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post #1 of 28
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Please help!!!!!!! I think that we've started a downward spiral that started with the best on intensions. I have a 7 year old Siamese, Hootie. He was the only cat until a month and a half ago when a pitiful stray came to our door (a little girl said that he lived under her shed.) Long story, he was old, missing teeth and underweight. (We took him to vet before bringing him in to our other cat.) We got him up 2 pounds in a couple of weeks and was acting great. He then didn't look so good. Blood tests showed kidney damage and hyperthyroid, so he put him on half strength meds for thy. Nose dive!!!!!!!!Charlie started going down further and was ultimately throwing up internal tissue like stuff, blood and blood in his stool. 24 hrs later, he had to be put to sleep. (Vet suspected lymphoma maybe?) He was a great GREAT cat! My 5 year old daughter was distraught (my cat won't let the kids play with him.) We went to the local shelter and rescued another cat. Hootie seemed fine with it. He's not aggressive at all and likes to play. Unfortunately, that kitty wouldn't let the kids pick him up and growled and would bite. We gave him a week to see if it would improve and then called the rescue (a no kill) center and the lady who works with the cats (who wasn't there the day we brought him home) said that he was just like that. She recommended we bring him in and adopt Gidget. Gidget is just getting over URI and sneezes a bit, but seems OK. Took her to the vet and she's on a bit more stuff, but he suspects that it may only be allergies now since its just a runy nose. But here's the problem, Hootie seems depressed or something. Maybe he's sick. Took him to the vet for vomitting and he also had loose stool. He was dehydrated and given fluids, a dewormer in case he got a stomach worm from one of the cats, and meds to give for vomitting. (He suspected he may have eaten a bug?) It hasn't stopped. And I don't think he is eating or drinking. He seems to like Gidget too. They do run around a little and they have never attacked each other, a little hissing, but not all the time.. But something just isn't right. I am scared!!!!!! Hootie is my boy - the one who sleeps under my arm every night and gets me through a lot of hard times when my husband is deployed elsewhere. He is an inside only cat. What do you think? Too many friends? Is he still upset about losing his buddy Charley (he would sort of lay next to him, especially when Charlie was getting weak.)
post #2 of 28
First of all hello Secondly, it sounds like Hootie is coming down with the begining of a URI That is probably the reason he won't eat, when cat's can't smell what their eating they don't eat it. You NEED to take him to the vet ASAP! He needs to be evaluated and started on some anti-biotics probably. As far as eating, buy some really smelly canned food like tuna or something, if he still does'nt eat you will probably have to start hand feeding him with a (needleless) syringe. You can pick these up at the vet's office. You must also try to get him to drink some water, they can become dehydrated so easily when they are ill. PLEASE let me know how he is doing,and what the vet says. The kitties and I will be praying for you both.
post #3 of 28
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I will take him back today. I did bring them both in at the same time and I asked the vet if he thought that Hootie caught something from Gidget. He didn't think so at that time. He mentioned blood tests if this med didn't do the trick. Should I do that? We just went through $400 of tests etc for Charley and its worth every penny, but I want to rule out things in a proper order. So you don't think that he could be upset? Its more than that?
post #4 of 28
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Originally Posted by Rangerspouse
I will take him back today. I did bring them both in at the same time and I asked the vet if he thought that Hootie caught something from Gidget. He didn't think so at that time. He mentioned blood tests if this med didn't do the trick. Should I do that? We just went through $400 of tests etc for Charley and its worth every penny, but I want to rule out things in a proper order. So you don't think that he could be upset? Its more than that?

He could be upset or depressed. When i first brough my kitten, Murphy, home he had an URI I took him to the vet 4 meds, I also asked about my resident cat, ChiChi (16) and her catching the uri, he was'nt too worried about her since she had all her shots etc... But she caught a mild case of it just a little watery eye,and slight sneeze for about 2 days and yes she was a little "down" but she did catch it. I don't think they are as succeptable as kittens though because their immune systems are more mature, but it is possible for them to catch it, especially if they use the same litter box, food and water bowls. Now my vet did'nt run any blood test, so that decision would be up to you. Do you trust your vet? Have you been seeing them for a long time? If not, there is nothing wrong with a second opinion but he does need to be re-evaluated by a vet. Has he eaten anything?????? If not when was the last time he did?
post #5 of 28
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I don't know when he ate last. I leave out free choice food. I see the new little one eating from her bowl, but Hootie usually eats when the kids aren't around. Until I started to worry about the vomitting being more than just a hairball that wasn't surfacing, I wasn't really looking to see if he was eating. To my knowledge, he hasn't eaten since at least yesterday late morning.
I do trust my vet. I've only lived here 6 months (burden of the frequent military moves), but I do like him. He treated my dog for his eye and then he was wonderful with all the help with Charlie. I don't think he'd do things just to do them and make money. He did almost everything for free with Charlie since he was "a Charlie Brown special" (that's how he got his name. Dr says that what he calls nonadoptable senior cats! haha) He is well known at the rescue center and highly recommended.
post #6 of 28
I would read this post if you get a chance http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/sho...666#post971666 hopefully this isn't the case but it's somewhere to start.
post #7 of 28
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Originally Posted by lizch6699
I would read this post if you get a chance http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/sho...666#post971666 hopefully this isn't the case but it's somewhere to start.

