and I stopped to check on a young black cat we saw hiding in the ditch. Right away, I spotted the missing ear tip. Kitty ran off into the tall grass and we went on our way.
post #35 of 57
I live in the country and there is only 1 house close by to mine. That house has 3 outside dogs that kill cats, and in fact, since they have been living there, the cat population in the area has dropped dramatically.

With that said, when a cat shows up at my door, I'll trap, test and neuter (no questions asked). If it is a feral cat, I release back outside. If it is young or friendly, I will find it a home, even if that house is mine (thus I am momofmany).

Any cat that wanders this far over to my house is most likely dumped or feral. I know most of the outdoor cats in the neighborhood by sight.
post #36 of 57
I just noticed 2 new arrivals to our area tonight..2 cute little black kittens playing with each other outside our doors. They are young, but not tiny, & look so much alike they could be twins. Beautiful cats. We will be finding out soon where they came from, & I will be keeping a close eye on them, who they are from-I don't need anymore neglected neighbors' cats spraying through my windows & bringing chaos into my quiet little family. I have dealt with other loser neighbors abandoning their cats, leaving them in hopes that another caring soul will feed them & pay the vet bills. It becomes like a catch 22 situation...if the neighbors neglect their cats so that they become a problem for us, & I complain to the landlord about it, he can just tell us ALL to get rid of the cats & WE would be screwed by someone else's negligence. He knows that we are clean people & take good care of our guys, we are long term tenants, but who knows?
They are cuties, though, I can't resist them even though I know I am probably encouraging a bad situation. Tucker knows they are out there & was hissing at them through the windows.

A later addition to our little story..they are really hanging out since I have been friendly to them-the neighbor girl doesn't know anything about them & can't let them in because her cat is mean. This weekend is going to be a cold one(for Florida) & we are worried about these little ones.
post #37 of 57
The one stray that I have been seeing, well bobs was hissing yesterday afternoon and she was sitting it one of the windows in the family room-the one near ground level and another cat was staring back!! Its the same one I saw in the veg garden-the one that look like Tommie. I'm guessing its a tom-he ran when he saw me approach the window. So know of course I'll try to feed this cat. My neighbor is coming over saturday I'll ask them his they have seen this cat too.
post #38 of 57
Thread Starter 
thanks every one for your replies!


outdoor cats are not too common where i live, most often if i see a cat outdoors it has been left behind by someone who recently moved.

the cat goes back to its former home, crying to be let in (as it was never an outdoor cat before) and to be fed.

those cats usually get noticed by others and taken to the (no kill) shelter or sometimes just taken in.


what i probably should do, is post on a board of ppl who are not necessarily cat lovers, to see what they would do (although i am afraid of some of the answers...)
it might hopefully get them thinking that a cat they see as a stray or a nuisance may be someone's beloved pet, and maybe they would take some action (besides trying to shoot it with a bb gun, i mean)
even if they just called animal control to see if any cats matching that description were reported misssing.

these microchips need to be made with global positioning *whatever its called*
or a trace of some sort, so we can track down a cat that gets loose! not just pray that some kind person helps by taking the cat in and getting it scanned!!
post #39 of 57
Well,our little "neighbors" have been around all day today-we still don't know where they came from. I found out today that they are both two little males, one of them(I call him Willie) is very sweet, the other one(Jerome) is more wary. Little Willie has had his whiskers cut. They might be about 1/2 inch long, it is very obvious if you get close to him, which isn't a hard thing to do.
The girl that lives in the end apartment hasn't been home today for us to knock on the door & ask her if they are her cats-she is kind of a wild drunk, & although I don't want to get into a major conflict, if they even are her kittens, but the thing with the cut whiskers upsets me. If she does admit to them being her cats, I'll be calling her out on that, plus leaving 2 little ones out in the cold. She has already left her kid at daycare, getting so drunk she can't remember where her kid was, so I can't expect her to take care of 2 kittens. A welder at work with a farm has agreed to take one, I'll try to talk him into taking both.
post #40 of 57
Thread Starter 
oh the poor kitties! i hope that you can get them to a new home soon!!
post #41 of 57
There aren't any cats that are outdoors in my neighborhood...however, if I were to come across one....I would definately determine whether it is owned and if not, I would trap it and take it to be spayed/neutered. I highly recommend that if anyone is "feeding" outdoor neighborhood cats..that you plan to trap them and get them fixed.

