What a jerk!

keith p

TCS Member
Thread starter
Top Cat
Joined
Sep 26, 2005
Messages
1,474
Purraise
4
Location
(Long Island) west babylon, New York
I was feeding the cat by the railroad, and the guy who lives next to it came up to me and got really mad, saying because I feed them they come in his backyard. He's like trap them dont feed them here anymore. (well as you all know if I trap it I have no place to bring it anyway, but I didnt tell him that)So then he told me he never wants to see me feeding them again. So I asked if the railroad is his property, and off course its not so he said no. So then I said well you dont own this place so what I do is none of your business, then he started to curse and said you better not feed them anymore I mean it.
Oh and when he told me this he had his huge Mastiff dog with him, then I saw him go by where i feed the cats, then he disspeared I guess went back home. He's been watching me I guess and he must not like cats either, I did see cats on his property though, but I guess there not his? He's creepy coming up to me like that who does he think he is picking on me, he should act more mature! If I knew that the cat would definetly have a home already and i knew I would have to come back, then I would have said some things to this guy and would have went back, but since I dont and dont want any trouble im going to stop feeding the cat, for the past 2 weeks I was gradually weaning it off my feedings to begin with and I was due to stop feeding permanetly 4 days from now anyway. I did manage to place a big cardboard box in a dry place for one cat to hide in, so thats good too.
I guess for the cats safety and my well being , it's best I dont feed them anymore, but he's not stopping me from passing by his house when I ride my bike on a nice day. I may not be feeding the cats anymore, but he will be seeing my face alot once it gets warm again. ha ha


edit: By the way across from his house is a huge forest where some cats live too, im not making the cats go into his yard, so if he has to complain he shouldnt have complained to me, do I control the cats movement? He should call the town up, complain to them if you must. I wish i told him off when I had the chance, he makes me so mad!
 

hissy

TCS Member
Veteran
Joined
Feb 19, 2001
Messages
34,872
Purraise
76
keith you should have numerous feral rescue places to contact to help you get these cats trapped and moved to a better location? Did Katie give you any links of feral cat rescues in your area?
 

furryferals

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
Oct 30, 2005
Messages
1,432
Purraise
4
Location
I'm not psychic,I just see through people
if i were you keith,i wouldn't bother about this bloke
,could you contact the owner of the rail road (not sure but cat may legally be their property)if you get their permission to feed the cats there is nothing this bloke can do,if he threatens you,you can call the police,if these cats are dependant on you feeding, it would surely put them at risk by stopping,and if this bloke is as nasty as he sounds how do you know he wont harm the cats after you stop checking on them?
if all else fails you could always go feed them on your bike,just dont stop,just put the food in an open top container and tip it out as you pass by,he would have to be sitting at the window all the time to see you drop it!!


best wishes and good luck
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #5

keith p

TCS Member
Thread starter
Top Cat
Joined
Sep 26, 2005
Messages
1,474
Purraise
4
Location
(Long Island) west babylon, New York
I am only there one minute he came up from behind me when I was feeding them. I told my dad and now he will be driving me there to feed the cat, if the guy starts my dad will take care of it, since this guy has no legal reason to make me stop. If this was his property or if I trespassed on his property then im at fault, but I did none of these so im not doing anything wrong. I have been trying to contact the town on the railroad, but got no responce. I'll try again.
 

furryferals

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
Oct 30, 2005
Messages
1,432
Purraise
4
Location
I'm not psychic,I just see through people
good on you keith and good on your dad too!!

bullies like that can't be allowed to think they have won,people need to stand up for what they believe in and defend the animals, after all they can't defend themselves against people like that,can they?,

i applaud you and your dad
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #7

