Label reading question:)

This has been bugging me for a while... If a label lists by wt ( which they do by raw wt).... would you say one that says chn meal , grd rice, rice bran , br rice , rice to have one grain>?? two grains?? or more/??

It has one grain, but in four different forms, so you don't really know what the proportion is, do you? Sneaky way to get in a higher proportion of grains. It might even outweigh the chicken meal.

Originally Posted by coaster

so you don't really know what the proportion is, do you? Sneaky way to get in a higher proportion of grains. It might even outweigh the chicken meal.

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In all probability there is MORE of the grains than meat. Take a bet at almost any odds! This is the usual in those cases!. If not, they would wrote up the real meat in clear to prove it was the majority.

But observe, if they write meat bi-products, this sounds not fun, but is not so bad as it sounds. Bi-products may be in fact good food for cats. Especielly heart is very good. Only exception is liver: a little is good, but much no good, even harmful (too much A-vitamin dangerous).

Observe. It often stands feks 30% proteins. Sounds good. But if there is much grain, it means much of the protein is grain-protein, not meat or meat-biproduct protein.
Grain-protein is not at all so useful as animal-proteins...

By products may be different in Sweden here they are usually heads feet and woo knows what organs..

yes it is sneaky... but I was told that some of the companies that do it that way really are using less of one... I was just concerened since some were saying that was multiple grains..

Originally Posted by sharky

By products may be different in Sweden here they are usually heads feet and woo knows what organs..

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Thanks for response.

Yes, who says byproducts are always heart?? If not even the producer says it, there is very little heart - and most heads, feets and so on.

Still, when a cat eats up a mouse or bird the gall-bladder and the feathers is the only they leave.

They do eat both heads and feet. They better then pure grain, and contains some calcium too - which is very good if there is much proteins.

The Association of American Feed Control Officials (AAFCO) defines terms used in animal food production. An example of their definition of byproducts is:

Chicken By-Products consist of the rendered, clean parts of the carcass of slaughtered chicken, such as necks, beaks, feet, undeveloped eggs, and intestines -- exclusive of feathers except in such amounts as might occur unavoidably in good processing practices.

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Originally Posted by sharky

This has been bugging me for a while... If a label lists by wt ( which they do by raw wt).... would you say one that says chn meal , grd rice, rice bran , br rice , rice to have one grain>?? two grains?? or more/??

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It has one kind of grain but has 4 different versions of it - quite a hefty proportion of it since it has these 4 are in the top 5 most prevalent ingredients. This would not make me happy!

Originally Posted by sharky

By products may be different in Sweden here they are usually heads feet and woo knows what organs..

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the other problem here is the method of obtaining & processing those by-products. I don't care to have any sawdust, floor dirt or what have you included in the processing of something my cat is going to eat.

As I've said before, I'd have no problem if we were talking nice fresh body parts as in a whole mouse, but that isn't what you get here in the US when they state by-products

Keep in mind with by-products there are actually three levels of byproducts that can go into foods. and very few actually state which they use.

Lowest is feet,beak, feathers ect

medium necks and backs

high level, heart, liver lung ect