Food without peas?

plebayo · Dec 1, 2005

I am THIS

close to going RAW or homemade. Even if it runs me into the hole and I have to live in my horse's stall... this has to be settled.

So... Addiction food trial was going wonderfully, until now. He's scratching his face again, more so than before. So it's back on the z/d we go. This is SO frustrating! I just don't know what to do!

The only thing I can think, besides a possible protein allergy, is that all of the foods [except for the SD Kitten] that he reacted to has had Peas in it. IVD Duck & Pea, IVD Venison & Pea. The Addiction, Unagi & Seaweed contains peas. Their Brushtail and Veggies also contains Peas, so there's no point in trying it.

At this point, I don't think it's a protein allergy, as there is no common protein between these foods [that I can think of]. The only thing I can think of would be peas.

Any help or advice? Is there any other food out there that's good for cats with allergies? I am so tired of this, it's got to suck to have an itch that you can never control [which is what he has]. I feel so helpless.

I'm 100% sure he didn't get into anything, he may have hopped on the counter and licked a raw chicken this morning, but he's been itching since a few days ago.

I'm really at my wits end. Any other Duck & pea is out of the question [Natural Balance, etc]. I have no idea what to do.

pat · Dec 2, 2005

I am so sorry

I had hoped the addiction one would be the answer.

At this point, I hope someone else may know of a food, but all I can think of (besides directing you back to your vet) is to use a just meat canned food - either one of the wysong ones, or evangers game meats - these are labeled for dogs, but they contain nothing but the game meat and broth, and you could, with consulting your vet, supplement appropriately. The wysong line does not include a protein that you haven't tried (as I recall) but the Evangers offers two that I think would be unique - pheasant and buffalo.

Evangers site is click here for evangers game meats page

laureen227 · Dec 2, 2005

Originally Posted by Plebayo

So... Addiction food trial was going wonderfully, until now. He's scratching his face again, more so than before. So it's back on the z/d we go. This is SO frustrating! I just don't know what to do!

ok, i'm new to your food problems, but i have a question...are you sure it's an allergy? the only reason i'm asking, is that Pixel's herpes manifested as facial sores & she was rubbing her face a lot. then it spread to her front paws... now, when she has a flare-up i give her a lysine supplement & that dries up the sores. just an idea, if you've already tried/check on this, nevermind. if not, i can give you a website where you can purchase a cat-lysine supplement, or you can buy capsules in a health food store & add them to wet food [if you baby will eat wet food - Pixel won't].

solaritybengals · Dec 2, 2005

I feed my kitties raw food. If you are willing to try it, it really is worth it to their health, especially if you are already experience allergy problems. Its not to bad to prepare and there are quite a few users groups to help if you are interested.

sharky · Dec 2, 2005

Originally Posted by Pat & Alix

I am so sorry

I had hoped the addiction one would be the answer.

At this point, I hope someone else may know of a food, but all I can think of (besides directing you back to your vet) is to use a just meat canned food - either one of the wysong ones, or evangers game meats - these are labeled for dogs, but they contain nothing but the game meat and broth, and you could, with consulting your vet, supplement appropriately. The wysong line does not include a protein that you haven't tried (as I recall) but the Evangers offers two that I think would be unique - pheasant and buffalo.

Evangers site is click here for evangers game meats page

Talk with the vet about dog , my kidney girl get dog food a few times a week, flavors are different and Nuera avail at petco here has a few grain free...

Raw or homemade is also good if you can..

solaritybengals · Dec 2, 2005

If you do decide to go the dog food route then look into getting a taurine supplement ot add in then it should be fine to add to teh diet.

sharky · Dec 2, 2005

Originally Posted by SolarityBengals

If you do decide to go the dog food route then look into getting a taurine supplement ot add in then it should be fine to add to teh diet.

