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post #1 of 19
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I was at the doggie beach the other day with Ruby and Chester, and they were ON their leads, trotting happily along enjoying the sunshine and the sand and the other doggies.

A little Jack Russell (OFF lead) came up to Ruby and started growling and snarling and snapping at her. It bit her on the nose and then tried to mount her neck and shoulders. She was terrfied and whimpering. This dog's owner just sauntered along as if nothing was happening so I loudly said, `Oh yeah, don't worry, just let your dog terrify my dog'.

She stopped, came over to me, LOOMED above me in a threatening way and said, `That's called dominance behaviour, there's nothing wrong with it', very sarcastically and patronisingly. I was so angry the cleverest thing I could come up with was `Your dog BIT my dog, that is not dominance, that is aggression' but by then she was walking off.

I WISH I could have had the presence of mind to say, `Actually, I am an obedience trainer-in-training and what your dog is displaying is very aggressive, dog-angry behaviour. My dog has submitted, she is on her back and whining, and your dog still has not let up. It is growling, snarling and biting. True dominance should stop when the dominant dog has acheived control - which yours clearly has. It is badly trained and dangerous and should be on a leash, as should you, clearly'.

Unfortunately that only came to mind a while later when I was still fuming about it with Max (who was very impressed with me, I might add...lol lol)

What would you have done in this situation???
post #2 of 19
Well I'd have been tempted to demonstrate 'dominance' as she calls it, on her!

Not that I would have, just would have wanted to! Was Ruby's nose ok? I always think of sassy things to say later on too! Reminds me of the time I was walking my dog, on a lead, in my parent's neighborhood and suddenly these 3 black dogs showed up. They didn't do anything, just started circling around the two of us. Tasha was not happy and it was all I could do to calmly walk home and show no fear. When I got home I started shouting for my stepbrother's help because the dogs followed us and circled us the entire time, and then were in our garage. My wonderful brother ignored me too. I wanted to strangle my brother (because telling on him did nothing of course!) and then strangle whoever thoes dogs belonged to!
post #3 of 19
Oh yeah, I would have dominated all over that
post #4 of 19
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LOL! You should have seen me afterwards I was like this: (I have been dying to use that smiley for so long! )

We know our dogs are just pups and so haven't got good recall off leash, so we don't let them off leash around other dogs until they're better at it. If I had a dog like that Jack Russell I would NEVER let it off leash - some people have no idea

I couldn't stop ranting about it for ages but Max was thankfully very understanding and right there with me...

They say dogs are like their owners and in this case that was very true. However I probably should have tried to be more like Ruby who was over it in ten seconds and completely absorbed in finding out what was under the seaweed!
post #5 of 19
Hmmmm...I think that dog would have had my boot up its backside! And then I would have given a swift kick to the owner too!!!

It really annoys me when people do that!! Because what ends up happening, is you go to break it up and then you get bitten as well!!

Stupid woman! Good on you for saying something! If you see her again, give her a piece of your mind!
post #6 of 19
I would have done everything I could to get that other dog off my dog.
post #7 of 19
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Originally Posted by eburgess
I would have done everything I could to get that other dog off my dog.
I would have loved to kick it but I had both hands full with the leads of both dogs and I was trying to hold Ruby back away from this dog as well. I was scared it was going to bite ME.

And even though it was aggressive, I shouldn't say that. I would never kick a dog (or any other animal) but I certainly would have had no compunctions about kicking it's owner right in the backside!!
post #8 of 19
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva!

