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post #31 of 47
Cleo, a rescued momma who looked to be siamese body type,and was a torti color had 5 kittens.
A red tabby and white male, short haired, a red tabby male who was medium haired, a solid blue grey female, medium haired, a torti female, short haired, and a black and white male, short haired.
post #32 of 47
Mom is a DLH Calico with very diluted colouring if I remember correctly.I only got a quick peek at her and it was kind of dark.

Her 2 kittens were...

Male-Medium hair ,Cream with Seal/Chocolate points white mittens and blue eyes.He's a 16 pound rugged Boy.
Female-Medium hair,Calico with white mittens and yellow eyes.Shes not nearly as large.

Here are pics of the kittens...

http://www.geocities.com/jenavere/pics/Frankie3.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/jenavere/pics/Chloe.jpg
post #33 of 47
Valhalla, one of my favorite mommas at our shelter is a DSH blue tabby with big gold eyes. She weighs in at a little over 8 pounds.

She had 3 kittens in her last litter before her spay.

3 males, 2 solid black with gold eyes and one solid blue with gold eyes.
post #34 of 47
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Originally Posted by Melsa
Has anyone ever had a male tortie or calico? I know the odds are like 200:1 so I was just wondering because I've never seen one...
The odds are actually quite a bit less than that. Male cats can only have both black and orange fur if they have a specific genetic abnormality. Even if they have this abnormality, they are far from guaranteed to be calicos or tortoiseshells - most cats with this condition would actually not be calico or tortoiseshell. So it is very rare indeed, and not desirable because it does mean that the cat has a genetic defect. However, these cats can live perfectly fine lives as pets.
post #35 of 47
I'm about a month late here, but I've got a pretty strange litter I'd love some help with (if you're still offering!). Mom is a black domestic short hair, very thin/petite build. She had three kittens, who are only 6 weeks, but right now they look as follows:

1) male, med/long hair, black with white chin, tummy and feet, gold eyes
2) female, med/long hair, white with grey striped points, blue eyes
3) female, short hair, cream with seal points, blue eyes

Any thoughts to the mystery?
post #36 of 47
My sister had a male Calico boy when my daughter was only 9 months old.He was mainly white, but had orange and black on him.I can't upload pics, but could e-mail it to someone if they wanted to see him.
post #37 of 47
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Originally Posted by Andria313
I'm about a month late here, but I've got a pretty strange litter I'd love some help with (if you're still offering!). Mom is a black domestic short hair, very thin/petite build. She had three kittens, who are only 6 weeks, but right now they look as follows:

1) male, med/long hair, black with white chin, tummy and feet, gold eyes
2) female, med/long hair, white with grey striped points, blue eyes
3) female, short hair, cream with seal points, blue eyes

Any thoughts to the mystery?
Not an expert, but sounds like the dad was siamese, and the mom had a little more than solid black in her genes.
post #38 of 47
heres Maverick and Jupiter family tree. i got Maverick from a friend so can trace her family back a few generations:

Jupiters great grandma Puzzle: dsh tortoishell.

(puzzle's kittens) Jupiters grandma Zara and her brother and sisters: black dlh, long fluffy tail and small build (even the boy)

(zaras kittens) Maverick (Jupiter's mum): black dmh with brown tones, small build,long fluffy tail small delicate features. Maverick's brother charlie: black and white dlh

(maverick's kitten) Jupiter: black dmh with brown tones and slightly curly fur underneath, large build, fluffy tail, flatter features.

we think jupiter's dad was a large dsh grey tabby. large build.
post #39 of 47
Thanks... the cream one looks quite siamese. But I can't figure out the white one. Are there white siamese? None of mom's litter mates were white, or her mother. Could dad be a siamese/himalayan mix of some sort, and have passed siamese traits to one and himalayan traits to the others? Or two dads? Even the body types are different... the cream one is longer and slender, while the other two are fat, round, and poofy. So strange, but I think they're the prettiest kitties I've ever seen!
post #40 of 47
Andria, your cat sounds like she mated with more then one male - the colors/combos cannot be from one cat. Any solid white (not pointed) cat has to have a white parent. Pointed cats have to be from another pointed cat or both carrying the pointed gene. The pointed gene would come from siamese or himilayan (for different coat lengths).
post #41 of 47
Well the white one does have light grey lynx points, but that's not like any siamese I've ever seen. Would birth order give any clues? They were all born at the same time, and the odd little siamese one was born in the middle. Does this rule out the two-dad theory? (which is the one that makes the most sense)
post #42 of 47
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Originally Posted by Andria313
Thanks... the cream one looks quite siamese. But I can't figure out the white one. Are there white siamese? None of mom's litter mates were white, or her mother. Could dad be a siamese/himalayan mix of some sort, and have passed siamese traits to one and himalayan traits to the others? Or two dads? Even the body types are different... the cream one is longer and slender, while the other two are fat, round, and poofy. So strange, but I think they're the prettiest kitties I've ever seen!

Siamese cats are born white. what you're describing sounds like a lynx point siamese mix (some siamese have lynx points).
post #43 of 47
Oh, I didn't know that! She just looks so different from the other pointed one. You could tell at birth that one was cream and one was white. Plus the white one has a longer silky coat, while the cream one's fur is short, coarse, and fuzzy. Will she not stay white? Genetics are so fascinating! Thanks!!
post #44 of 47
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Originally Posted by Andria313
Oh, I didn't know that! She just looks so different from the other pointed one. You could tell at birth that one was cream and one was white. Plus the white one has a longer silky coat, while the cream one's fur is short, coarse, and fuzzy. Will she not stay white? Genetics are so fascinating! Thanks!!

She might. the points darken with age, and I believe temperature (not sure, bu I believe I read it here somewhere)

http://www.meezer.com/siambreed3.html
post #45 of 47
Thanks for the website! Her points do look like the picture of the lilac lynx point, but with darker nose and face. She actually looks a lot more like the picture of the Birman...darker, flatter face, thicker body, silky coat... and all the kitties have white boots. How pretty!
post #46 of 47
Hi Guys..this is an interesting thread..I really enjoyed seeing the pics of the mom cats and their kittens..so diverse and adorable.. Becki..I couldn't help but to fall in love with the pics of your cat and her kittens especially since she resembles my Patty who I believe to be pregnant. Is it possible for a cat's litter to have 2 dads? I'm so sorry for going a bit off topic but have been wondering for a few days..Take Care all and good luck on your lab Sandtigress
post #47 of 47
Hi, I am hoping someone can help me determine the father/s of my cats litter of 8.

This is Shenzi, she came to us as a very pregnant stray. I would call her hair 'medium' in length (longer on the tail):





She gave birth to:

2 males, long hair, orange tabbie (they are very similar, so I'll only post one pic)


2 males, short hair, black and white tuxedo (they are very similar, so I will only post one pic)



1 female, short hair, tortie (same coloring as mother)




1 female, long hair, black



1 male, short hair, dark tabby (black and gray):





and one female, long hair, I am thinking diluted tortie because while she is predominately grey tipped, with white underneath...she does have some cream/peach on her back and paw. She also has a white 'bib'. She has black stripes on her tail (like a raccoon, sort of) , but that is the only place she shows any striping. She is the one who changed the most since birth...she started out dark and then her hair just kept getting lighter and lighter. She doesn't even look like she belongs with this group, LOL. Here is a picture of her:



Most recently:




I would love to know what possible father/s sired them...

anyone have any ideas?
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