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post #1 of 28
Thread Starter 
What's up with this guy?!

http://www.nbc10.com/irresistible/5249481/detail.html
post #2 of 28
That guy is really trying to stir the pot eh??

I believe that there need to be stiffer fines and punishments for repeat offenders but that's crazy!
post #3 of 28
Interesting suggestion. I can only imagine the kinds of illegal activities he's involved with. I wonder what he'd have to have cut off if he were caught!
post #4 of 28
Oscar Goldman is a former Mob lawyer and expect he learned these techniques from his former clients.
post #5 of 28
Can you say Unconstitutional? I think that's a pretty clear cut violation of "Cruel and Unusual Punishment." If the opponent were using his head for more than a hat rack he could have used that argument. Hehe, besides the fact that his counter argument is wrong...cutting off the thumbs of taggers would make a difference - you can't hold a can of paint without thumbs. You would at least cut down (no pun intended) on the number of offenders in short order.
post #6 of 28
Hey, I live here and I love Oscar. He is a colorful Mayor for a colorful city.
We think he is great here. Gotta love this old west frontier justice.
Cut their thumbs off. Ha ha, I think he is hilarious.
That kid that is 17 years old that got caught for this and his parents also are going to be very sorry this ever happened. Oscar is going to make an example out of them and it is about time.
I am sick to death of all the tagging in this city.
413 KNOWN gangs with over 6,000 members. Go get 'em Oscar.
post #7 of 28
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Originally Posted by esrgirl
Interesting suggestion. I can only imagine the kinds of illegal activities he's involved with. I wonder what he'd have to have cut off if he were caught!
lol, my thoughts exactly!

If I didn't care so much about how precious life is (with all appendages included), it would be an interesting social experiment, though.... j/k

How weird.
post #8 of 28
Thread Starter 
I don't know....if they want to start chopping appendages off of criminals, they should start with pedophiles!
post #9 of 28
i dount he really intended to cut anyones thumbs off, but by saying such contraversial things he has increased public awareness of the issues threefold.

i think he's a clever, if eccentric, man.
post #10 of 28
Anyone remember the case of the American teen who was caned for vandalism in the 1990s?
post #11 of 28
I wish the LV Mayor would come to Cincinnati & be Mayor! And yeah I agree with old-West style justice, bring it back & bring it over here!
post #12 of 28
I don't think this is what I'd want my tax dollars going towards, I mean, what does one pay a "whipper" or a "thumb-cutter-offer"? It can't be cheap because you wouldn't want them to mess up, think of that press!

Grafiti's pretty ugly, but it is a non-violent crime at least.
post #13 of 28
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Originally Posted by stormy
I don't know....if they want to start chopping appendages off of criminals, they should start with pedophiles!
Now there is the best idea I have heard in a LONG time.
post #14 of 28
This guy sounds like he'd be right at home in Saudi Arabia.
post #15 of 28
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Originally Posted by Vibiana
This guy sounds like he'd be right at home in Saudi Arabia.
Very succinct!
post #16 of 28
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Originally Posted by esrgirl
Interesting suggestion. I can only imagine the kinds of illegal activities he's involved with. I wonder what he'd have to have cut off if he were caught!
Huh? I must be dense, I do not understand where this post came from or what it means.
I live here, he has been and is a good Mayor. Do you know something about him that I don't?

If you are alluding to his criminal lawyer past and the clients that he represented, aren't we all deserving of due process?
post #17 of 28
Sadly, the crime rate in Saudi Arabie is, probably, much lower than here.
Such is the price we pay for freedom.
post #18 of 28
I think it sounds like a great idea!! Because unfortunately people start with small crimes which lead to bigger ones...But maybe a pinkie finger instead - You are a big useless without thumbs!!
post #19 of 28
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Originally Posted by bumpy
Anyone remember the case of the American teen who was caned for vandalism in the 1990s?
Vaguely. Was that Malaysia or Singapore?
post #20 of 28
Singapore. And I was glad it was done. You can't go to another country and be an a*hole, and expect not to have to pay the price for that. The little jerk was egging and I believe spraypainting cars. He got what he had coming to him.
I think if the penalties for crimes in this country were a little more unpleasant than jail (3 meals a day, cable tv, workout facilites), people would think a bit before they went out and commited a crime. I hate seeing graffiti and stuff. A nearby town that I go to had a really badly tagged train viaduct. So a school class painted a nice mural on it, and now there's tags painted all over it again.
Maybe if people knew they were at risk for a public caning for doing something stupid like that, they wouldn't do it.

