Sorry for my bad english, hope you do understand.
We do have now a discussion about homeless/semiferals on my swedish forum.
In Sweden we dont have any TNR. We do usually try to get them in and resocialize. The alternative used sometimes is death, either by the towns employed hunter - or after taking in.
- This mainly a) the harsh winter in most parts of Sweden, b) here are less homeless cats than in many other countries, it is therefore possible to try to take in most of the homeless. c) It happens not seldom people do abandon cats, the word "summercat" (kitten for the summer, after that abandoned and left) is well known as one example. But abandoning cat is socially NOT accepted. No abandoner would ever admit in public he/she has done it. He may admit he did killed the cat, but he wouldnt admit to abandon it.
One of participants on the forum, herself helping and fostering these semiferals, says now: a) the live as homeless is terrible, they are dying by sickedness and even hunger althought people try to help them. Other cats happens dont let them get the food.
b) I do work with them, I have always at least one in home with me and resocialize them. But they are trusting me, it is often impossible afterwards to pass them away to other people... So Im stuck with a bunch of ex-ferals, and cant help any more as it is. Not even the tame ones, who are fairly easy to help.
c) In the same time I do help 1 semiferal homeless cat, I could help 10 tame homeless cats.
d) So now I´m beginning to think it is better to take away the ferals/semiferals - it is inhumane to let them die slowly and painfully outside BUT takes too much time to resocialize. And instead concentrate to save the tame cats. 10 saved tame homeless cats on each feral...
I said among other: she, doing a great and wonderful job, did also a mistake: You shall not keep the resocialized ex-ferals! After socializing they shall on to their new families! You may keep one now and then, but NOT as a rule.
Second. What you are saying is it is much better to be dead than semiferal. And it is surely true if they are left without any help, but with a good TNR-programme they do OK, being neutered, and getting some food and help if necessary.
But. They said. All this you say sounds good and fine. But if we have TNR and do say TNR is working, so the abandoners will say: yes, but if they do OK outside, then I CAN abandon. There is no longer any reason for me not to abandon, me abandoning is not giving the cats a horrible death as they say...
What do you say, TNR-people here and fellows forumites??
We do have now a discussion about homeless/semiferals on my swedish forum.
In Sweden we dont have any TNR. We do usually try to get them in and resocialize. The alternative used sometimes is death, either by the towns employed hunter - or after taking in.
- This mainly a) the harsh winter in most parts of Sweden, b) here are less homeless cats than in many other countries, it is therefore possible to try to take in most of the homeless. c) It happens not seldom people do abandon cats, the word "summercat" (kitten for the summer, after that abandoned and left) is well known as one example. But abandoning cat is socially NOT accepted. No abandoner would ever admit in public he/she has done it. He may admit he did killed the cat, but he wouldnt admit to abandon it.
One of participants on the forum, herself helping and fostering these semiferals, says now: a) the live as homeless is terrible, they are dying by sickedness and even hunger althought people try to help them. Other cats happens dont let them get the food.
c) In the same time I do help 1 semiferal homeless cat, I could help 10 tame homeless cats.
d) So now I´m beginning to think it is better to take away the ferals/semiferals - it is inhumane to let them die slowly and painfully outside BUT takes too much time to resocialize. And instead concentrate to save the tame cats. 10 saved tame homeless cats on each feral...
I said among other: she, doing a great and wonderful job, did also a mistake: You shall not keep the resocialized ex-ferals! After socializing they shall on to their new families! You may keep one now and then, but NOT as a rule.
Second. What you are saying is it is much better to be dead than semiferal. And it is surely true if they are left without any help, but with a good TNR-programme they do OK, being neutered, and getting some food and help if necessary.
But. They said. All this you say sounds good and fine. But if we have TNR and do say TNR is working, so the abandoners will say: yes, but if they do OK outside, then I CAN abandon. There is no longer any reason for me not to abandon, me abandoning is not giving the cats a horrible death as they say...
What do you say, TNR-people here and fellows forumites??