Oh my gosh - is this common!?!?

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Ha.. I totally would but today is my 2nd yr annniversary and I just told hubby we have exactly 12 minutes (well, that was 6 minutes ago) to celebrate. Hehe.


BUT, I really do want to chat with you - it's funny, I think just the same of you! I'm glad I have you and so many other wonderful people on here (and in my cat group) that are here for me.


Are you around this weekend? I'm actually home ALL day tomorrow. In-laws took the kids so we could have a day to ourselves!


Thanks again Katie!

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Tesha....you are definately an inspiration and a go getter. BTW....I'm available now if you feel like chatting.


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OMG I am in tears right now. In a nut shell PEOPLE SUCK! I mean I understand why these sort of things have to be done, but GEEZ!! People have a choice and a voice animals don't. I thank God for those of us strong enough to use ours for the benefit of those who can't... If we started doing this sort of thing to pregnant women oh can you imagine the riot that would cause!?!?! Our planet is already over populated and unable to provide in some places for the amount of humans occupying it... Why aren't we doing something about that!?!?!!? It's just not fair!
 

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BTW, if anyone has any information on how to get a similar program started here in Columbus, please share! We have become so lacadaisical (sp??) around here when it comes to animals!! It just rips my heart to shreds.
 

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Originally Posted by Amandaofcols

OMG I am in tears right now. In a nut shell PEOPLE SUCK! I mean I understand why these sort of things have to be done, but GEEZ!! People have a choice and a voice animals don't. I thank God for those of us strong enough to use ours for the benefit of those who can't... If we started doing this sort of thing to pregnant women oh can you imagine the riot that would cause!?!?! Our planet is already over populated and unable to provide in some places for the amount of humans occupying it... Why aren't we doing something about that!?!?!!? It's just not fair!
Let's not compare humans to animals. Again...you don't see humans being put to sleep because there is an overpopulation.

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Originally Posted by Amandaofcols

BTW, if anyone has any information on how to get a similar program started here in Columbus, please share! We have become so lacadaisical (sp??) around here when it comes to animals!! It just rips my heart to shreds.
Here is a list of feral cat organizations in Georgia:

http://www.alleycat.org/orgs.html#ga

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Originally Posted by xomycatsxo

Ha.. I totally would but today is my 2nd yr annniversary and I just told hubby we have exactly 12 minutes (well, that was 6 minutes ago) to celebrate. Hehe.


BUT, I really do want to chat with you - it's funny, I think just the same of you! I'm glad I have you and so many other wonderful people on here (and in my cat group) that are here for me.


Are you around this weekend? I'm actually home ALL day tomorrow. In-laws took the kids so we could have a day to ourselves!


Thanks again Katie!
I'm meeting my mom for lunch but will be around tomorrow evening and Sunday.


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Originally Posted by TNR1

Again...you don't see humans being put to sleep because there is an overpopulation.

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To be quite honest, sometimes I think we should, but again that's just my opinion!
 

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Originally Posted by Amandaofcols

To be quite honest, sometimes I think we should, but again that's just my opinion!
I understand...but that isn't the case. Believe me, I wish that we could spay/neuter every feral before they even had a chance to become pregnant and I wish that all adoptable cats had a chance to enjoy a long happy life in a home. But I know the reality...and I will continue to do what I can in order to help feral cats and domesticated cats.

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BTW, thank you for the link. I just checked it out, and as I figured, there aren't any listed for Columbus. The only things we have here are Animal Control, PAWS, and the HUmane Society, but I feel there should be more, as there isn't a high level of "protection" for animals. Sorry I can't think of a better wording.
Also, I did not mean to step on any toes with my first comment on this subject. It's just that I get really emotional when I hear of things like this. People can help the situations they are in (for the most part) animals can't, some of them depend on us for there safety and survival.
 

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I also understand the reality of the situation, I just get really frustrated when I think about it. I was mostly venting, again, sorry if I stepped on any toes. My emotions tend to run away with my fingers when it comes to this sort of thing...
 

