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post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
I just read about this on another forum and was really hoping it wasn't true, but there was a website with a petition to stop it, so I guess it must be. According to the poster, it is legal in France to use live cats and dogs as shark bait!!! Please sign this petition to help STOP this atrocity.
http://www.rspca.org.uk/servlet/Sate...rkbaitpetition
I didn't post the photo that I saw because it is so graphic. What I'm about to say next is dispicable. Please stop reading if you don't want the details. They use hooks to drag these animals behind the boat. I am so sad, sick and furious about this.
post #2 of 23
I'm shocked! France is an EU member, and the EU animal protection laws are pretty strict. So declawing, or tail docking and ear cropping, are illegal, but using pets as bait isn't?
post #3 of 23
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jcat
I'm shocked! France is an EU member, and the EU animal protection laws are pretty strict. So declawing, or tail docking and ear cropping, are illegal, but using pets as bait isn't?
I don't get it either. I was really hoping it was a hoax, but the RSPCA website looks authentic.
post #4 of 23
I just checked out the website, and it seems legit. This makes it a bit clearer: http://www.rspca.org.uk/servlet/Sate...t&pg=sharkbait
This isn't going on in France, but on the island of Réunion in the Indian Ocean, which is a French territory (overseas département).
post #5 of 23
Thread Starter 
Tricia, Thanks for clarifying that. I still don't want to believe it.
post #6 of 23
Alas, it is true and they are petitioning the French government:Note, a picture in this article is GRAPHIC

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005450117,00.html
post #7 of 23
I signed the petition. I sure hope it will do some good. I can't believe the French government would allow such a thing. I thought the European countries were better than the US with regard to preventing the abuse of animals that are classifiable as pets.
post #8 of 23
I am truly horrified almost daily by what the human race is capable of. This is just sick.
post #9 of 23
I am not going to look at the pictures or the details because I think I would throw up but would someone please PM me and let me know if I can sign a petition or call someone or do anything to help have this practice banned?
post #10 of 23
I've just signed, and thats sickened me
post #11 of 23
Signed. Can't think of how to describe how this makes me feel. Sick, ashamed to be human, sorry for the animals of this planet that we ever got off all fours and devised new and cruel ways of killing them.
post #12 of 23
eek - I cant bear to click on the link.
post #13 of 23
I am somewhat sceptical about the truth of this. The mere fact that it is one a website of a reputable organisation does not by itself means that it is true. Looking at the picture makes me question the practicality of using a dog in such a manner as a bait.

And even if it is true, and that online petitions work, I am uncertain as to whom this would be directed against. The links does not say that it is legal to do so, it merely calls on the government to put an end to the practice. But that is like writing to your government and telling them to put an end to theft, which may be good in bringing attention to an issue but it is not as if the government is complicit in the acts.

From what I read, it seems that the story stems from the prosecution of a fisherman for animal cruelty so in any event it does not seem that the government is doing nothing but in fact it was the government's action that brought attention to this purported issue.
post #14 of 23
Thread Starter 
I re-read the article and found that it says the RSPCA is "strongly urging the French government" to enforce legislation to end this practice. Bumpy is right. It doesn't actually say the practice is legal. Regardless, it needs to be stopped. I don't know whether or not online petitions work either, but IMO its worth the few seconds it takes in case they do.
post #15 of 23
SIGNED .
post #16 of 23
Note: You can sign the petition without seeing the photo if you follow the link Renee/Rockcat provided in the first post.
According to my French colleagues, a département like Réunion isn't autonomous, though it has its own president. Jacques Chirac is the correct party to address in such a situation.
I'm moving this thread to the proper forum for it, SOS, but will leave a redirect.
post #17 of 23
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jcat
Note: You can sign the petition without seeing the photo if you follow the link Renee/Rockcat provided in the first post.
According to my French colleagues, a département like Réunion isn't autonomous, though it has its own president. Jacques Chirac is the correct party to address in such a situation.
I'm moving this thread to the proper forum for it, SOS, but will leave a redirect.
Thank you Tricia. I should have put it here to begin with.
post #18 of 23
Update on this:

Apparently, there is little the French govt can do - it is Reunion Island and according to Snopes - the highly regarded web site that investigates what are hoaxes and what are not online, (and offline), these photos may not be real and "the practice may not be as widespread or horrific as implied by recent news stories"

http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/sharkbait.asp

Here is the original article:

http://www.clicanoo.com/article.php3?id_article=113902

I think one would have to contact the Natives on the island and educate people there about this. Petitions are usually ineffective and this one unless signed by voters who live on this particular island and given to the representative there, will not help. As a student, I worked for the leader of a political party (and continue to be inviolved in politics) and we payed attention only to those letters signed by people who voted in ridings from that province and did not give much credence to petitions, other than use them in photo ops when they were presented in the legislature - which would garner some press for the issue at least - . This online petition will not get that kind of notice.

If one really wants to do someting, look up the island and find its tourism center and write and explain you will never visit there until they can assert with confidence that this practice has been ended!!

http://www.la-reunion-tourisme.com/default1.htm
Or you could write a letter (en Francais s'il vous plait) to their newspaper.

http://www.clicanoo.com/articleseul...._article=97216
post #19 of 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by bumpy
I am somewhat skeptical about the truth of this. The mere fact that it is one a website of a reputable organization does not by itself means that it is true. Looking at the picture makes me question the practicality of using a dog in such a manner as a bait.
I too am some what skeptical. I would not doubt it is possible that this actually occurs. Humans are a cruel species.
I doubt the validly of the photo, looking at the picture, the picture itself looks forged. There is no visible trauma to the animal around the hook. I would expect swelling, bleeding irritation or some indication of the trauma impacted by having that size hook through its snout. The animal would not sit gracefully while it was being “baited†additionall if the if the animal was actually "trawled" behind a boat and somehow got free. that type stress on flesh would leave some kinda physical stress such as bleeding, tearing of the skin etc...

this is also posted at http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/sharkbait.asp

Regardless, it would not hurt to sign the petition for the French government to investigate fully and put this to rest.
post #20 of 23
I stopped reading when i got to the hooks and did not look at the picture cause i about threw up reading this.
The stinking world has gone nuts!!!!!!!!! this is so sick just as bad when i saw lou dobs on cnn last week and thoses houses over in new orleans where the freaks shots all thoses dogs and they showed all the blood over the walls and said the dogs were not dead all the way when they shot them how they must have suffered and crawed a while before there death.

Somehow this has got to stop what is wrong with people in this world i do not understand how people can be this way
Why can't this world work together and we all become one why so much hurt and hate towards humans and animals one day the'll be a lot folks out there who are going to half to answer to theses horrible things!
post #21 of 23
OMG! THe things people do!
post #22 of 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by huggles
eek - I cant bear to click on the link.
DITTO
post #23 of 23
yes the link is legitimate,the r.s.p.c.a. is the governing body in the u.k for animal welfare.they 'nearly' have the same powers as police have powers re: animal welfare.

there are a lot of animal cruelty issues in france,spain,and other european countries,we here in the u.k. hear about these things all the time,and u.k itself has its own issues(fox hunting,badger baiting,dog fighting,**** fighting,etc (illegal but still happens)and it is heart breaking,

edit,sorry the ***word is not a swear word,its the name of a male bird,didnt know when posting it would think it was swear word.
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