He is at the vet's now and is on a drip IV. He is dehydrated. Blood work is being run so we'll see. He also asked if he'd nibbled on any houseplants. I only have 3 plants and he's never touched them, but maybe one of the other kitties showed him the fun? I see no evidence - no mess, no torn leaves. We'll see what the vet comes up with.
post #8 of 28
How worried you must be! I do hope that all is sorted out very soon.
post #9 of 28
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Originally Posted by jennyranson
How worried you must be! I do hope that all is sorted out very soon.

Hootie is back from the vet. The blood work showed an infection and low potassium (probably from vomitting). They gave me 2 pills to give him and he immediately threw them up...........................I can't win! He was foaming at the mouth. The tech said its from one of the meds that tastes really bad. My heart is so heavy! A simply infection, yet he still isn't eating or drinking and obviously the vomitting hasn't stopped. He goes back at 9 tomorrow.
post #10 of 28
Is there anyway they can give him meds through the iv? It seems like that would be easier. I hope he gets better ASAP.
post #11 of 28
Is there any chance your kids could have fed him something? Maybe you could ask them if they gave the cat something. There just a million things that can go wrong.
Well, were wishing you the best!
post #12 of 28
Please feel better soon, Hootie.
post #13 of 28
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Hootie had a very liquidy stool with mucus and a little blood on top last night. I called the vet and he said for me to bring him in early this morning while they were in surgery and they'll get him taken care of for today. They will put him back on IV, get his medications in (and hopefully down) and with fingers crossed get him to start eating. Hoot did sleep with me last night, but I know that he hasn't had anything to eat or drink. I even tried to give him a little water with the syringe plunger, but it only upset him. Please please say some prayers to make him get back on track. Thanks to all of you who took the time to write me. It makes it easier to have someone to chat with about it. My husband is currently in Korea and even though we've emailed all week, I didn't want to upset him about the cat - especially after losing Charlie only 2 weeks ago. He comes home tonight.
post #14 of 28
has the vet checked for cociddia?
post #15 of 28
Good health vibes and prayers for Hootie!!
post #16 of 28
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Originally Posted by bengalbabe
has the vet checked for cociddia?
Exactly what I was going to say, bring in a stool sample asap. Especially since you've been bringing in kittens from a shelter. Shelters harbor a ton a diseases (IMO) and I made the mistake of not having my kitties checked by a vet before I brought them home.
post #17 of 28
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I haven't asked him about that. Hootie was not able to come home last night. I went to pick him up and we didn't make it out the door before he threw up all the food they had forced that day and his meds again. The doctor is suggesting a second opinion and maybe taking him to Texas A&M. He is only 7, and he's been perfectly healthy up until now. If that's the case I guess we'll try. He is a part of our family and certainly we'd do it for one of our kids, but its just a huge strain on us. The military doesn't exactly pay us with a lot of wiggle room. I wish I could be assured its curable if we do that. After losing Charlie only a few weeks ago, we are emotionally and financially drained.
post #18 of 28
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Originally Posted by Rangerspouse
Hootie is back from the vet. The blood work showed an infection and low potassium (probably from vomitting). They gave me 2 pills to give him and he immediately threw them up...........................I can't win! He was foaming at the mouth. The tech said its from one of the meds that tastes really bad. My heart is so heavy! A simply infection, yet he still isn't eating or drinking and obviously the vomitting hasn't stopped. He goes back at 9 tomorrow.
Did your vet check the cat's kidney function? If a cat eats something toxic, it will cause foaming at the mouth.
post #19 of 28
I'm so sorry about Hootie. It must be frustrating to not know what is causing this. We all hear you about the vet expenses, Maybe you can ask the University if there is anyway to work out a payment plan with them. I hope he recovers soon
post #20 of 28
Hi! Having just been thur (october) 2 senior cats getting sick, vomiting
and refusing food, dirreah the works (turned out prob. bad chicken) -
I can relate.

