Simple Yes No
Originally Posted by valanhb
Also, I can't vote in the poll because I don't see it as a simple Yes/No issue. Do I support it in this instance? Yes, because spending more than an hour in the bathroom over an 8-10 hour period is obviously just wasting time (unless there is a valid medical reason). But overall, I don't want my boss to know the number of minutes I spend in the bathroom on an average day.
Actually, I purposely made it a simple yes/no. And I specifically did not put an explanation for no because there could be a whole range of different reasons. It could be that a person is against it because it seems to demean the workers or they could be against it, even if believe workers spend too much time at the bathroom because they believe that such action even if they work in reducing time spent at the bathroom may have an overall negative impact on the business. And ultimately, the business have to decide on a yes or no basis, which is why it has to be a yes/no issue. Even if one seeks to decide on a case by case basis, that decision still requires the company to track the workers.Work Allocation
My personal belief is that as long as you do the work you are supposed to do that is all I ask for. Therefore I do not really care that the secretary spends the time surfing the net or on the phone chatting to friends or even regularly seem to take sick leave. All I am concerned about is if there is work, can she do it and is she willing to complete it. She knows when there is something big and would stay until the early hours of the morning or even come back for the weekends. Similarly, I did not recommend that we hire a person once her probation ended despite her always coming in to work and not spending time surfing the net because she was not willing to work with the team until 4 or 5 am when the need arises.Manager
Sometimes the Manager seems to be doing less work in the office but their value to the company may not be determined by the work done in the office. They may be tasked with bringing in the business rather than the doing of the office work.Unions
I should make certain observation about unions. While I generally feel that a company can do better without a union, I too am aware of the benefits they bring. Studies have shown that benefits at a work place with unions generally pay more BUT the productivity rate is higher in comparison to the other similar work places. Also while cost vis-a-vis benefits are higher, costs vis-a-vis other areas are lower. Furthermore, in places where the relationship between management and workers are good, a place with unions are more likely to discover problems earlier.
Unions have always been a reaction to the treatment by employers. Thus May Day or Labor, which is a day to remember the killing to striking workers in the US (ironically this day is not celebrated in the US.) Also the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire in New York, where over a hundred young female immigrants were burnt to death at the factory in part because the exit was locked to prevent workers from taking unauthorised breaks resulted in the growth of unions. Also that fire which was witnessed by Robert Wagner as he saw the girls jumping to their death to avoid fire, resulted in him pushing and succeeding in the passing of the National Labor Relations Act (Wagner Act). Therefore there is a phrase that states that: "You get the union you deserve."
My position thus is that if the employers are good, then it is more economically beneficial and more efficient NOT to have a union. If the employer can tackle the concerns of the workers without them resorting to a union that would save cost. But where relations between employers and workers are very strained, it may be more efficient, as studies have shown, to actually have a union in place.
Therefore before taking a position on the unions, it is necessary to understand the benefits and cost of a place with or without a union and from these evidence rather than anecdotal stories, form an opinion.