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post #1 of 16
12/26/05 at 5:59pm
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Kandie and Gigi like rabbit( chn and veggies is eaten but not like the rabbit ... the mix is rabbit and bone .. I know a few of you gave supplement ideas.. I need the links ....

Thanks in advance
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post #2 of 16
12/27/05 at 4:50pm
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I need links to web sites that sell the supplements as no one around here has them or is willing to order
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post #3 of 16
12/27/05 at 8:22pm
I don't know if this is a good price around the web but its the product that I use and I've heard Kai talk about it too. Its good as a general raw food supplement especially if they don't get the organ meats. It also has taurine in it which I didn't realize before or I would not have needed to get seperate taurine capsules. Its a well rounded supplement.
Wysong: Call Of The Wild
http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/Wysong...d_p/101079.htm

I also, maybe once a week, put a little Bee Pollen in the food. This is to boost immune system health. Its used in people and in animals. This is sort of a personal preference supplement as its not really required but good to have on hand in case you suspect illness. That little boost can really help. Its also good to get local bee pollen if you have a cat with seasonal allergies but thats not usually a problem with most cats on a raw diet.

The last big one I use is probiotics. This can be done daily or intermittently. I tend to use it when my cats get loose stool (ie. got into something they shouldn't have). As probiotics will help the intestinal flora and will help them recover faster from the bout. Its also good for people but a great addition as needed or regular.
http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/Ark_Na...t_p/121017.htm (This is the same brand I use)

Actually it looks like Wysong has a products that has probiotics in it:
http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/Wysong...e_p/101095.htm
I really like the looks of this one and I really trust Wysong with their supplements. They have some good combinations.
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post #4 of 16
12/27/05 at 8:26pm
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Thank you ....

I think I need it since the girls are really liking rabbit which is rabbit and bone..
I did the taurine and the muti and the extra b and finally realized I needed help ... ahh thank you lord for dr tracy...
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post #5 of 16
12/27/05 at 8:33pm
Your welcome . With the Wysong products you could probably replace most individual supplements. I still do individual supplements but hey if you can get it all in one its worth it. Wysong has a great line of products.
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post #6 of 16
12/27/05 at 8:46pm
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I used to take bee pllen ... hard to get local though...

yeah probiotics are great evan the dry food girl gets those

all in one would make my head spin less...lol.. I worked on a human nutrition degree not a verterinary one
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post #7 of 16
12/28/05 at 8:10am
Ok im doing research on raw diet since i will be getting my bengal boy at the end of Jan I've read about the seperate supplements that you add to the food when preparing the batch, but with Call of the wild do u add it as your preparing the big batch to freeze or do u add it right b4 you feed? Or can you do both?

Thanks
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post #8 of 16
12/28/05 at 8:23am
I always like to add supplements prior to feeding. I've read quite a bit that its always better that they are fresh. However, I'm not sure with Call Of The Wild if its necessary. The food I get is preprepared so I don't have a choice either.

I just looked up the instructions:
"Topdress or mix with each fresh meat meal."

So I'm guessing they don't want it to be frozen.
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post #9 of 16
12/28/05 at 8:27am
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Originally Posted by Southernlocs
Ok im doing research on raw diet since i will be getting my bengal boy at the end of Jan I've read about the seperate supplements that you add to the food when preparing the batch, but with Call of the wild do u add it as your preparing the big batch to freeze or do u add it right b4 you feed? Or can you do both?

Thanks

Congrats on your new bengal!

I top dress the raw food with "call of the wild", right before serving it up. You can also mix it in if your boy doesn't like the smell of the supplement.
Might not be so good to prepare first, then freeze, because freezing sometimes adversely affects certain components of foods. I don't know what it would do to the supplement if anything.
Maybe someone else can chime in about that aspect, if they know that it's ok.
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post #10 of 16
12/29/05 at 10:09am
Ok another question lol, can you use grocery store bought meat or do you need something special? I plan on using the supplements but not sure where to get the meats from. I think this is my last question for awhile lol(yeah right)
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post #11 of 16
12/29/05 at 10:36am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Southernlocs
Ok another question lol, can you use grocery store bought meat or do you need something special? I plan on using the supplements but not sure where to get the meats from. I think this is my last question for awhile lol(yeah right)
I would use meat from one grocery here since it is a small chain and they know which farm my meat came from... I was using organic meat when I tried to do it myself but that got very $$
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post #12 of 16
12/29/05 at 10:56am
I'm always a little leary of the packaging/handling practices in a grocery store. I know a lot of people go to a butcher for their meats. Free range or organic is better as it has no added hormones but expensive. I occasionally grab something from the grocery store (ie. a wing for them to chew on). But I'd check out your local butchers as their prices might even be better too.
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post #13 of 16
12/29/05 at 11:08am
Hmmmm local butcher? Dont know of any since i just moved to Georgia lol. Umm i guess i got some research to do.'

Thanks!!!
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post #14 of 16
12/29/05 at 12:26pm
I seriously do not have the time to prepare a home made raw diet for 15 to 20 bengal cats and kittens, so I use this company:

Bravo! Raw Diet

I get a weekly shipment in by UPS. Shipped frozen in dry ice.

It's a good product.
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post #15 of 16
12/29/05 at 4:15pm
Ok what are the prices like for Bravo? I see the listing but no prices
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post #16 of 16
12/30/05 at 8:05pm
I'm not sure where Bravo is located but you might also check out this company:
http://www.nudimensionsnutrition.com...rchase_ndn.htm

They are located in the mountains of NC. Their prices are $1.50/lb around for chicken, around $2 for turkey, on up to $4.50 for rabbit and duck. They are a smaller company so you have to e-mail them to see if they will ship to you and you will probably have to order regularly for them to do the shipment but not sure. You want to find a place that is as close to you locally as possible as this NEEDS to stay frozen through transport.

Check out other companies as there are many and pick the closest. As far as butchers go, check out your phone book. I need to do the same . I'm not sure what the Mexican population is in your area but also look for "Carneceria" as that is what we have a lot of locally here and they are butchers.

I like the variety Bravo offers and when I have a larger freezer I might start ordering from them too. I'm spoiled as I can run to my local health food store on the way home from work to get my food . However, with Bravo they have EVERYTHING a raw food feeder would like to see in a diet...
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