keith p

TCS Member
Thread starter
Top Cat
Joined
Sep 26, 2005
Messages
1,474
Purraise
4
Location
(Long Island) west babylon, New York
I may have some bad news. Now I just heard that he can get the police involved since im feeding the cats, and they are going in his backyard looking for food. If im not going to keep them or get them checked at a vet, and he is bothered by them, then he could possibly get me in trouble with the law. I checked the laws and I cant get permission to feed them unless im willing to care for them too and get them ALL spayed/neutered. It doesnt matter that I was only feeding that one cat, according to the law im responcible for all of them, which is well over 5 cats. So either I stop or risk getting arrested or a fine. Hey i've been feeding them for 3 months so I gave it a good try, God knows I tried and i'm sure the cats do to. Sometimes you have to know that you cant always win everything, but at least I gave it a good try! Now if someone will keep the cat, THEN I have permission to go and trap it, and that guy cant say a word. If he threatens or harms a cat and I see or hear it, yes the police will be notified! Mabye I can find someone else to go and feed them, or at least someone to find a way to contact the town and tell them about the cats.
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #9

keith p

TCS Member
Thread starter
Top Cat
Joined
Sep 26, 2005
Messages
1,474
Purraise
4
Location
(Long Island) west babylon, New York
His house is to the left, and when you walk right about 100 feet, thats where the cats are. The railroad and his house are on the same road, But where I feed them isnt even near his house, so there not even my cats that are in his yard, but still to the law that wont matter. I tried feeding the cats in the forest because its very close to them, but they wont leave very far from the tracks. If they did I could have fed them in the forest, and he wouldnt even know I was feeding them then.

EDIT: the grass is an abandoned lot, thus it goes back far enough right next to his backyard fence. So they walk on the side of his house, since the grass is on one side of his house.m Homeless people also live there, and feed the cats, its not only me, but that guy still doesnt seem to care.

heres a pic diagram.

[_]ll[_]ll[_]ll[_]ll[_]ll{_}llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll[_____] (I feed here, no houses)
(his neighbors)

({_}= his house) (llll=grass) ([_____] =railroad)
 

furryferals

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
Oct 30, 2005
Messages
1,432
Purraise
4
Location
I'm not psychic,I just see through people
obviusly if you you find yourself banging your head against a wall then you need to get other help,it is the easy way out to walk away however upsetting for you,
if you can't get sanctuary help,maybe if you call around your neighbours ask them if they would be willing to donate to the trap,neuter,of these cats,if they cannot donate money,maybe they could collect aluminium cans for you to cash in,to help with the cost,
you don't have to 'do' all the cats in one go,
you could even get the little kids in the neighbourhood to collect cans at school,

i would be very cautious getting the local town hall involved,they might trap'n'put to sleep depending where you live.

please keep trying for the cats sake
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #11

keith p

TCS Member
Thread starter
Top Cat
Joined
Sep 26, 2005
Messages
1,474
Purraise
4
Location
(Long Island) west babylon, New York
I cant if I feed them he will report me, so even if I have enough income to feed all year, it wont help at all. I know calling the town sounds bad, but the only other option is walking away from this. If I TNR workers here then they could ahve helped me, but theres nobody here that does that themselves. Nobody cares about this lot, why do you think it is so overrun with cats, garbage filled, and has homeless people living there?
 

furryferals

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
Oct 30, 2005
Messages
1,432
Purraise
4
Location
I'm not psychic,I just see through people
dear keith

the doris day foundation does spay'n'neuter programs,i would think they would dedicate some funds and some human resources to help to alleviate this problem if they were made aware of the problem,

you could try e-mailing vick stevens she is the director of the programs you can e-mail to her at [email protected]

good luck
 

furryferals

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
Oct 30, 2005
Messages
1,432
Purraise
4
Location
I'm not psychic,I just see through people
they will have more contacts of people,volunteers,helpers,if they cant help they will know some one who can,

and after all doris is a wonderful person,she will have alot of famous contacts,who love animals and animal welfare,and one might just live near you!!!

nobody can help if they do not know about the problem

after all, i know about the doris day foundation and i live in England(over the pond)
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #15

keith p

TCS Member
Thread starter
Top Cat
Joined
Sep 26, 2005
Messages
1,474
Purraise
4
Location
(Long Island) west babylon, New York
Im also going to try and contact a place to clean up the lot, then mabye since they are an organization they will contact another about the cats. So I cant feed the cats anymore, but hopefully this organiztion will improve our towns wildlife, and mabye if they knew I was helping the cats,just mabye, I can Legally feed or setup homes for these cats, or make our town a cleaner place.
 

mercymanic

TCS Member
Alpha Cat
Joined
Oct 14, 2005
Messages
325
Purraise
1
Location
Quincy, FL.
I know you have tried contacting shelters in your area. You may have already tried all these but I wanted to post them anyway. Just in case. These are all shelters in Long Island or nearby that only kill VERY sick animals and are otherwise no-kill.

