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post #31 of 46
It's not an issue for me, since declawing (+docking and cropping) is thankfully illegal here. When I first heard of declawing, I couldn't believe it was for real . If I lived in a country that accepts this IMO barbaric practice, I would feel bad supporting a declawer financially; given the choice, I'd definately opt for the non-declawing vet.
post #32 of 46
I don`t think there is a vet in our town who does`nt "no" I would`nt not go to a vet just because he or she does that procedure....just as long as they don`t do it to MY CATS!
I wish it were totally banned in the US as it is in Australia too.
post #33 of 46
I do believe that a lot of people (or at least I HOPE) would NOT declaw if they knew that it was`nt just pulling their claws out ,(as I thought for years) but actually amputations of the ends of their "fingers"....or if they realized how terrible painful it is after the procedure...or the possible long term effects....but I don`t think a lot of vets actually explain this. (I`m sure some do....but some just do it when asked, and explain nothing!)
post #34 of 46
Originally Posted by Petnurse2265
Unforntunately there are alot of shelters that are not like that, and the cat ends up living in a cage with no end in site.
That's what happened to my Spike, before my boyfriend and I adopted him. At four months of age, he had been returned to the Humane Society four times by previous owners who felt he was too "rambunctious." He was a kitten, for crying out loud! And our local Humane Society is over-worked, under-staffed, under-funded and under-appreciated. The cats there live in small cages, and while the volunteers there try to ensure that each cat gets some play and social time, some cats are bound to fall through the cracks. I certainly don't blame the folks at the Humane Society for how the animals there live; they do their best, with the very limited resources available to them. If I could take all the cats home with me, I would.
post #35 of 46
I wouldn't refuse to go to a vet that performed it. I would hope that he would discourage owners from having their kitties declawed.
post #36 of 46
I'm not sure if my vet declaws or not - but I go under the assumption that it's practiced by at least one of the 6 vets at the office. However, there is no information about it posted anywhere in the office, but they have a section about it on their website that lists alternatives.

All 3 cats I have every had have been declaws, done by previous owners. The first two cats had been dumped at shelters; the third was surrendered by an elderly lady with 14 other cats. They were/are wonderful loving cats, and there are SO many declawed cats out there that just get dumped since many declaws have problems afterwards, that I will probably only every adopt declawed cats for the rest of my life. They deserve the same loving homes as other kitties! Rather than declawing a cat, since there are tons who have already had it done, it just takes a little searching to find one of these special kitties.
post #37 of 46
If I liked the vet, that would not stop me from using him. I don't agree with declawing (unless you've tried EVERY thing else and will keep the cat no matter what happens), but that doesn't mean you shouldn't use him/her.

Whenever I take a cat in for neuter/spay I make it very clear to NOT declaw. I've had some offices say "you want the cat declawed too?" without me even hinting at that. I don't like that "pushing" for declawing to make more money.

I usually tell them "NO declawing, this is a show cat and show cats can't be declawed"

One thing I recently noticed in looking at apartments (for our sons) was that some places allowing pets put a "restriction" on cats having to be declawed in order to be accepted!
post #38 of 46
I think it depends on the circumstance. Some ppl live in areas where there may be one vet in a 100 sq km or mile radius. And it's helpful to have one close. Mine does declaw if it is medically necessary and soes not offer it just as an aside. Not sure I would patronaize someone like that but I would ask them why and get some explanation before making a blanket judgement.
post #39 of 46
No Never!
post #40 of 46
To me, a vet is a vet because they love and care for animals. In the same way as a scientist loves science or a teacher loves children (ok maybe not loves children but loves teaching children!).

I personally would have a problem with taking my cat to a vet that performs declawing. They may be a perfectly capable and competent vet, but at least in my opinion not necessarily a humane one.

I would find another vet that is competent and loves and cares for animals and does not perform declawing. Fortunately I don't have to make the decision, since as mentioned above it is illegal in Australia to declaw. Also I live in a metropolitan area so have a large choice of vets in my area. Can understand and respect those that do not have a choice of vet however.

Also while I'm on the soapbox (pardon me for a moment) - a cat is an animal, not an accessory. It's not like a burger where you can order one without pickles (or claws). Cats come as a whole package deal, if you don't like claws then don't get a cat.

