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Can I ask how can some breeders keep so many cats with out it smelling i just got 3 cats all purbreeds simaese and I have them in one bed room because we breed birds. But the room is big you can put 3 dubble beds in it and still have room. there is a bed in it and a T.V for them and toys and 2 litter boxs and 2 food dishs and watter dishe I clean the boxs 2-3 times a day mabe more if im in there as soon as they go I will clean it. But it still smells like cat.?? I spray I vacum 2 times a day I am useing Tiddielitter. I mean it not bad but you can still smell it a little I was just wanting to know how some breeders can have so many cats, I have 3 females and they all are going to have babys in nov. I dont know what im going to do. I am helping out another breeder that just breed like crazy i gess. so I plan on keeping the older cats and sell the babys mabe keep one. if I can find a way so it wont smell then ill keep more because i just feel inlove with this breed not meaning to loll. but they are just so lovey and want me so much. well thats it. any help
post #2 of 15
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Originally Posted by jacqueline19672
Can I ask how can some breeders keep so many cats with out it smelling i just got 3 cats all purbreeds simaese and I have them in one bed room because we breed birds. But the room is big you can put 3 dubble beds in it and still have room. there is a bed in it and a T.V for them and toys and 2 litter boxs and 2 food dishs and watter dishe I clean the boxs 2-3 times a day mabe more if im in there as soon as they go I will clean it. But it still smells like cat.?? I spray I vacum 2 times a day I am useing Tiddielitter. I mean it not bad but you can still smell it a little I was just wanting to know how some breeders can have so many cats, I have 3 females and they all are going to have babys in nov. I dont know what im going to do. I am helping out another breeder that just breed like crazy i gess. so I plan on keeping the older cats and sell the babys mabe keep one. if I can find a way so it wont smell then ill keep more because i just feel inlove with this breed not meaning to loll. but they are just so lovey and want me so much. well thats it. any help
At any given time we have 12 adults and at least a few kittens, but there was one occasion where we had 15 kittens. (2 huge litters). Our home and our cattery don't smell. Why?
First reason is we feed a raw diet. Much less eliminating and way less stink.
Second, we have 15 litter boxes now and they get changed twice a day.
Third, we have Ionic HEPA air filters with carbon inserts running 24 hours a day. These seem to snag any odors that could be present before the cats cover their business.
I can't stand the smell of cat urine, so we go the extra mile to keep things clean and odor free.
post #3 of 15
Most breeders here in NZ have catteries. In my cat room we currently have 3 cats loose in the room and our stud penned, I clean it every day but yeah it does smell.
post #4 of 15
I have 3 cats and want to keep my house smelling nice. I also do a raw food diet which helps. I use World's Best Cat Litter which makes cleaning the litter box easy, though I believe there are some cheaper brands that work well but I've been hesitant to try them. I sware having good litter makes a big difference because nothing is left behind.

I don't have that much smell at all but one of my girls I believe will be the type to urinate when she's in heat. So I've been recommended the pruduct Zero Odor from another breeder (zeroodorpet.com). She couldn't say enough about it, saying that you wouldn't know she had cats in the house. I can't say how well it works because I've just ordered some but their web site is very informative. Evidently its designed to be sprayed directly in the litter box as well. Its also not toxic so can be used in bird cages as well as around other small animals.

We also use arm 'n hamor baking soda for the litter box. This is the best to combat smell that I've used so far. I'm hoping Zero Odor works well too since you can spray it into the air.

I'd love to have an air filter someday but that won't happen anytime soon.
post #5 of 15
My cats have run of the house, we are very diligent about cleaning, and such and even have dogs everyone seems to say we have no odor
post #6 of 15
We've got quite a few cats, pets and breeding males and females plus kittens.
We feed only dry food (free feed) except with pregnant queens, and our males are in a separate area as well. So, the key.. CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN, and when we first bought the house, I built special enclosures for all the catboxes, so they are contained in a vented area so ANY litterbox odor (if there happenned to ba any) is power vented out of the house.
While I don't know the advantages/disadvantages to a raw diet, I do know that a good quality dry food will really cut down on the smell. Litterboxes are cleaned and sanitized daily, as is the rest of the cattery, and well, the whole house in fact.