I hope someone will help. This man that is harassing you sounds like a real peice of work. I'm scared he might do something to hurt the cats. I know you are stuck in a really horrid situation. I don't want you to get into trouble just for caring about these kitties.

If you haven't contacted any of these shelters already, please do. If you have I'm very sorry. The only other thing I can think of is maybe starting a petition? Or writing your newspaper?

The Animal Rescue Fund of the Hamptons

Bide-A-Wee

KENT ANIMAL SHELTER

Little Shelter Animal Rescue and Adoption Center
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #17

keith p

TCS Member
Thread starter
Top Cat
Joined
Sep 26, 2005
Messages
1,474
Purraise
4
Location
(Long Island) west babylon, New York
Yeah i've tried them all, they are booked with cats and have waiting lists. Dont worry the guy knows I know where he lives, and his name, so he would be stupid to try something to those cats. He doesnt know my name,age, or where I live, so thats good. I think he might be crazy or just a cranky old man. Oh yeah and i caught him in a lie.

Him: Ever since you started feeding these cats, 5 have appeared in my backyard.

The truth: 4 months ago before i started feeding them, I asked HIM if anyone owned these cats, he said no, and said he has seen 3-4 around in his yard. what the guy doesnt realize is he admitted seeing them in his yard BEFORE I even got involved feeding them, which means they were there before, and he is just putting the blame on me to try and fix the cat problem in his yard, even though I have nothing to do with it!
 

mercymanic

TCS Member
Alpha Cat
Joined
Oct 14, 2005
Messages
325
Purraise
1
Location
Quincy, FL.
Ergh! Sneaky creep! Well, no matter what happens what you have been trying to do is wonderfull. It makes me very sad that your efforts have been blocked by fellow humans.
 

kathylou

TCS Member
Alpha Cat
Joined
Sep 30, 2005
Messages
417
Purraise
1
Location
Oklahoma
Realistically, there are people like that in the world and they can be very dangerous to you and to the cats. There are some positive ways to deal with that kind of person, but confrontation is not one of them. That only tics him off more, and he could take it out on the cats. Also, you are presenting a logical argument, and he is not acting on a logical basis. He is acting out of hatred, and the safest thing to do is to defuse the situation. Best for the cats I mean.

You have gotten a lot of possible organizations here. If those don't work, you may just have to back off so he doesn't constantly see you every day. Maybe then he will forget about the cats and find someone else to pick on.

In the wild, if there is a threat to the babies, a mother cat will lead the predator AWAY from the nest.
 

semiferal

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
Jul 15, 2005
Messages
1,890
Purraise
9
Location
in my apartment
You do have to get them spayed and neutered but I know you already know that. One thing you can do is make an appointment with the clinic - even if the appointment is months away. Keep the appointment confirmation (whatever they give you, even an email printout) to show anyone who gives you a hard time that you are taking care of them and they have a vet appointment.

In the short term, the most important thing to do is to feed them when he is not awake or around, whenever that would be. Early in the morning or late at night is probably best. Also, make sure to clean up after yourself and them. Feed a modest amount that you know they will consume in 20 minutes or so. Half a cup of dry food and 1/3 of a 5 ounce can per cat is plenty. For dishes, use something that will blend in with the surroundings. Some people use sheets of folded newspaper, which looks like ordinary trash once the cats are done eating. Then you can pick up the trash the next day. For water bowls, the black plastic dishes from takeout or frozen dinners work really well and aren't all that visible.

It's also a good idea to get a copy of the city code to find out for sure if these laws really exist. Sometimes people are threatened with prosecution for violating laws that are literally imaginary. It is important to know your rights and know that if there is no law saying you can't do something, then you are allowed to do it.
 
Top