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The Da Vinci Code - What if??

post #1 of 15
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We're watching yet another documentary about the book The Da Vinci Code, and whether or not it has any basis in fact. It is an interesting concept, I'll give it that. And The Da Vinci Code, a work of fiction, is not the only place you'll find that theory. There are works of non-fiction that purport the same thing.

But what it really got me wondering is this: If it were proven (I mean beyond a reasonable doubt proven, DNA or something...) that it IS true, that Jesus married Mary Magdelene and they had a child that created a continuous bloodline that still exists today, what affect would it have on Christianity and The Church? Why would it be such a bad thing? Or would it be a bad thing at all?
post #2 of 15
hm...i havent finished the book! but i do love it..and even though the story line/characters arent real - its so good when i read it i just pretend its all real! lol. i am not into religion at all after some of our family tried to make up convert to a specific religion after my dad died - if that specific bloodline existed today that would be crazy...i am open to certain concepts and ideas..i dont see why it would be a bad thing at all...but im not all keen on churchy stuff, lol. so i dont know...good question tho!
post #3 of 15
I have been thinking about this since Dogma....and I love the thought.
post #4 of 15
Dan Brown's web site has some great stuff- and while no one can really know whether the two were ever married, the Jewish scholar Josephus certainly mentioned Jesus' siblings so there are possibly relatives out there somewhere. Whether he himself fathered children we do not know - or it was not recorded. The Gospels are so cryptic and all have differences (One of my best friends is an OT and NT scholar and we discuss this all the time, I find it fascinating!) - so they are not historical documents. The early Church indeed incorporated so many of the myths from other religions. My friend - who is a Roman Catholic nun - is fond of pointing out that following the Ten Commandments does not necly make one a good Christian - it does mean you are an observant Jew however.

Like many who have read prodigiously in theology, I take issue with much of the Pauline work - since Paul had his own agenda (didn't they all, lol) - tho I love toe quote Galatians 3:28 for my own reasons, <g> I always thought the Sermon in the Mount is prob the best mission statement for anyone who professes to be a Christian - not in the sense of the mission in the religious congregation sense you understand (can you tell I have a convent education, lol?)

I also love to point out to folks who argue against the ordination of women in the Catholic Church that if we listen to the literal stuff, then only Jewish male fishermen would qualify to be Priests in the Christian Church. Christianity of course iseasily the most suvcessful of the many Jewish sects og that ear - I am also fascimnated by the Dead Dea Scrolls (and other work of the Essenes). And there has been much work about the role of Mary Magdalene much before Dan Brown came along.

There is also a great article in an old issue of America (US Catholic theological journal) called "Blame it all on Constantine" - and it points to how this ruler used Christianity for his own purposes and changed it almog the way. (If you are near a univ or theological school library, the article was printed in maybe 1975-76?) - and the archives may also be online if you have lexus nexus, even google may do it for you,

Brown's book is a work of fiction but it does promite intriguing debate!
post #5 of 15
If it were true .... would anyone believe it? You'd get whole gangs of professors on each side, fighting over whether it were true or not. It would be the same if Jesus returned to the Earth, would anyone believe that either?
post #6 of 15
Has anyone read Holy Blood, Holy Grail? Good book, kind of dry. The Da Vinci Code is based on much of the same info, but is written in a much more interesting story type book.
post #7 of 15
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...books&v=glance
Who has read Kathy Reichs's "Cross Bones", in particular her notes in it?
post #8 of 15
The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail is the best nonfiction work on the subject, though there are several books on the Cathar sect in medieval France and on the Templars that throw more light on what some people believed then. But does it matter? If you believe in Christ, you believe he was human as well as divine, and in my opinion that should include sexuality. If you don't believe then it is all a good story.
post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by jcat
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...books&v=glance
Who has read Kathy Reichs's "Cross Bones", in particular her notes in it?
Yep, finished reading it last Friday. I found it dry reading but shes one of my favourite writers.
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by CyberKitten
the Jewish scholar Josephus certainly mentioned Jesus' siblings so there are possibly relatives out there somewhere.
altho, if one believes Jesus's father was God, they would only be half-siblings.
post #11 of 15
now after talking to a few friends and learning more about the whole 'what if' i think it would be way super cool - i would prefer to have that be real than what some believe now lol.
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by jennyranson
The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail is the best nonfiction work on the subject, though there are several books on the Cathar sect in medieval France and on the Templars that throw more light on what some people believed then. But does it matter? If you believe in Christ, you believe he was human as well as divine, and in my opinion that should include sexuality. If you don't believe then it is all a good story.
That's pretty much what I thought about it too. According to the Bible, he is God, but he is also human. What is more human than loving a woman and marrying her? It wouldn't make him any less of a divinity. But there were all kinds of protests of the book (once it hit the Best Seller list, of course, since there weren't protests of the non-fiction books that put forth the same theory with more veracity than a fictional novel). If I remember right, even the Pope said that good Catholics shouldn't read the book. I guess I can understand why the Catholic Church would be against it - if marriage and marital relations were OK for Christ Himself, it would make their policy of nuns and priests being celibate rather moot. And it may force them to rethink their stance on women in the Church, though not necessarily. But for the average Christian, I don't see why it would be such a bad thing?
post #13 of 15
Just my opinion here folks.

I think the Son of God had a little more important things to do in his life time than get married.

He was out there sacrificing himself so we can have eternal life.

I believe he was above those earthly desires such as sexual desires.
post #14 of 15
My opinion here - we cannot say what Jesus was doing for sure. It is only perfectly natural if he had sexual desires - that is one of the most basic instincts in humans.
post #15 of 15
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Originally Posted by valanhb
But there were all kinds of protests of the book (once it hit the Best Seller list, of course, since there weren't protests of the non-fiction books that put forth the same theory with more veracity than a fictional novel).
i think there were more protests against Brown's novel because it was more widely read. according to what i've heard [documentaries, etc] the non-fiction books were not well-known except by people interested in the subject.
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