Katie
post #42 of 57
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Originally Posted by catnapt
these microchips need to be made with global positioning *whatever its called*
or a trace of some sort, so we can track down a cat that gets loose! not just pray that some kind person helps by taking the cat in and getting it scanned!!
Oh, wouldn't THAT be cool.... to anyone who could pull that off, they'd be jillionaires!!! And have my undying respect!
post #43 of 57
The little ones are still hanging around, & I still haven't seen the one girl that I've wanted to ask about them..last night I made up a little box for them with towels in it so that they would have a little cubbyhole to sleep in. Today the guy at work is telling me he can't take them. We were taking care of a Siamese mix that some other crackhead left behind after moving out of that same apartment & finally found a home for him, but I can't take these 2 in..it breaks my heart, too, because Willie is so sweet.
If we do decide to take them to the Humane Society, at least there is hope that they will be adopted because they are still little, maybe they would have a better chance. I'm torn up about it, but have to decide on something.
post #44 of 57
The vast majority of the outdoor cats around here are part of a feral colony and won't let anyone but Mary (my neighbor who takes care of them) get near them. I see a few other cats from time to time, and though I don't know who they belong to, I can tell they are well-fed and relatively healthy (as much as you can tell from just looking at them, anyway). If one showed up looking at all neglected, I'd definitely try to take care of the poor thing.
post #45 of 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by evnshawn
The vast majority of the outdoor cats around here are part of a feral colony and won't let anyone but Mary (my neighbor who takes care of them) get near them. I see a few other cats from time to time, and though I don't know who they belong to, I can tell they are well-fed and relatively healthy (as much as you can tell from just looking at them, anyway). If one showed up looking at all neglected, I'd definitely try to take care of the poor thing.
But the bigger question is...are they spayed/neutered?? If all she is doing is feeding them, then the colony will get unmanageable and you will start seeing them become sick. It isn't only important to ensure that a cat is well fed...it should also be spayed/neutered so it doesn't add to the overpopulation.

Katie
post #46 of 57
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Originally Posted by TNR1
But the bigger question is...are they spayed/neutered?? If all she is doing is feeding them, then the colony will get unmanageable and you will start seeing them become sick. It isn't only important to ensure that a cat is well fed...it should also be spayed/neutered so it doesn't add to the overpopulation.

Katie
Oh, no, by "taking care of" I meant she feeds them and does TNR. She hasn't been able to trap them all yet, but she's getting there.
post #47 of 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by evnshawn
Oh, no, by "taking care of" I meant she feeds them and does TNR. She hasn't been able to trap them all yet, but she's getting there.
That's good...it's important to stabilize the colony.

Katie
post #48 of 57
Since it seems that ALL the neighborhood cats come to OUR house for congregating and eating...I do nothing really but feed them. Those that remain get neutered.
post #49 of 57
I think it's hard to do anything where I live. People dump cats by the litterful around here (country). The shelters are overflowing and won't accept them, if they do happen to have an opening, they insist that YOU pay the vet bills to make sure the cats are healthy before they'll accept them. We easily see over 100 cats come and go in any year - so how am I supposed to afford someone elses mistakes to this magnitude? It would be different if I could take in a litter for under $20 to the vet, but no, they could care less and demand $24 PER KITTEN - plus vaccination costs!

We even found one cat, Siamese heritage, taped up in a box and thrown into our water-filled ditch! I have seen people thrown whole litters out of their car windows (not even stopping) in plastic bags. I will put out food for them, some stick around, others don't and disapear into the forest. We'll spay/neuter any that decide to adopt us and stick around (usually kittens), but I don't have the financial ability to take care of every cat that comes here - and the vets are not interested in working for free/cost for a TNR program. The closest the people who preform these services come is 60 + miles away.
post #50 of 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by fluffysimba
Since it seems that ALL the neighborhood cats come to OUR house for congregating and eating...I do nothing really but feed them. Those that remain get neutered.
Huh. That must be 'cause you're the neighborhood cool cat mom so all the cat kids love to hang out at your place.
post #51 of 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mihoshi
I think it's hard to do anything where I live. People dump cats by the litterful around here (country). The shelters are overflowing and won't accept them, if they do happen to have an opening, they insist that YOU pay the vet bills to make sure the cats are healthy before they'll accept them. We easily see over 100 cats come and go in any year - so how am I supposed to afford someone elses mistakes to this magnitude? It would be different if I could take in a litter for under $20 to the vet, but no, they could care less and demand $24 PER KITTEN - plus vaccination costs!