hope that helps!
post #7 of 15
I'm no breeder, but is it ok to have 3 queens with 3 litters in one room? I thought new mommies needed to be separated with their babies at first?
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Originally Posted by Beckiboo
I'm no breeder, but is it ok to have 3 queens with 3 litters in one room? I thought new mommies needed to be separated with their babies at first?
3 queens and 3 litters would be almost impossible to clean up after, I think! The most I have ever done is 2 and I felt like I was cleaning 24 hours a day once the kittens were old enough to be out and about.
post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by Beckiboo
I'm no breeder, but is it ok to have 3 queens with 3 litters in one room? I thought new mommies needed to be separated with their babies at first?
Depending on the breed. If you have a well covered pen then they can't see the other Mummies anyway, and most queens are just focused on their babies I've found - (in my experience. I can only share my findings on the Persian & Exotic Shorthair breeds)
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by semiferal
3 queens and 3 litters would be almost impossible to clean up after, I think! The most I have ever done is 2 and I felt like I was cleaning 24 hours a day once the kittens were old enough to be out and about.
Don't you pen them or something? I've had four litters at one time at the most, and since my kittens are very clean they are a breeze to look after. I can understand how you would be cleaning all day if they weren't penned.
post #11 of 15
The most we've ever had at one time is 2, and will sometimes plan it that way if we have ANY doubt about a new queen (1st litter), sometime having 2 can be very helpfull.
In any event, our litters are kept seperate in the queeing pen until;

At least 8 days after thier first shots (6 weeks)
We know they are eating on thier own
They can use a regular covered litter box with no problems.

After that they come out with the rest of queens and there isn't a problem.
post #12 of 15
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Can I ask how can some breeders keep so many cats with out it smelling
While others may tell you of their own personal experiences, it has been my own experience that no matter how many times you clean an area, if that area is inhabited by animals, there will be an odor. It may smell clean for a short while after cleaning, but a house shared with animals is going to smell like those animals, no matter what you do.

There are products on the market which supposedly "take care of" those odors, but I am reluctant to use them due to the ingredients being unsafe or otherwise not indicated for use around animals.

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i just got 3 cats all purbreeds simaese and I have them in one bed room because we breed birds. But the room is big you can put 3 dubble beds in it and still have room. there is a bed in it and a T.V for them and toys and 2 litter boxs and 2 food dishs and watter dishe I clean the boxs 2-3 times a day mabe more if im in there as soon as they go I will clean it. But it still smells like cat.??
It sounds like a large enough room for 3 cats, but you should probably have at least 6 litter boxes in there and you should scoop out the solids in each of those boxes no less than every time you see solids in there. Completely change the litter no less than twice per week, or even better, more frequently.

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I spray I vacum 2 times a day I am useing Tiddielitter. I mean it not bad but you can still smell it a little
I have never heard of this type of litter before so I can't discuss it intelligently, but I use the Tidy Cats Multiple Cat formula. It does seem to help cut down on the odor a bit. What are you spraying? If you are vacuuming twice a day, are you remembering to throw away the old vac bag before sweeping again? The odors from the litter you are vacumming up are just pushed right back into the room through your vac's exhaust if you aren't changing the bag before you vacuum again.

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I was just wanting to know how some breeders can have so many cats, I have 3 females and they all are going to have babys in nov. I dont know what im going to do. I am helping out another breeder that just breed like crazy i gess.
Wait, you are helping out another breeder who is "breeding like crazy"? That doesn't sound good. Why would you want to help someone who is doing such a thing? Did you purchase these cats from her? Did she give them to you? How did this arrangement come to be? Did you get them from her already pregnant or how did they come to be expecting litters?

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so I plan on keeping the older cats and sell the babys mabe keep one. if I can find a way so it wont smell then ill keep more because i just feel inlove with this breed not meaning to loll. but they are just so lovey and want me so much. well thats it. any help
So, you will have 3 female adults and all of their litters - potentially they could have 4 to 6 kittens each ... that could be 27+ cats, with a chance of even more! Do you have the time and resources to care of this number of cats? If you think you have odor now, just wait til these babies are all using the litter too!

I'm sorry, but there is just something uniquely wrong with this picture. It is my opinion that you have bitten off way more than you can effectively and realistically chew here. I don't mean to be harsh, but I don't see this as a good situation for you or most importantly, for the cats, at all.
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by Beckiboo
I'm no breeder, but is it ok to have 3 queens with 3 litters in one room? I thought new mommies needed to be separated with their babies at first?
I must agree with Beckiboo here ... for the sake of good health not to mention safety of the kittens (Moms will interchange babies), I would think some sort of confinement would be the best option here for all concerned.

And you also might want to have a second room located as far away from the other one handy in case you get a URI or other reason to isolate a litter.

Wow, I do NOT envy you this situation.
post #14 of 15
I have actually seen Siamese Queens help one another with kitten care but I think it prob depends more on the indivual cats and the relationship they have with the other Queen. I still think you need to be cautious but even in the wild, Queens help one another - or at least that is my own experience in observing and caring for a feral colony. Others may have different experiences.
post #15 of 15
Cyberkitten, yes, queens can and oftentimes do help one another, but this isn't always the best for the kittens. In multiple litters, viruses and bacteria from infected kittens are passed to the other litters when they nurse. It is never a good idea to allow multiple litters to be interchanged between queens. Not only for health and safety, but it also makes it damn hard to know which kittens belong to which queen. If these females are pedigreed breeders and the sire(s) of these litters is also registered, then it would be impossible to know which kittens belonged to which queen for accurate registry.
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