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post #1 of 20
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ANOTHER TEACHER SEX CASE

Another Bay area teacher is accused of having sex with a student. This time in Citrus County. Amy Lilley works at Lecanto High School. Detectives say she admitted having a relationship with a 15 year old girl. The relationship began in August, and included numerous visits by the teen to Lilley's home in Beverly Hills. Lilley is now charged with lewd battery on a child under the age of 16.


What in the HELL are these teachers thinking?
post #2 of 20
These folks have serious "boundary" issues...the teachers AND the students. Of course more blame rests with the teachers, though, for instigating or giving in, which ever the case may be. Either way, it's sick.... Put 'em in jail...they'll do it again.

Teenagers may look like adults but they are obviously not, and you'd think that of all people a teacher would understand that and not attempt to have an adult relationship with one!
post #3 of 20
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Originally Posted by DixieDarlin256
What in the HELL are these teachers thinking?

Heh.. they aren't, that's the problem.
post #4 of 20
I don't get it either.

Right out of college, at the ripe age of 22, I taught high school. The Seniors were only maybe 4 years younger than me, and of course there were good looking kids in that school. But even just 4 years younger than me, that's how I thought of them - KIDS! There was no way I was attracted to any of them in any way because they were my students. Having been there and done that, I really really don't understand how these people cross that line.
post #5 of 20
Is this something new or has this always been going on and we just didn't know it? It seems like their is a new case every week or so. We have more than one case of this going on right now where I live that hasn't even made the national news.
post #6 of 20
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Originally Posted by ckblv
Is this something new or has this always been going on and we just didn't know it? It seems like their is a new case every week or so. We have more than one case of this going on right now where I live that hasn't even made the national news.
Now that you mention it, we've had quite a few in the news here lately too, although the local ones are male coaches cavorting with their young female team members. Those don't make the national news, just the perverted female teachers.

Anyone remember Pamela Smart? She wasn't a teacher, just a teacher's aide, but her affair with a young teen lead to the murder of her husband. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamela_Smart
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post #8 of 20
Oh, there were 2 in the Tampa Bay area making the news today.

http://news.tbo.com/news/MGBJ1UK4JFE.html

Teachers are not saints; they are people. And like all other people, some are not as good as others. Damn the individuals, not the group.
post #9 of 20
Sheesh! I didn't like teenaged boys, when I was a teenager!
post #10 of 20
See, I don't really see a MAJOR issue with it if the kid in question is an of-age college kid or graduate student, although, you know, it's probably best to wait until after finals. It makes me (and lots of pther people) squirm uncomfortably a little, but I don't see it being anything to dredge up legal action over.

Heck, I happen to be seeing a TA! (Don't worry, we were dating looooong before he got his assitanceship and I REFUSE to be in one of his classes)

But when these kids are in high school....give me a break! Teachers take on a whole different role when kids are young...there isn't that adult/adult thing...it's a kid/adult thing! There is more authority involved, there is a demand of respect involved and there are parents still legally and emotionally involved! How STUPID can you possibly be?? In the long run, you know 4 or 6 or even 10 years is not a big deal in relationships, but when it's statutory rape, then we have a problem.
post #11 of 20
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Originally Posted by katl8e
Sheesh! I didn't like teenaged boys, when I was a teenager!
I am confused by this remark. I notice that you specifically mentioned "teenaged" boys rather than the wide category of persons of opposite sex/males or that you were not interested in a romantic relationship at all. Does that mean that when you were a teenager you were attracted to adult males or grown men?
post #12 of 20
I've seen a lot of this in the news lately. The girl whose lawyers said she was too pretty to go to prison comes to mind. She is pretty, and looks like a normal person, but it's not normal to find children sexually attractive, IMO. The older I get, the older "kids" get. I'm 26 and I would consider an 18-year-old to be a kid. I don't think I could date anyone younger than 24.

The whole "s/he's mature for her/his age" thing is sickening. They're children! I don't care how old they act or look! I knew someone who was intimate with a 12-year-old girl when he was 21 because he "thought she was 16" because she "looked older and said she was." I think he should have been arrested. I talked to her when she was older (which is when I found out about it through him because he was a friend) and she admitted that she was sexually abused when she was younger and that's why she was sexually active at such a young age. I think people who REFUSE to see the truth are just as bad as people who know.
post #13 of 20
It's not really that uncommon. Two of the girls I went to highschool with married their teachers upon graduation, after having had "Secret" relationships for a couple years prior. I think they're both married still, and this would be maybe 10 yrs later.. I don't think it's rates the same as rape or murder but I think that it's probably not the best thing to do..
post #14 of 20
I just don't get it
post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by bumpy
I am confused by this remark. I notice that you specifically mentioned "teenaged" boys rather than the wide category of persons of opposite sex/males or that you were not interested in a romantic relationship at all. Does that mean that when you were a teenager you were attracted to adult males or grown men?
hmmmm. I think I knew exactly what she meant when I first read it but may be wrong.. I had the same sentiments at that age! I didn't date teenage boys but rather uni students or those who had graduated already...
post #16 of 20
One of my colleagues (40) married a former student of ours (32) three years ago. She graduated from our school six years ago, and while I'm sure there was some "attraction" between them at the time she was a student, they didn't get together until a year and a half after her graduation, in part because he was involved with somebody else when they met, but also, according to him, because it wasn't proper for him to get involved with someone "dependent" on him regarding grades. I've been teaching over half my life, and while I have to admit that I definitely like/am closer to some students more than others, a teacher has to remain objective, which, IMO, isn't possible if you're romantically/sexually involved with a student. Such a relationship can be just as exploitative/improper as a boss/subordinate relationship. If the object of your affection is under the age of consent, it's just plain criminal.
post #17 of 20
I lived in New Hampshire in the Pamela Smart time and I was appalled at the distrust this episode engendered in the school kids there.

It's like kids today have no one to trust, not parents, not policemen, not teachers, not tutors, not doctors, not dentists, not firemen, not polititians, not therapists, not other governmental figures; and we wonder why our kids are off the walls.
post #18 of 20
See, I was like loveysmummy. Sure, I did date boys my own age, but I was always attracted to "older" men (still am). I didn't like how teenage boys seemed to be totally clueless about interpersonal relationships. In general women tend to be better at empathizing with others, and we generally mature faster. So, when I was 14 I was more interested in the 18-25 bracket. Girls like me recognize we want more maturity in a male, but aren't mature enough ourselves to handle it alone even though we think we are at the time. An adult male OUGHT to realize that however much a girl "seems" more mature, and even in some respects may BE more mature, it isn't mature enough to handle an intimate relationship with an adult. Period. The adult in question needs to decline to form any kind of relationship until the girl/boy is the age of consent, OR only agree on the condition that any encounters between them are fully chaperoned by the young person's parents (that, BTW, is how my parents dated until my mom was 18, because my father was several years older than she).

So, to clarify, I think it is a completely bad idea for an adult to have a sexual relationship with a young adult (past puberty, but not yet the age of consent). This is especially true if you are in a position of authority over them, like jcat said. But, I don't think it is a perversion by any means, not like having a sexual relationship with a child (hasn't hit puberty, or is still in the middle of the major changes of it).
post #19 of 20
I remember my senior year in English class these guys were making fun of another guy (star football player, top of our class, attractive guy) for NOT sleeping with any teachers!!! Half the time I didn't want to believe the stories I overheard but unfortunatley I bet they are true.
post #20 of 20
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Originally Posted by katl8e
Sheesh! I didn't like teenaged boys, when I was a teenager!
No kidding! There is something wrong with the teachers who do this. Makes me want to throw up.
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