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Originally Posted by Amandaofcols

I also understand the reality of the situation, I just get really frustrated when I think about it. I was mostly venting, again, sorry if I stepped on any toes. My emotions tend to run away with my fingers when it comes to this sort of thing...
Amanda....I understand completely...you didn't step on my toes at all. Here is what I would do....get in touch with No More Homeless Pets Atlanta and see if they can help you:

http://atlantapets.org/lifeline.zz?this=63

You can also contact local vets to see if they are aware of anyone who is doing TNR as individuals. Oftentimes there are people who are conducting TNR..but don't have an organization.

Remember...it just takes one person to change things for the better for feral cats.

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Thanks so much. I will most definitely!! I do know we have an Allied Cats of Columbus, so I'm going to contact them to see what we can do. Thanks again for your help and also for listening to me vent!
 
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Hi there!


I'm sure Katie (TNR1) would refer you to Alley Cat Allies.. you can see if there are any TNR groups in your area on their site. Sometimes if you do a google search w/ keywords like "TNR Feral Cats Columbus" you can come up w/ something. Actually, the way I was in touch w/ my group was joining the NH Animal Rights League and networking with them.


Let us know how it works out.


I do know what you mean.. your message was basically saying 'why can't we treat animals like we do humans'. People who torture and kill humans are punished severely.. yet when it comes to animal rights (I'm not referring to the spaying while pregnant) in general.. the animals really don't have many rights. It's sad but the best thing we can do is keep doing the dirty work and see the forest through the trees. I say that now but I know this rescue work is going to change my life forever. Like I mentioned (and others) - there are some HARSH, HARSH realities to this kind of rescue work- I think a lot more than meets the eyes. A lot of people just turn a cheek and pretend it's not real - I wish I could but I care too much, so if it means my heart being broken, then so be it because I know, in the end, that I will have saved thousands of lives. I know it will be rewarding but I'll definitely need a support system along the way!

It's really late so I don't know if I just made sense w/ what I was trying to say.
What it comes down to is overpopulation should be taken a lot more seriously. There are a lot of threads on here about this.. so take a browse.. you'll see a lot of people wanting to fight to get tougher laws when it comes to spay/neuter, etc.


Ha, I'm going to bed now before I really just babble and say things that don't even make sense.


Have a good night.. you too Katie!


Originally Posted by Amandaofcols

BTW, if anyone has any information on how to get a similar program started here in Columbus, please share! We have become so lacadaisical (sp??) around here when it comes to animals!! It just rips my heart to shreds.
 
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Okay- I have the answer to it all!!!

Put to sleep the ones who commit animal cruelty... they're not needed/wanted on this earth anyway!


Okay, I'm way too tired!!! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Originally Posted by Amandaofcols

To be quite honest, sometimes I think we should, but again that's just my opinion!
 
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I know with the group I am with now.. they didn't want to be listed w/ ACA's ... ONLY because we are so swamped as it is. I convinced her we should because we can possibly get volunteers out of it as well. We are so overwhelmed w/ a 'To Be Trapped' list that we can't even fathom getting more calls about more colonies that need to be rescued.

So definitely check w/ your vets, shelters (stuff Katie suggested) - as well as the google search. There could very well be someone right down the street from you that just isn't advertising!


Good luck!

Originally Posted by Amandaofcols

BTW, thank you for the link. I just checked it out, and as I figured, there aren't any listed for Columbus. The only things we have here are Animal Control, PAWS, and the HUmane Society, but I feel there should be more, as there isn't a high level of "protection" for animals. Sorry I can't think of a better wording.
Also, I did not mean to step on any toes with my first comment on this subject. It's just that I get really emotional when I hear of things like this. People can help the situations they are in (for the most part) animals can't, some of them depend on us for there safety and survival.
 
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I just cannot tear myself from the computer! Hehe.

I will definitely call this weeked!!


