Recommended brands?

purr · Sep 29, 2005

Would you be open to ordering online at all? I've found that the best foods (i.e. best ingredients with fewest fillers) are really hard to find, but are sold at many online retailers. I don't know which ones ship to the UK, but it's another search for you if you're open to that.

Good luck with your food search!

chupi · Sep 29, 2005

Hi Purr! I think thats what I will do - its the easiest way, and Ive found a number of the other brands online too! (plus its cheaper!

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fluffysimba · Sep 29, 2005

*waving hand*

I prefer Natural balance.

My cats LOVE it!!! The Ultra can be fed to kittens on up to adults.

Ingredients:
Chicken, Chicken Meal, Brown Rice, Duck, Lamb Meal, Potatoes, Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols, Vitamin E) Canola Oil, Oatmeal, Fish Meal, Brewers Yeast, Rosemary Extract, Dried Skimmed Milk, Natural Flavor, Dried Eggs, Carrots, Whole Ground Flaxseed, Kelp, DL Methionine, Dried Cranberries, Lecithin, Parsley Flakes, Tomato Pomace, Taurine, Zinc Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin A Acetate, Riboflavin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Biotin, Vitamin C Supplement, Yucca Schidigera, Folic Acid, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Vitamin K Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Ethylene Dihydriodide, Sodium Selenite.

fluffysimba · Sep 29, 2005

Originally Posted by chupi

Is Royal Canin very good?

All of my cats and kittens wouldn't even touch the Royal Canin. So I have at least half a bag sitting in my cabinet.

kai bengals · Sep 29, 2005

The only dry kibble I like is Purina One Chicken. All our cats get BRAVO raw diet...best thing we've ever done for our cats.

The difference is amazing. They are bigger, stronger, beautiful shiny pelts. Virtually no litterbox smell, solid stools everytime. They actually look foward to meal times...so enthusiastic that we look foward to feeding them.
No picky finicky nonsense, they devour their food with gusto.
Kittens gain weight at an incredible rate and are so vibrant.
I will never go back to kibble for these guys....they are so clearly much happier and healthier.

sharky · Sep 29, 2005

Originally Posted by fluffysimba

*waving hand*

I prefer Natural balance.

My cats LOVE it!!! The Ultra can be fed to kittens on up to adults.

Ingredients:
Chicken, Chicken Meal, Brown Rice, Duck, Lamb Meal, Potatoes, Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols, Vitamin E) Canola Oil, Oatmeal, Fish Meal, Brewers Yeast, Rosemary Extract, Dried Skimmed Milk, Natural Flavor, Dried Eggs, Carrots, Whole Ground Flaxseed, Kelp, DL Methionine, Dried Cranberries, Lecithin, Parsley Flakes, Tomato Pomace, Taurine, Zinc Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin A Acetate, Riboflavin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Biotin, Vitamin C Supplement, Yucca Schidigera, Folic Acid, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Vitamin K Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Ethylene Dihydriodide, Sodium Selenite.

I do like nautral balence... tred it but it was two rich for one and the other would not touch...lmao... the best food is the best that your kitty will eat...

sharky · Sep 29, 2005

Originally Posted by Kai Bengals

The only dry kibble I like is Purina One Chicken. All our cats get BRAVO raw diet...best thing we've ever done for our cats.

The difference is amazing. They are bigger, stronger, beautiful shiny pelts. Virtually no litterbox smell, solid stools everytime. They actually look foward to meal times...so enthusiastic that we look foward to feeding them.
No picky finicky nonsense, they devour their food with gusto.
Kittens gain weight at an incredible rate and are so vibrant.
I will never go back to kibble for these guys....they are so clearly much happier and healthier.

the pelt is why I am going to raw for :wet food" ... Zoey is part bengal and her "pelt" is getting shiner the more raw I can feed her....

sharky · Sep 29, 2005

Originally Posted by laureen227

i looked up some others, too - is it because it has a variety of carbs, or are we talking amounts? i was under the impression that ingredients are listed from highest amount to lowest amount. some other premium brands list these as the 1st 3 ingredients- i don't see that much difference. what am i missing?