What would you have done in this situation???
Bit the b***** (rhymes with witch) on the nose and I don't mean the dog.
post #9 of 19
Call animal control and let them know that agressive doga are being let off leash in the area. They will swing by from time to time and may catch the dog in the act. This will give the lady a huge fine to pay and she may decide to keep her doggy brat on a leash from now on. Check the signs in the area for a number to call and the rules of this park.
post #10 of 19
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva!
What would you have done in this situation???
asked for her proof of rabies vaccination, & requested quarantine of her animal if she couldn't produce proof. called the ASPCA if she balked. there's no excuse for her allowing such an unfriendly dog leashless among others.
post #11 of 19
How irresponsible can people get? We had a Boxer who was extremely aggressive with other dogs, but only after he himself was attacked and injured by another dog, and we never let him off the leash if any other dogs were in sight, or if we were in an area where a lot of people walked their dogs. We also carried pepper spray to break up any dog fights that might occur.
I still carry a can of pepper spray when walking dogs (my family's, or our neighbors' dog), so that dog would have gotten a brief spray in the face. Our neighbors' dog was attacked by a pitbull a few years ago, and badly hurt, so they carry the spray, too.
post #12 of 19
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Originally Posted by laureen227
asked for her proof of rabies vaccination, & requested quarantine of her animal if she couldn't produce proof. called the ASPCA if she balked. there's no excuse for her allowing such an unfriendly dog leashless among others.
post #13 of 19
I would have asked for the vac proof ....and
and tried to find the rules to the park...

I do own a dog who can be aggressive toward other dogs ... I walk at night to avoid other dogs she has gotten better thru training butpeople who dont control them make me so mad... My little dog is off leash trained thankfully she wont go near other dogs unless they come to her, cats she loves and that s another story
post #14 of 19
To be honest, it doesn't matter whether it was dominance or aggression or dominance aggression ...
It shouldn't be allowed. Period.

I even hate when owners allow this at dog parks. The owner should be the leader, not an unruly dog who is untrained.

I have a very sore spot for uninformed and obnoxious dog owners...

What I would have done is to call out to the owner to control her dog that instant or you would have to.( I may even say that your dog is aggressive and there is a chance her dog may get hurt).
If she didn't call the dog or come to collect him immediately, I would have pulled the dog off my dog and corrected him asap..

Hope you don't run into her again!!
post #15 of 19
I'm glad your dog is okay. Unfortunately, my emotions would have probably gotten the better of me, so I won't say I'd be all calm and ask for papers and whatnot! Even though that's what I would have wanted to do! Good for those that would!

I'd have tried to keep the dog away, but I wouldn't have been as nice to the . So I probably would have ended up getting my butt kicked, because she sounds violent!
post #16 of 19
I am glad your dog is ok. When I was 13, I had a little mutt of a dog who had full run of our yard and our neighbor's yard (my dog and theirs were best buds) A big dog from the next street came into the neighbor's yard and BIT my dog almost in two, killing him. My neighbors blocked me from going to him because they wanted to spare me. My Grandma loved this dog tremendously and since she lived with us, she was with him everyday. I still think that is what caused her heart attack shortly afterwords. She died of a broken heart.
post #17 of 19
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Originally Posted by Catkiki
I am glad your dog is ok. When I was 13, I had a little mutt of a dog who had full run of our yard and our neighbor's yard (my dog and theirs were best buds) A big dog from the next street came into the neighbor's yard and BIT my dog almost in two, killing him. My neighbors blocked me from going to him because they wanted to spare me. My Grandma loved this dog tremendously and since she lived with us, she was with him everyday. I still think that is what caused her heart attack shortly afterwords. She died of a broken heart.
That is so sad. Your Grandmother must have been a lovely woman.
post #18 of 19
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Originally Posted by Catkiki
I am glad your dog is ok. When I was 13, I had a little mutt of a dog who had full run of our yard and our neighbor's yard (my dog and theirs were best buds) A big dog from the next street came into the neighbor's yard and BIT my dog almost in two, killing him. My neighbors blocked me from going to him because they wanted to spare me. My Grandma loved this dog tremendously and since she lived with us, she was with him everyday. I still think that is what caused her heart attack shortly afterwords. She died of a broken heart.
Oh wow that is awful you poor thing! How terribly distressing. It is very sad when people don't understand the power their dogs can have
post #19 of 19
Sounds like the OWNER is in need of some obedience training!!!
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