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My one year old ragdoll kitten (male and neutered) wants to be the dominant over my three year old spayed siamese. The ragdoll is constantly pursuing my siamese, sniffing her butt to the point of pushing her off, and guards two scratching posts (his and the one that came with my siamese). I thought older cats of the female persuasion are usually the dominant. I know this sounds weird but I prefer that my siamese be the top cat (I have had her for about 5-6 weeks now). What can I do to make my siamese more dominant. She does have a tendency to be skittish around new people.

Update: now the ragdoll is drinking from siamese's water bowl and runs off my siamese when she does the same for his. My siamese needs to fight back but she does lack claws and size.
 

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I don't think there is much you can do to change dominance - the cats have to sort it out themselves. Once they do, they are usually pretty happy and accepting of the situation and any human interference will only confuse them and make them very unhappy. It is even better if you recognise the situation (once you are sure of it) and feed the dominant one first.
 
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My siamese has a very dependent personality. I cannot shut the doors or she will cry out loudly nonstop. I also have to constantly pick her up and let her sleep in my bed.
 
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I have a large kitten that still has its claws but I also have a declawed, smaller cat. Should I be worried that the larger kitten will hurt my older cat? My older cat wants to play gently but the kitten becomes too aggressive and defensive and fights back really hard. My older kitten usually runs away from the fight. Maybe it's not a good idea to have a declawed animal living in the same house with an aanimal that still has its claws.
 

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I have a large and a med/ large cats... the large one is 17 and declwed on the front she hold s her own againt the 22 month old clawed baby... you shouldnt have trouble unless u have an agressive kitty
 

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Hissing and growling, and eventually losing a play buddy will teach the kitten what is tolerable and what hurts. Cats coats are very thick and can take a lot of abuse without blood. I wouldn't worry about having them together. They just have to figure each other out.
 

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Do NOT declaw the other one. Cats fight more with their teeth or back claws then the front ones. Your declawed cat is that way because he knows he has no defense. Many declawed cats act this way around other cats.

That is one of the reasons we tell people not to do it - it can change the cat's personality for the worse.

You might try putting on the Soft Paws nail covers on the clawed one or make sure his claws are always trimmed short. If the cats still do not get along you may have to find a new home for the one with claws.

I tell people that if you do declaw, you should keep that cat for the rest of its life as its something you created and not fair to dump the cat if it becomes aggressive, or doesn't use the litter box, etc.
 

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Just keep your eyes open for any cuts (accidental or otherwise). When i first had my two together, Rambo was a kitten and didn't know better. He gave Lucky a nasty slice on the nose that needed to be taken care of. Otherwise Rambo quickly learned from Lucky what was allowed and not allowed!
 
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I have am having some problems with this bigger kitty. He's good around me but he thinks he can push around the older smaller cat. I want the kitty to be less aggressive but if push comes to shove then I have to find another home for the aggressive kitty, maybe he's one of those only pet type of cats.
 

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I have one declawed (not by me) and two with claws. The declawed cat is far more aggressive than the other two, and I believe it's as a result of having her claws ripped out.

If you watch out for the two of them, they ought to be fine.
 

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Originally Posted by StraightCatMan

My siamese has a very dependent personality. I cannot shut the doors or she will cry out loudly nonstop. I also have to constantly pick her up and let her sleep in my bed.
Siamese are often very affectionate and want human companionship (that's why I love them so much). Is her dependency a problem for you? I know a lot of folks who would love to have a cat like that.
 
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No, I love her for being that way. I don't even consider her a cat. She's more like a dog. But I am concerned with how this ragdoll is treating her. He eats her food, drinks her water, lashes out at her if she uses any of the two scratch posts, and chases after her in an aggressive manner.
 
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both cats are fixed...however my siamese was declawed (not my doing)....she never plays rough...only the ragdoll kitten does....the ragdoll is loving towards me but wants the siamese out of the way...
 

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He is just being Alpha. They will figure it out soon enough. You cannot determine who the Alpha will be, and if they both have Alpha tendecies the strongest one will win out.
 
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