Do all TNR's have their ear clipped after? Pru has a slit on her left ear, possibly from a fight, but are the ear clippings a slit like that or bigger? Thanks, I'm just trying to figure out her story.
Are you serious? Gee, when I was in high school wearing an earring in one ear meant different things, depending on which ear it was and on which coast you lived on.In most of the US, the left ear is the standard place to eartip. On the West Coast, though, the right ear is standard.
Thank you very much, hijack away!I don't have an answer, but I wanted to and tell you your kitties are beautiful!!!!
The short answer is no. The long answer is that they tried but nothing else works. Tattoos can't be read from a distance and can be impossible to see on a black cat (remember that these are cats you can't touch and generally can't approach). Additionally, tattoo equipment is expensive and very difficult to properly sterilize which would put the cats at risk for communicable diseases. (That's why you can't donate blood for a year after getting a tattoo.) Ear tags fall off and get infected, plus putting in an ear tag is not much different for the cat than eartipping and there is also the issue of expense and extra equipment. Microchips are useful because of the information they can contain but you can't tell a cat is microchipped without a scanner, so they are only useful in addition to, no in place of, an eartip. Some people do other things too...I know of a vet who shaves the cats' tails...apparently common sense isn't so common, because anyone with an ounce of common sense should see that this won't work because the fur will grow right back!Originally Posted by joecool
Isn't that a little mean? Couldn't they find another way to mark them?
Standard is 1 cm but it really is variable. I personally prefer a larger eartip because I want to be able to see it from some distance even at night.Originally Posted by Rang_27
I just wanted to but in & say that, that looks like a lot less than what I've seen on the cats here in Milwaukee. We had a cat at our shelter that had been part of a TNR colony one of our donors has, & he had a lot more than that gone & the guy had asked them not to take as much as they normally do. The kitties name was Bubba & he's in a home now & is a super sweet cat!!!
Sorry to hijack the thread.
I understand the need to mark them, but it just seemed a little mean. I guess it is the only way, at least for now. Thanks for the info!Originally Posted by semiferal
The short answer is no. The long answer is that they tried but nothing else works. Tattoos can't be read from a distance and can be impossible to see on a black cat (remember that these are cats you can't touch and generally can't approach). Additionally, tattoo equipment is expensive and very difficult to properly sterilize which would put the cats at risk for communicable diseases. (That's why you can't donate blood for a year after getting a tattoo.) Ear tags fall off and get infected, plus putting in an ear tag is not much different for the cat than eartipping and there is also the issue of expense and extra equipment. Microchips are useful because of the information they can contain but you can't tell a cat is microchipped without a scanner, so they are only useful in addition to, no in place of, an eartip. Some people do other things too...I know of a vet who shaves the cats' tails...apparently common sense isn't so common, because anyone with an ounce of common sense should see that this won't work because the fur will grow right back!
So eartipping is the universal sign for a sterilized and vaccinated feral cat. It's done under anesthesia while the cat is being s/n, takes just a few seconds and requires just a hemostat and a blade or surgical scissors (very important since finances are a major concern for all TNR operations), and is minimally painful. It is a sign that is permanent and easily identifiable even from a distance, which are the two criteria for an effective means of identifying a TNR'ed feral cat.
Since many animal control agencies now recognize that an eartip means the cat is sterilized and cared for, it literally is now lifesaving. And for the cat, an extra minor procedure means she won't ever be re-trapped and unnecessarily subjected to surgery to look for the ovaries that were removed long ago. I have seen a good number of female cats undergo unnecessary surgery because no one knew they were spayed, and this is definitely something that one must avoid.
I think mean is more these cats were not taken care of until someone had the heart to fix/feed/and watch over them. A little ear-tip while under anesthesia is nothing compared to what they have been going through before then. Probably worse happens when they get in a fight over a female or territory than the ear-tipped. Also, if the ear wasn't tipped they may go through another needless surgery. It's nice to know you have enough compassion to think this is mean, but what you need to look at is the over all picture.Originally Posted by joecool
I understand the need to mark them, but it just seemed a little mean. I guess it is the only way, at least for now. Thanks for the info!
Usually TNR are for those unadoptable or nowhere else to go. TNR is for those that manage a colony by fixing, feeding and watering. The main purpose for return is putting them back in their familiar environment and then caring for them. Relocating is not a good choice unless the ferals environment is dangerous or being destroyed. Relocation takes many steps to have the cats become familiar with the territory. Sounds like your neighbors need some good ole education on why to spay/neuter!Originally Posted by joecool
Are the only cats that are TNRed the un-adoptable ones?
And the purpose of returning the fixed cats is to keep new ones from taking the space, correct?
I have neighbors with an unneutered tom that they have had since he was a kitten. He lives only outdoors, and is two years old. They say "it doesn't cause a problem we can see."