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I have a Ragdoll who is expecting, today is day 65 after breeding. She was breed with a Himalayan. I've heard that there are sometimes problems with delivery due to head size with Persians. She is quite petite, should I expect problems with delivery and should the kittens be on time?
 

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Kittens can be born anytime between 63 and 68 days. She should be fine. My concern is WHY you bred her to a himalayan instead of another ragdoll. The kittens are just mixed breed cats - not pedigree. Are you planning on selling them or was this an accidental litter?
 
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This was an Oops, we did not think the Himalayan was old enough to be mature. He is quite tiny and much younger than the female. I did not want to have her spayed until after she was a year old. I also have her sister which I may breed intentionally with another Ragdoll. I am happy that I have so many people interested in having one of these kittens even though they are not born yet.
 

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Although these kittens will be ineligible to be regsitered, it will be interesting to see how they turn out. Sorry to hear about the oops but I am glad you are seeking good homes for them - good luck!!!
 

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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45

Kittens can be born anytime between 63 and 68 days. She should be fine. My concern is WHY you bred her to a himalayan instead of another ragdoll. The kittens are just mixed breed cats - not pedigree. Are you planning on selling them or was this an accidental litter?
Do you know for certain that a Himmy isn't an acceptable outcross for a Ragdoll? In some associations, it may be. I don't know whether it is or not, but I do know that some associations do allow for such an outcross.

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Originally Posted by Ragdollgal

This was an Oops, we did not think the Himalayan was old enough to be mature. He is quite tiny and much younger than the female. I did not want to have her spayed until after she was a year old. I also have her sister which I may breed intentionally with another Ragdoll. I am happy that I have so many people interested in having one of these kittens even though they are not born yet.
How did you come by these Ragdolls? Are they registered or eligible to be registered? If so, then check carefully before intentionally breeding them as the breeder who produced them may not have given you the right to breed them without her permission or knowledge.

My dear, while I can certainly understand wanting to have little fuzzy babies to give/sell to others, the fact is that unless you are breeding to improve the breed, showing to promote your cattery and cats, and are very, very knowledgable about your lines, you shouldn't be breeding at all. I am in no way meaning to be harsh here, but the sad fact is that there are many, many mixed breed kittens in shelters and rescue facilities all over this land. If you are breeding simply to produce kittens, then you are doing it for the wrong reason.
 
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Originally Posted by gayef

Do you know for certain that a Himmy isn't an acceptable outcross for a Ragdoll? In some associations, it may be. I don't know whether it is or not, but I do know that some associations do allow for such an outcross.

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I would like to know more about this, where could I get more info. My babies are not registered but they are eligible to be registered as I have copies of their parents pedigrees. I do have permission to register and breed them. We are not in an area that has ample opportuity to find and purchase pedigree cats. I was extremely lucky with mine. A few weeks of negotiations so to speak. I, as well as many others in our area have had terrible luck with our SPCA. Cats with respiratory disease and a load of young cats and kittens getting FIP from the mutated corona virus. That is why I went with purebreds this time. I could not go through that kind of agony and heartbreak again.
 

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Originally Posted by Ragdollgal

This was an Oops, we did not think the Himalayan was old enough to be mature. He is quite tiny and much younger than the female. I did not want to have her spayed until after she was a year old. I also have her sister which I may breed intentionally with another Ragdoll. I am happy that I have so many people interested in having one of these kittens even though they are not born yet.
One thing that you definately should do is get in touch with the breeders in the breeders section. Responsible breeding requires many things...including ensuring that kittens that are pet quality are spayed and a willingness to take any of the kittens back during their entire lives or help the person find the cat a new home. Also, check your registration papers to ensure that you were given breeding rights...without those, your kittens cannot be registered.

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Originally Posted by Ragdollgal

I would like to know more about this, where could I get more info. My babies are not registered but they are eligible to be registered as I have copies of their parents pedigrees. I do have permission to register and breed them. We are not in an area that has ample opportuity to find and purchase pedigree cats. I was extremely lucky with mine. A few weeks of negotiations so to speak. I, as well as many others in our area have had terrible luck with our SPCA. Cats with respiratory disease and a load of young cats and kittens getting FIP from the mutated corona virus. That is why I went with purebreds this time. I could not go through that kind of agony and heartbreak again.
I just checked with a friend of mine (whom I consider to be the Authority on Registry Associations and how they work) and I am told that this is not an acceptable outcross. I am sorry to have raised a non-valid point.

If your cats are eligible, then I suggest you go ahead and register them first. Then, learn everything you can about the breed, talk to responsible breeders, pour through books about the breed, thoroughly familiarize yourself with the health and temperament of the breed - once you've done all of that (in about oh, give or take several years) then start going to cat shows. In fact, you can show your household pets in the Neuter class and begin that way.

Best of luck to you,

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Not positive on outcrosses in Ragdolls, but I can't imagine himalayan breeders wanting their cats bred with them. The Ragdolls already have the pointed gene, so why cross them. Plus the coat/type are totally different - not even close.
 

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Just wanted to echo what Gaye has said and advise you - in the event you are interested in becoming a breeder - to find a mentor, someone who can guide you through this process. The cat shows, the genetics, the health and legal issues, etc.
 
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I have been wanting to attend a Cat Show for quite some time. The closest place that holds any (once a year) is a three hour drive away. The drive is not a problem it is the infrequency of shows.
I've done some research and outcrossing with Himalayans was actually allowed up to 2004. I guess I missed the mark.
If I do decide to go into breeding, I will take your advice and find a mentor.
 

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Originally Posted by Ragdollgal

I have been wanting to attend a Cat Show for quite some time. The closest place that holds any (once a year) is a three hour drive away. The drive is not a problem it is the infrequency of shows.
I've done some research and outcrossing with Himalayans was actually allowed up to 2004. I guess I missed the mark.
If I do decide to go into breeding, I will take your advice and find a mentor.
You may want to see about finding a mentor through the breeder forum.

Katie
 
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