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post #31 of 48
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Originally Posted by ckblv
nope. McCain and Rudy
Rudi I could accept. He rose to the occasion.
post #32 of 48
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McCain and Guiliani could beat anyone the Dems put up. McCain is definitely a moderate and very willing to work with the Dems, but I can't see a bi-party ticket. After all, he did dismiss outright the notion of being a running mate for Kerry. The problem, once again, is that the wingers that control the nomination process, and McCain is not supported by the wingers BECAUSE he is moderate, and honestly because he can't be controlled by the Party.

And I can't see Hillary playing second fiddle to anyone.
post #33 of 48
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Originally Posted by valanhb
McCain and Guiliani could beat anyone the Dems put up. McCain is definitely a moderate and very willing to work with the Dems, but I can't see a bi-party ticket. After all, he did dismiss outright the notion of being a running mate for Kerry. The problem, once again, is that the wingers that control the nomination process, and McCain is not supported by the wingers BECAUSE he is moderate, and honestly because he can't be controlled by the Party.

And I can't see Hillary playing second fiddle to anyone.
As a tree-hugging hippie liberal, even I would be able to accept McCain as president. Wouldn't necessarily vote for him, especially if the Democratic nominee was especially good (though no one but Obama comes to mind) but I certainly wouldn't loathe him with the firey passion with which I loathe GWB.
post #34 of 48
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Originally Posted by lionessrampant
As a tree-hugging hippie liberal, even I would be able to accept McCain as president. Wouldn't necessarily vote for him, especially if the Democratic nominee was especially good (though no one but Obama comes to mind) but I certainly wouldn't loathe him with the firey passion with which I loathe GWB.
I agree completely, from one tree-hugging hippie liberal to another .
post #35 of 48
I don't understand what someone said, "bi-party", McCain and Rudy are both Republicans.
Never have figured out why Kerry wanted him as a VP
post #36 of 48
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Originally Posted by ugaimes
I agree completely, from one tree-hugging hippie liberal to another .
I third that on McCain.
post #37 of 48
Well, from what we see here in Australia I think Hilary has got a fantastic chance of being the next president - She's an extremely strong woman and obviously had a lot to do with Bill's success.

But it could be worse, it could be Arnie for president!!! Note: Are non-USA born citizens able to run for president or do you have to be born in the US to run? Thanks!
post #38 of 48
I think you have to be born in the USA to be president.
post #39 of 48
Yes, one has to be a natural-born US citizen, to become president. Recently, a movement has begun, to change our Constitution to allow naturalized citizens to become president. Amending the Contitutiion is a long, drawn-out process and this may never come to fruition.
post #40 of 48
Thanks for that! Well, at least you won't have Arnie for President!!
post #41 of 48
I woulf vote for Hillary
post #42 of 48
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Originally Posted by esrgirl
I doubt either of them would make it.
I agree!
post #43 of 48
If I had to pick between Hilary and Condi, I think I would just not vote.
Condi is part of the neocon crony group.
Hilary is trying too hard to appeal to the right wing.
I doubt either of them could get a nomination, regardless of their politics.
Sadly, the US is run by rich WASP males who are reluctant to give up their strangle-hold on power.

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Originally Posted by ckblv
I like men better.
I think I can safely assume that you mean in a leadership capacity, such as President.
Why?
post #44 of 48
I don't think either Hillary or Condi are presidential material. But I am sure Hillary will run. However, she is so shrill and unappealing. Her best bet is to lay low, and let someone else be front-runner, then step in at the last minute.

Barack Obama has a lot of potential, which is scary to me as a repub. He looks good, speaks well, and is definitely democrat, while trying to be moderate on some issues. I haven't followed him that closely, but from what I have seen, in 2012 or beyond, its possible he will be president. If not, at least he will be a viable black candidate (unlike Al Sharpton!).

Condi has shown no inkling of running, just rumors. I do think it would be justice if the only choice all the biggots had were Hilary or Condi . But hopefully we get some better choices!
post #45 of 48
*I'm* ready for a women president anyway, but not these two.

Hilary I find abrasive and I'm really not pleased with the whole nonsesense where she is sueing RockStar (Grand Theft Auto guys).

Condi seems to be an uncharismatic toadie as far as I can tell.

It's possible that with further research (I've done none) I'd change my mind on either of them, but this is how I feel now.
post #46 of 48
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Originally Posted by jane_vernon
Well, from what we see here in Australia I think Hilary has got a fantastic chance of being the next president - She's an extremely strong woman and obviously had a lot to do with Bill's success.

But it could be worse, it could be Arnie for president!!! Note: Are non-USA born citizens able to run for president or do you have to be born in the US to run? Thanks!
I love Arnold and think I would vote for him any day over Hil.
post #47 of 48
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Originally Posted by jane_vernon
Well, from what we see here in Australia I think Hilary has got a fantastic chance of being the next president - She's an extremely strong woman and obviously had a lot to do with Bill's success.

But it could be worse, it could be Arnie for president!!! Note: Are non-USA born citizens able to run for president or do you have to be born in the US to run? Thanks!

At this time, Arnold is not elligible to run for President, because you still have to be American born. However, he's trying to "Terminate" that law.

I'm from California, so Arnold is my Governor. He's not as bad as I thought he'd be. I'm a Dem, so I'm not a big fan of most Republicans, however he's OK as governor. I wouldn't want to see him a President though. On a side note, the one thing I like BEST about him, is that he is trying to seperate himself from Bush, and that's GOOD thing. I know he's not happy with Bush coming here and having a BIG fund raiser, just before Arnold has some bills he wants passed by the voters. He refused to attend any of Bush's appearance here in the Los Angeles area.

Maybe Maria Shriver, his wife, should run for President, she's as qualified as either Hilary or Condi, and I think she's more likeable.
post #48 of 48
I like the idea of two women running for Pres We have had a woman Prime Minister in Canada and Britian has had Maggie Thatcher and NZ has Helen Clark (think it's Clark but I am not sure).

However, if I were eligible to vote, I am not sure I would want either one of them. I'd like to talk to Hillary but she does seem to play opportunist politics just a tad too much for my liking, So I'd prefer some other woman for the Dems. But if it were between these 2, I would vote for Hillary. As Susan Estrich so eloquently said recently,. (paraphrasing)with all due respect to Condi Rice, she's never held elected office - never been through a campaign, never won a nomination. There ARE some good GOP women like Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe that I like.
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