[/color] Chicken Meal, Ground Rice, Corn Gluten Meal - Natural Choice

[/color]Chicken fat (naturally preserved with mixed tocopherols, rosemary extract and citric acid), chicken meal, corn gluten meal - Royal Canin

These two have one true grain since gluten meal of corn is 66% protein , I just prefer my kids get more meat and less grain a veggies ... Evan my totally canned/ homemade / raw girl gets very little grain... my dog only gets two grains at a time...

laureen227 · Sep 29, 2005

Originally Posted by Kai Bengals

The only dry kibble I like is Purina One Chicken. All our cats get BRAVO raw diet...best thing we've ever done for our cats.

The difference is amazing. They are bigger, stronger, beautiful shiny pelts. Virtually no litterbox smell, solid stools everytime. They actually look foward to meal times...so enthusiastic that we look foward to feeding them.
No picky finicky nonsense, they devour their food with gusto.
Kittens gain weight at an incredible rate and are so vibrant.
I will never go back to kibble for these guys....they are so clearly much happier and healthier.

how much do you feed of this? i'm looking at the choices, & trying to figure out 'cost per meal'. for instance: 10 pound chicken blend cost $15.99. so if the cats eat 1/4 pound per meal it would be about $0.40, or for my 3, $1.20. how much per cat per meal (approximately)?

laureen227 · Sep 29, 2005

Originally Posted by sharky

These two have one true grain since gluten meal of corn is 66% protein , I just prefer my kids get more meat and less grain a veggies ... Evan my totally canned/ homemade / raw girl gets very little grain... my dog only gets two grains at a time...

i understand that meat is preferable to grain, but if a food has 33% grain products, does it matter whether that 33% comes from one grain versus multiple grains? [BTW - just using the 33% figure as an example - actually don't know the percentage...]

sharky · Sep 29, 2005

Originally Posted by laureen227

how much do you feed of this? i'm looking at the choices, & trying to figure out 'cost per meal'. for instance: 10 pound chicken blend cost $15.99. so if the cats eat 1/4 pound per meal it would be about $0.40, or for my 3, $1.20. how much per cat per meal (approximately)?

I am sure Kai will give her stats... but my homemade mix comes out too about a dollar a day when feed with canned ... 50 cent s for three eating without canned

pat · Sep 29, 2005

Originally Posted by laureen227

i understand that meat is preferable to grain, but if a food has 33% grain products, does it matter whether that 33% comes from one grain versus multiple grains? [BTW - just using the 33% figure as an example - actually don't know the percentage...]

I didn't do any calculations re how much total per centage of grains is in the one food we were discussing, versus a food with just one where it is a for example per centage of 33%, but I honestly would still have a problem even if they were the same total per centage, because depending on the grain or product, it may be a food allergen (wheat, corn, soy are some examples).

That would be my reasoning for preferring, no matter what, not to see 7 grain or carb sources in just one food

laureen227 · Sep 29, 2005

Originally Posted by Pat & Alix

I didn't do any calculations re how much total per centage of grains is in the one food we were discussing, versus a food with just one where it is a for example per centage of 33%, but I honestly would still have a problem even if they were the same total per centage, because depending on the grain or product, it may be a food allergen (wheat, corn, soy are some examples).

That would be my reasoning for preferring, no matter what, not to see 7 grain or carb sources in just one food

as a human sufferer of food allergies, i totally get this. thanks for explaining!

sharky · Sep 29, 2005

Originally Posted by laureen227

i understand that meat is preferable to grain, but if a food has 33% grain products, does it matter whether that 33% comes from one grain versus multiple grains? [BTW - just using the 33% figure as an example - actually don't know the percentage...]

lets say .. a food has two meats and four grains...
chn meal , br rice corn gluten meal and lamb meal

it is a five lb bag

chn meal likely makes one lb of that formula up the rice about 1/2 lb corn gluten about the same as rice and the lamb meal about the same

another has many meats and grains

chn salmon rice oatmeal millet chn meal duck meal

it would have alot of meat wt before cooking since the first two are mostly water 60-75% depending which study ,,,

so you really get about a lb of grain vs lb of meat first

% only works if it is meal to meal and the same mosture levals...