Just my opinion
post #41 of 46
Originally Posted by Kai Bengals
Maybe someday the USA will follow that lead.
What? The most self-centered, me-me-me, convenience before compassion-oriented nation on this big earth outlaw declawing? It will never happen. Putting our furniture first is part of our culture. Perhaps this is why we are loathed by the rest of the world, but I digress.

I'd love to find a vet who refuses to do declaws. Unfortunately, that's almost impossible to do. At this point, it's more something that I talk friends and family out of doing, and those that HAVE done it, I make sure they know that they've mutilated their cats and that they shouldn't ever do it again. As for wanting to see cats go to a good home and declaw then stay at a shelter...I'm only speaking for the shelters around here (of which, I only know of one kill shelter, which is the city pound, but I'm sure there are more somewhere) but most of ours are clean, compassionate and progressive. Many of them are completely cage free (unless the cat has a non-chronic condition which requires isolation, in which case, the cat wouldn't be doing much running and climbing anyway. Cats with say FIV or Herpes are kept in cageless room with other cats with the same chronic disease). These shelters, while still stressful, I'm sure, are extremely homelike, and I'd love to see a cat spend 3 years hanging out there before finding a home then have him or her immediately be adopted and declawed. But again, this is an ideal situation.

I had a conversation with my boyfriend last night about signing a lease that requires a declaw or getting a cat when your lease requires a declaw. I told him I'd never do it and if the landlord demanded it, I'd present what I know and hope to change her mind or compromise on softpaws (which, hey, even diabetics or hemophiliacs could use), or I'd break my lease. Simple as that. He thinks I'm crazy, but I asked him if he'd rather break a lease or drive me to the hospital to get the tops of my fingers cut off. To me, it's the same thing. I don't really see my fingers as being more valuable than theirs, and to do so in the name of health and convenience is totally despicable to me. And I'm a professional flutist! Pain doesn't really distinguish between species the way we have chosen to do in this country.
post #42 of 46
I don't believe in declawing, but would not hold it against the vet. I guess they're a business, like any other one, and customer satisfaction is important to them to keep their business going...
post #43 of 46
My vet does declaw, but only if requested. They educate owners about the procedure first. I don't know if they apply soft paws, but they do offer nail trimming.
post #44 of 46
Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45

Whenever I take a cat in for neuter/spay I make it very clear to NOT declaw. I've had some offices say "you want the cat declawed too?" without me even hinting at that. I don't like that "pushing" for declawing to make more money.
See, that is the sort of thing that would cause me to take my business elsewhere without a second thought. I can live with it if a vet performs declaws. I am not okay with a vet that treats it like something that is as routine as s/n and vaccines. That's where I draw the line.
post #45 of 46
Someone suggested that a vet hospital is a business "like any other" -- implying that it is therefore acceptable for a vet to offer declawing for the sake of his business's profitability.

I respectfully disagree. There are some professions that are NOT like any other, professions which absolutely must be practiced with INTEGRITY FIRST, and profitability somewhere farther down on the list of priorities. That's a principle our ultra-Capitalist society has, for the most part, forgotten -- but we desperately need to reestablish it, particularly in the field of healthcare.

I can ALMOST accept the idea that if a vet cannot dissuade a cat's owner from declawing, he might choose to do the surgery himself rather than send the cat to a hack who could botch the job. But I cannot accept that any decent human being would mutilate a cat just for the income. Being a doctor (for humans OR animals) is a sacred trust, and people who don't recognize that don't belong in the profession.

Okay, rant over. Thanks for listening.
post #46 of 46
after reviewing some of the posts, its funny too see how the posts from people that live in countries where its outlawed vs. where there is no law against declawing. It would be easier for, say the US, to say "yes we would patronize that vet" if it were made illegal here.
Most people here get their cats declawed for cosmetic reasons. They're afraid their $3000 sofa may get scratches, or they're just too lazy to spend a weekend chasing their cats trying to get their nails clipped...or not confident enough to know where the quik is to cut.
All in all though, as much as Peta or any other animal rights group may fight, it won't be until the US economy is under control before a bill to outlaw declawing gets brought forth. Think about it: number of cats adopted + vets that charge $150-200 per declaw = a portion of revenue per vet. If we take that revenue opportunity away, some maybe many vets would either have to raise their prices for surgeries or office visits or may go out of business all together because they can't pay the bills.
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