Is the drug they gave him Flaggyl? (sp!!) That stuff is both
bitter and nasty!! It will make them foam and is hard
to give in pill form. I belive it comes in liquid form.

I always request my antibios in liquid form, then
use dropper or syringe to get down.

Faster and easier. I use a bit of butter after ward on the lips, or I give cream. Usually this works, although some antibios made my old Didi vomit -
at one point ALL he could handle without vomit was Baytril (I think
that's a form of penicillin BTW).

In case of extremity - back to vet for an IV / shot of
antibios - then home again.

In any case, I managed to get my cat to the ripe old age of
16 w/ many a digestive problem along the way - so if he
can only do a few days of antibios - please don't worry as
much - it will resolve on its own -
UNLESS the infection (if he has one) in the GI tract is bad.

And you will know after 4 days or so. If 4 days go by and he's
still no better - back to vet. That's my rule nowdays.

If you want more details re: drugs/antibios I will be happy to
share, just PM me.
post #21 of 28
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Hootie was given a pill that was very bitter and was most likely the cause of the foaming. He is still at our vets and being force fed. I should hear something again today, but he will probably have to stay for a while. We will discuss the next course of action after we get him over this hump - just keeping down some food and meds. We will head to the school next if no improvement. THank you thank you everyone for writing and trying to help. I'll ask the vet about the kidneys - it probably would have shown up in the blood work, right?
post #22 of 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rangerspouse
Hootie was given a pill that was very bitter and was most likely the cause of the foaming. He is still at our vets and being force fed. I should hear something again today, but he will probably have to stay for a while. We will discuss the next course of action after we get him over this hump - just keeping down some food and meds. We will head to the school next if no improvement. THank you thank you everyone for writing and trying to help. I'll ask the vet about the kidneys - it probably would have shown up in the blood work, right?

depends how deep the vet went in the blood work most wont until it is a seniour kitty or you ask
post #23 of 28
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Hootie is doing better. Thank you to each of you for showing concern and all of the help. He has been eating on his own and drinking water, but they say he still doesn't drink enough yet. He is staying for the rest of today and hopefully I will pick him up tonight. Thank you thank you for talking me through this! I'll let you know when he gets home.
post #24 of 28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rangerspouse
Hootie is doing better. Thank you to each of you for showing concern and all of the help. He has been eating on his own and drinking water, but they say he still doesn't drink enough yet. He is staying for the rest of today and hopefully I will pick him up tonight. Thank you thank you for talking me through this! I'll let you know when he gets home.

Hootie is home!!!!!!!!!


He has to go back daily for his meds, but that's a quick stop in. He was eating last night and drinking so I think we are good! We are having an issue with the new kitty and Hootie's arrival home, but I think I'll ask about that in the behavior section. New kittty, Gidget has had the house to herself for 4 days now and thinks she's in charge. Hooties a bit intimidated. What can I do? I locked her up in a room for a bit last night so at least he'd feel comfortable enough to eat. She just wants to play I think - she chases him, but she seems to be scaring him.
post #25 of 28
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If you have read my posting in the Health section, you would know that Hootie, my siamese boy of 7 years has been at the vets for about 4 days for vomitting, not eating, etc. Never quite narrowed down the problem, but he suspects it could have been a bug or plant he ate (No more indoor plants now!). Anyway he's back and is seems do be feeling much better.
But here's the deal. We adopted a new kitty Gidget (about 1-2 yrs old) last Saturday. Hootie and she were together for a couple of days until Hootie got sick. While he was gone, she'd had the run of the house and has definately built up her confidence. I truely think she wants to play (she used to chase him before with no problem), but Hootie seems a bit scared. I don't want him afraid and I want him to somehow become "top cat" again. Any suggestions? I did put her in a room (w/ appropriate kitty stuff!) for a while last night so that Hoot could eat without fear. He HAS to eat and drink.
post #26 of 28
I'm sooo glad Hootie is home! He will certainly be in my thoughts until he is fully recovered. He doesn't need stress interfering with his recovery. If I was in your situation, I would separate them until your judgement tells you he is feeling spunky enough to stand his ground. I know that Gidget may not mean any harm , so make certain that you give Gidget some loving and play time with you.
post #27 of 28
she may be a alpha cat ... but I would try vanilla under noses .. it is likely she forgot his smell and vise versa ...
post #28 of 28
Sorry, but you can't choose who's going to be "top cat" -- that's something they'll decide between themselves.
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