We even found one cat, Siamese heritage, taped up in a box and thrown into our water-filled ditch! I have seen people thrown whole litters out of their car windows (not even stopping) in plastic bags. I will put out food for them, some stick around, others don't and disapear into the forest. We'll spay/neuter any that decide to adopt us and stick around (usually kittens), but I don't have the financial ability to take care of every cat that comes here - and the vets are not interested in working for free/cost for a TNR program. The closest the people who preform these services come is 60 + miles away.

Have you tried contacting TNR groups in the state:

http://www.alleycat.org/orgs.html#oh

Either way you are going to be "paying" for these cats...either in your taxes to pay the government to pick up and euthanize them or by TNRing them....my choice is TNR.

Katie
post #52 of 57
It depends on many, many factors.

-How's the neighborhood?
-How does the cat look?
-How old is the cat?
-Any identifiers, like a collar?

I always immediately pick up pregnant cats, kittens under 5 months old, and kittens 5-8 months old if it is a bad neighborhood or at night. Anyone who is obviously in bad shape (malnourished, fight wounds, etc) also comes with me. If the cat is an adult and seems to be fine, then I leave him/her alone and if I keep seeing him/her, find out the story and whether or not s/he has a home.

Of course, this is only for cats who are friendly. Ferals are TNR'ed unless already eartipped.
post #53 of 57
Well in our neighborhood there aren't too many outside cats but i have seen a few,most belong to ppl because they have tags around their necks.
Our cats stay indoors all the time.
I think it's sad when you see stays with no homes
post #54 of 57
As has already been said, it's not uncommon to see cats outdoors!! I have a great deal that come to visit and utilise 'Charlie's' cat house.

I feed them and give them water and they can sleep in the cat house. It would be near impossible for me to find out where they all live, because the area is so extensive.

Some do have collars and others don't, some cared for and some not.

When Willow appeared at my door, as kitten, I did my utmost to find if he had a home - I would hate to take someone's beloved pet from them.

Also, you can generally feel for a microchip between their shoulder blades to get a good idea (not accurate, mind you) as to if they have one.
post #55 of 57
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva!
It's not unusual to see outdoor cats in our area. Well, in Perth full stop, actually. It's a pretty quiet place and in suburbia the streets are very quiet, so kitties are allowed out all the time. My girls are indoor/outdoor cats. They don't have collars or tags because once Sashka got hers caught on something, but they are microchipped and tattooed.

If I see a cat outside then I always look closely (as much as possible) to see what condition it's in, whether it has a collar and tag, or if it looks friendly etc. I nearly always try to coax it for a quick cuddle, and usually succeed! Which is a good thing, because it means that it is usually being well looked after and is just out for a look around.

That's how it is in Bunbury where i used to live, most people have their cats outdoors with collars and tags, i do give them a quick look over to see if their okay but if they are healthy and have a collar i leave them alone because when bonnie was an outdoor cat the last thing i wanted was someone taking her in when she already had a perfectly good home.

if a cat is obviously a stray then i will step in, if i find a collared cat that doesn't look healthy i call the owner first, it might have just come back from the vet and be sick or it might be on medication, you can't just assume that it's been treated badly because it's skinny or unhealthy looking, there might be a perfectly valid reason for how it looks. i do always check cats out though, to see if they are stray and if their not i coax them over for a cuddle
post #56 of 57
I'm sorry, but I guess I have a bit of a prejudice here, since a lot of cat owners don't take very good care of their cats here in Japan. So, when I see a cat outside, I immediately have this feeling of wanting to take it home with me.

I also think the cat does not belong to anyone, that it was abandoned, or that it will get into a fight and get injured. I think the cat has been digging through garbage.

The only acception is if I have seen the cat before in the same place. In that case, I think the cat belongs to someone near by.
post #57 of 57
There is an outdoor cat at the moment that I would like to dump a bucket of water over....and I would never normally say that. Our neighbour's cat hangs out in our driveway and seriously terrorises Sashka. Keeping her inside all the time terrorises her more, unfortunately, but every night for the past week we have heard a shriek come from the front lawn and then Sashka comes bolting in, eyes wide and tail thick as a tree trunk. This other cat is very bold and it is quite a pretty cat, but it would look better soaking wet, IMO.

No seriously, I would NEVER wet it or frighten it, but that is one outdoor kitty that is causing a lot of trouble in our neighbourhood. Sunday scares it, though (good for her) but she doesn't go outside much cos she's too lazy. She does get a bit feisty when she thinks Sashka's in trouble, though, and marches out there to scare this other cat off.

That is when having outdoor cats is a problem, either they are aggressive or they are bullied by other cats. We have been keeping Sashka inside since there's been real trouble with this other kitty but it just makes her miserable, she's a very free spirit.
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