Have fun at lunch!

Thanks for all the posts on this thread- you've added a great deal!


Alright, I'm off to bed.. for real this time!

Originally Posted by TNR1

I'm meeting my mom for lunch but will be around tomorrow evening and Sunday.


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I have rescued 16 cats 12 of those were females, the last one I rescued had 5 babies with her all females, when I got them home I took mommy first to the vet she was not even a year old with 5 babies and she was pregrant again, I had her spayed and once the 5 babie girls were old enough I had them all spayed as I did with the other 10 I rescued, spayed and neutered, tested, shots, wormed and treated for fleas, I have 6 of the ones I rescued in my home and I Love them dearly, it took me a year to get all of those 16 and it is alot of hard work but more heartache when you don't get them, they came from a busy shopping center parking lot all of them, I dare to think how many would be there now had I not got what I did, it is a major crises for sure. The county I live in puts thousands to sleep every year, People have still not gotten the spay and neuter message and it's just heart brakeing, and it's not just 1 shopping center there everywhere anymore, I have alway's said I don't beleive that Cats get the same respect as dogs, as I have yet to see a litter of puppies wondering around in a busy shopping center parking lot, I don't think you would, at least the Humane society or pound would go and get them.
 
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I totally understand what you mean. I do have to say w/ dogs.. they don't 'multiply' like cats do.

Over a seven year period, a cat and her kittens can theoretically have 420,000 cats... a dog and her pups can theoretically have 64,000 (I believe what the number I read.. correct me if I'm wrong) dogs. So, that's one major reason.. cats totally outnumber dogs in the first place. But yes, a dog roaming the streets would absolutely be rescued before a cat roaming the streets.

**OH, and let me add. In NH anyway, if someone hits a dog - it's the law that they have to stop and get out. Hmm... not that way with cats!!!

Originally Posted by halfpint

I have rescued 16 cats 12 of those were females, the last one I rescued had 5 babies with her all females, when I got them home I took mommy first to the vet she was not even a year old with 5 babies and she was pregrant again, I had her spayed and once the 5 babie girls were old enough I had them all spayed as I did with the other 10 I rescued, spayed and neutered, tested, shots, wormed and treated for fleas, I have 6 of the ones I rescued in my home and I Love them dearly, it took me a year to get all of those 16 and it is alot of hard work but more heartache when you don't get them, they came from a busy shopping center parking lot all of them, I dare to think how many would be there now had I not got what I did, it is a major crises for sure. The county I live in puts thousands to sleep every year, People have still not gotten the spay and neuter message and it's just heart brakeing, and it's not just 1 shopping center there everywhere anymore, I have alway's said I don't beleive that Cats get the same respect as dogs, as I have yet to see a litter of puppies wondering around in a busy shopping center parking lot, I don't think you would, at least the Humane society or pound would go and get them.
 

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This practice is common as well it should be. Would you prefer a mama cat have kittens who die a slow death of starvation and cruelty on the street, eaten alive by some larger mammal, picked up someone who uses them as snake food, hit by a car and left to die, freeezes to death as it gets colder, attacked by people who hate cats (and there are too many ailophobes out there!) or something worse. Most feral cats brought to pounds - kittens included - are immediately euthenized. If the kittens are never born, they never suffer. Sadly, there are something like 1 person for every 10 cats in North America and of course not every family wants a cat. That is the sad reality and spaying mama while she is pregnant is a Godsend to her and the yet developed fetuses.
 

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Any pregnant stray that shows up here, is trapped, and taken to the vet to be spayed. It is a sad reality but there are no homes for feral and stray kittens because people usually want a nice, wonderful lap kitty to sit on them while they watch television. Having a spitting hissing clawing kitten puts a lot of people off. The females are spayed, the males neutered and they are re-released on our land. My one feral cat turns 11 years old soon and he has only been inside 3 times in his lifetime. He hates confinement and will fight you tooth and nail if you try. He is a total love outside though.
 
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