Can you help identify this breed?

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Hi guys, I was wondering if you could help identify this breed of kitten?
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Irene


 

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without more info like breeds of parents .. domestic longhair??

Those babies are cute as can be
 
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Cheers, Sharky.

Thing is, my sister bought them from a pet store and they were advertised as purebreds *cough*. Im just suspicious and don't think she got what she was told.
 

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There is no such thing as a 'purebred', I don't think. They must be 'purebred Siamese' or 'purebred Persian' or whatever breed. And they must have papers to be recognised as such. They are very cute though! And I am sure they will make lovely pets. Has she taken them to a vet yet?
 

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If she bought them from a pet store as "purebred" then they would have given her pedigree/registry papers which clearly identified their breed, color and gender. If no such documents were received, then she should go back to the pet store and question them about it.

Edit to add:

That now being said, a lot of pet stores will host rescue adoption events in their stores. A lot of those rescue organizations will inappropriately label a cat as a certain breed simply because they look ~like~ a certain breed ... are you certain she actually purchased these kitties or did she perhaps pay an adoption fee?
 

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Originally Posted by jennyranson

There is no such thing as a 'purebred', I don't think. They must be 'purebred Siamese' or 'purebred Persian' or whatever breed. And they must have papers to be recognised as such. They are very cute though! And I am sure they will make lovely pets. Has she taken them to a vet yet?
Actually, the term "purebred" is commonly but mistakenly used to describe cats of unknown ancestry. For example: If one's sire looked like a Siamese and one's mother looked like a Siamese, then the kitten must be a "purebred" Siamese. Right? Wrong.

The term purebred is used in animal husbandry to describe any cat that breeds true. In other words, a pointed cat whose ancestry contains only pointed cats and who will produce ONLY pointed cats is a purebred. But a pointed cat who possesses little ancestry of pointed cats and who will produce both pointed and non-pointed cats is not a purebred. Just because it walks and talks like a duck doesn't always mean it is a duck. One must possess a breed-specific ancestry and always produce consistant offspring to be accurately termed a "purebred".
 

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People who are not actively involved in breeding cats or any other animals will go by Webster's definition of the word.

Purebred: bred from members of a recognized breed, strain, or kind without admixture of other blood over many generations

This is why so many people use the term to define a breed.
 
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I thought they looked like a mix as well.

She bought them from Pets Paradise, and I assume they called them "purebred" so they could charge more. You don't get papers regardless of the animal when they come from Pets Paradise, which is why I was wondering what the kittens actually are. I hang out on an australian dog forum and have heard many stories of pet stores lying about the animals they are selling and making people pay more for a purebred dog without any kind of papers. So yeah, I was just curious


She was told they were purebred himalayans. When I saw them my first thought was that, while they were gorgeous, they didn't look purebred to me.
If they aren't, I think she should go have a word with the pet store. I think she spent around $600aud for the kittens and a few supplies.
 

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Cute kittens - just mixed breed longhairs. But the one on the left looks like a blue cream tabby (some cream spots) and the other is a blue tabby.

Sister and brother?
 

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Purebred Himalayans have points like Siamese. These for sure are not Himalayans! They are cute ..But I doubt that they are pure bread anything..If I were your sister I would go back to the pet store and demand some type of refund..
 
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Thanks guys.

I don't know that my sister would want to hand the kittens back, though. She could try to get a partial refund I guess. Pet stores can be so shifty.

GoldenKitty, they are brothers
Apparently a lady bought their sister while my sister was in the store so she didn't want to split these two up


What's a point? Is that like points on the ears? *scratches her head*
 

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they are cuteous kittenous!

i doubt that the are pure bred anything. nonetheless they are adorable!!
 

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Points mean the coloration is darker (or different than the body) on the eats/head, feet, and tail. Classic pointed cat is the siamese. Himalayans have the body and fur length of a persian, color of a siamese. So you would be looking for a smooshed face, white/cream body with pointing on head feet and tail.

I don't think she should have to give back the kittens (afterall they are very cute!!). But you could call them out for lying and would be willing to spread the word about them if they don't give a partial refund.

Afterall there was a "verbal agreement" and that has been broken on their part.
 
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Yeah they are pretty gorgeous, rather shy though
 

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Then it must be a bit of dried food on the paw/chin/face. Looked a little like cream spots - that's why I asked.

Himalayans are pointed cats - color on the ears, face, paws and tail with a white/cream color body (depending on point color).

What did your sister pay for them being "purebred"? If several hundred dollars, I'd get a partial refund and ask them to PROVE they are purebred (with papers) if charging that much. If she paid around $50 that's reasonable for a mixed breed from a shop.

I hope you've talked to your sisters about buying from pet shops. Next time she should adopt from a shelter or Petfinders then to patronize pet shops. Also more then likely those kittens came from a "kitten mill"!
 

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Mixed longhairs, not Siamese for sure - they have no blue eyes for one thing and they do not have the typical meezer body. They are cuties but maybe mixed with a purebred of some kinf a domestic long hair.
 
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