Amazingly most upper end dog food s now contain taurine( I still supplement but vet said dog food was good if it had it)

solaritybengals · Dec 2, 2005

Originally Posted by sharky

Amazingly most upper end dog food s now contain taurine( I still supplement but vet said dog food was good if it had it)

Wow I didn't know that. I knew that was the main difference between the foods. But if they are suppmenting now thats pretty good. Of course I always thought dog food would have an even higher amount of veggies since they are omnivores but if it dosen't again thats pretty good food.

hissy · Dec 2, 2005

seen this?

http://www.bluebuff.com/products/cats_adult.shtml

squirtle · Dec 2, 2005

Originally Posted by hissy

seen this?

http://www.bluebuff.com/products/cats_adult.shtml

Dori ate this food for a couple of days when I couldn't make it to the pet food store to get her Merrick. She loved it. You can buy it at Petsmart.

hissy · Dec 2, 2005

I got some the other day- was asked to take a look at it. The cats love it, and I have to say I am pleased as well.

pat · Dec 2, 2005

Originally Posted by hissy

seen this?

http://www.bluebuff.com/products/cats_adult.shtml

Yup, I've taken a good look at it when a couple of folks asked me about it. I did try some of the canned this past week, unfortunately, no go with my guys. Sigh!

pat · Dec 2, 2005

Originally Posted by sharky

Amazingly most upper end dog food s now contain taurine( I still supplement but vet said dog food was good if it had it)

The thing is re the Evangers Game Meats - labeled for dogs, it is not a complete food for dog or cat, since it is simply meat with no added vitamins or minerals. Hence my saying it would require supplementation (which includes Taurine).

ashleynicole · Dec 2, 2005

I also don't know what all you have tried and have not tried, but here is my 2 cents! I know you mentioned you've thought about a protein allergy, and pea allergy. What about wheat allergy? My dog thats with my parents right now has a wheat allergy. We give her some type of Natural Balance (I think) that is venison and is wheat free, and her itching got MUCH better. Just an idea, you may have already looked into to, and some of the foods you've already tried could have been wheat free, I dont know. Good Luck!

sharky · Dec 2, 2005

Originally Posted by AshleyNicole

I also don't know what all you have tried and have not tried, but here is my 2 cents! I know you mentioned you've thought about a protein allergy, and pea allergy. What about wheat allergy? My dog thats with my parents right now has a wheat allergy. We give her some type of Natural Balance (I think) that is venison and is wheat free, and her itching got MUCH better. Just an idea, you may have already looked into to, and some of the foods you've already tried could have been wheat free, I dont know. Good Luck!

it happens to be venison and green pea ..

ashleynicole · Dec 2, 2005

Originally Posted by sharky

it happens to be venison and green pea ..

Ohh, woops! Sorry! Good luck still, hope you find something to help you kitty feel better.

bloob & valo · Dec 2, 2005

Hi,

Would this work for your kitty? It's freeze-dried formula from Wysong. It's called Archetype (not the Archetype Buffet or Archetype Burgers). http://wysong.net/Merchant2/merchant...roduct_Count=5

INGREDIENTS:
Beef and Chicken; Beef and Chicken Liver; Ground Bone, Milk Calcium, Fish Oil (Preserved With Mixed Tocopherols), Coral Calcium, Organic Mung Bean Sprouts, Organic Quinoa Sprouts, Organic Millet Sprouts, Organic Blueberries, Organic Apples, Plums, Chlorella, Barley Grass, Wheat Grass, Dried Whey, Kelp, Dried Seaweed, Artichoke, Direct Fed Microbials (Dried Enterococcus faecium Fermentation Product, Dried Bacillus subtilis Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus plantarum Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus acidophilus Fermentation Product, Lactobacillus casei Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus lactis Fermentation Product, Dried Saccharomyces cerevisiae Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus oryzae Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus niger Fermentation Product), Natural Extractives of Rosemary, Natural Extractives of Sage, Choline Chloride, Ascorbic Acid, Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Calcium Pantothenate, Thiamine Mononitrate, Copper Proteinate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin A Acetate, Folic Acid, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement.

plebayo · Dec 2, 2005

Thanks to everyone who replied. I really appreciate the information and support!

I will look into everything you guys have suggested. But first, he will need to be on the z/d until his allergies calm down [the scratching stops]. Once it stops, I will be adding peas to his z/d. [Hopefully he'll eat them, maybe I'll have to do baby food LOL] anyways, if he's allergic to peas, we'll know. Then I'll be able to make a food choice from there.

It just sucks because the z/d makes his poop smell REALLY bad, and gives him diarrhea. I hate it. He had really good stools on the Addiction. Like, normal stools.

Again, thanks you guys

jcat · Dec 3, 2005

I'd be inclined to say try the Evanger's game meats. I'm not familiar with the brand, but a friend here has a 3-year-old female who is allergic to just about everything, and she's doing well on an Italian brand of cat tuna and herbs, which I rather doubt is available in the U.S., called GreenFish. She gets the kind without the rice. http://www.greenfish.it/english/index.htm

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