Amber
post #21 of 28
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Originally Posted by fatkitties
Singapore. And I was glad it was done. You can't go to another country and be an a*hole, and expect not to have to pay the price for that. The little jerk was egging and I believe spraypainting cars. He got what he had coming to him.
I think if the penalties for crimes in this country were a little more unpleasant than jail (3 meals a day, cable tv, workout facilites), people would think a bit before they went out and commited a crime. I hate seeing graffiti and stuff. A nearby town that I go to had a really badly tagged train viaduct. So a school class painted a nice mural on it, and now there's tags painted all over it again.
Maybe if people knew they were at risk for a public caning for doing something stupid like that, they wouldn't do it.

Amber

I believe that young man continued his crime wave and is in an american jail as I type.... We arent a third world uncivialized country ... I think the mayor is out of it or trying to copy sheriff Joe Arpio of Maricopa county in Phoenix Arizona ...
post #22 of 28
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Originally Posted by ckblv
Huh? I must be dense, I do not understand where this post came from or what it means.
I live here, he has been and is a good Mayor. Do you know something about him that I don't?

If you are alluding to his criminal lawyer past and the clients that he represented, aren't we all deserving of due process?
I was just making a joke. Around most parts politicians are known, how ever much in jest, as being visitors of prostitutes and all around cads- it was just a joke! Don't worry! I suppose I could have been more serious and brought up the Lord's Word on casting the first stone, but jokes are more fun.
post #23 of 28
I agree that something needs to happen to deter criminals, as there is not enough going on now. I have always agreed with pedopedophiles and rapists getting their business chopped! Punishment fits the crime... I really don't think that cutting their thumbs off for such a small crime would be good, but i think beating them may be a bit more fitting, especially as most are a bit younger... if you whoop the crap out of someone for doing something they tend to not do it again, atleast without thinking first. It's like slapping a kids hand when they are young, they learn from it. Just my opinion though!
post #24 of 28
I will never ever think that violence is an acceptable way of trying to fix a problem.

But I was thinking.

Maybe I *could* get behind beating crooked politicians and white collar corporate criminals. Grafiti artists are nothing piddling compared to people who lie to and steal from the public.
post #25 of 28
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Originally Posted by fatkitties
Singapore. And I was glad it was done. You can't go to another country and be an a*hole, and expect not to have to pay the price for that. The little jerk was egging and I believe spraypainting cars. He got what he had coming to him.
I think if the penalties for crimes in this country were a little more unpleasant than jail (3 meals a day, cable tv, workout facilites), people would think a bit before they went out and commited a crime. I hate seeing graffiti and stuff. A nearby town that I go to had a really badly tagged train viaduct. So a school class painted a nice mural on it, and now there's tags painted all over it again.
Maybe if people knew they were at risk for a public caning for doing something stupid like that, they wouldn't do it.

Amber
I agree. Great post.
I think the sheriff in Arizona is wonderful also.
DO people think that it should be allowed to happen, how would you like tagging all over your house. Are we supposed to just let people do whatever they want. Freedom carries with it responsibility and there are alot of people that can't accept that.
I don't like my city looking like a garbage dump and I think they should come down HARD on them. Maybe we should take a lesson from the "3rd world countries" IMO
post #26 of 28
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Originally Posted by sharky
I believe that young man continued his crime wave and is in an american jail as I type.... We arent a third world uncivialized country ... I think the mayor is out of it or trying to copy sheriff Joe Arpio of Maricopa county in Phoenix Arizona ...
Perhaps because he knew the penalties weren't as stiff over here? Hard to say without knowing him personally, though. We may not be an uncivilized third world country, but many of our citizens act as though we are! People just astound me with thier total disregard and lack of respect for the law.

Amber
post #27 of 28
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Originally Posted by ckblv
I agree. Great post.
I think the sheriff in Arizona is wonderful also.
My only issue with what the sheriff in Arizona has going on is that many of the people in that jail have not been convicted of anything yet. I firmly believe that you should have all of your rights intact UNTIL you are convicted of a crime, in which case you then should lose all of your rights (seems kinda contradicitve to disregard the laws you don't want to follow, then expect to have the protection of other laws; you can't pick and choose which laws to follow, or that you want followed). So I like his idea, but I think only those convicted of a crime should be in that jail.

Amber
post #28 of 28
Ya gotta lover America, it seems like it is the only place in the world where
no one ever has to be responsible for their actions.
Let's all just live in a big garbage dump.
The older I get the more cynical. Sad.
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