I decreased the grains for my dog due to allergies /// one meat and two grains is easier to monitor

./... Pat gave a great explantation

ravyn · Sep 29, 2005

I feed Nature's Variety Prairie Dry and canned food. This is the ingredient list for the dry Lamb and Rice:

Lamb, Brown Rice, Oatmeal, Canola Oil (Preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid), Flaxseed, Menhaden Fish, Suncured Alfalfa Meal, Montmorillonite, Flaxseed Oil, Freeze Dried Lamb, Freeze Dried Lamb Liver, Freeze Dried Salmon Oil, Apples, Cranberries, Kelp, Parsley, Artichoke, Inulin, Rosemary, Sage, Clove, Fermentation Products (Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Bifidobacterium Thermophilum Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Enterococcus Faecium Fermentation Product Dehydrated), Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Calcium Carbonate, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (a source of Vitamin C), Carotene, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Calcium Pantothenate, Niacin Supplement, Folic Acid, Riboflavin Supplement, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex, Biotin, Choline Chloride, Manganous Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Ferrous Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Taurine, and Vitamin B12 Supplement.

And this is for the wet Chicken and Turkey:

Chicken, Turkey, Chicken Broth, Chicken Liver, Carrots, Peas, Tricalcium Phosphate, Lecithin, Calcium Carbonate, Egg Product, Potassium Chloride, Flaxseed, Montmorillonite Clay, Kelp, Choline Chloride, Taurine, Blueberry, Broccoli, Cabbage, Cranberry, Kale, Whole Egg, Sweet Potato, Artichoke, Garlic, Zinc Proteinate, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate, Iron Proteinate, Vitamin E Supplement, Manganese Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Niacin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Biotin, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin A Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Barley Grass, Sodium Selenite, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Clove, Grapefruit Seed Extract, Rosemary, Sage, Inulin, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Folic Acid, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex, Parsley.

I know there is still a bit too much grain and vegetable matter in the food for cats, but the cats have done fabulously on it, and I'm currently trying to remake the transition to raw. They do get supplemented with raw chicken hearts, gizzards, octopus, and fish. I feed a third a cup of dry plus a quarter of a can of wet per grown cat, and a half a cup of dry plus a quarter of a can of wet per growing kitten (I have two), so a little food goes a long way. They maintain their healthy weight perfectly on that and the kittens are growing at a good rate. Their coats just glow and even my cat Athena, who has had the driest, roughest coat I've known for a cat since I got her, feels silky now.

lionessrampant · Sep 29, 2005

I really like Natura products, even if they have some sketchy company policies surrounding sales and distribution. However, I put my hippie-chick business ethics aside for my kits. Try Innova, Innova Evo or California Natural. Also, I have heard EXTREMELY good things about Prairie and Wellness dry foods. All of these can be found online

laureen227 · Sep 30, 2005

Originally Posted by sharky

I am sure Kai will give her stats... but my homemade mix comes out too about a dollar a day when feed with canned ... 50 cent s for three eating without canned

how much do you feed each cat of the raw diet? like, 1/4 pound each, or 1/2 pound for all 3... they're pretty ordinary sized cats - Cable weighs about 8-9 pounds, so does Java, & Pixel weighs about 11.

sharky · Sep 30, 2005

Originally Posted by laureen227

how much do you feed each cat of the raw diet? like, 1/4 pound each, or 1/2 pound for all 3... they're pretty ordinary sized cats - Cable weighs about 8-9 pounds, so does Java, & Pixel weighs about 11.

I make 1lb at a time .... mine are all 10-13 and the lb of meat last two days ... the cats I think eat two ozs a meal and the dog 4... I will weigh it

laureen227 · Sep 30, 2005

Originally Posted by sharky

I make 1lb at a time .... mine are all 10-13 and the lb of meat last two days ... the cats I think eat two ozs a meal and the dog 4... I will weigh it

Thanks, that helps!

aussie_dog · Sep 30, 2005

Originally Posted by Ravyn

I feed Nature's Variety Prairie Dry and canned food. This is the ingredient list for the dry Lamb and Rice:

Lamb, Brown Rice, Oatmeal, Canola Oil (Preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid), Flaxseed, Menhaden Fish, Suncured Alfalfa Meal, Montmorillonite, Flaxseed Oil, Freeze Dried Lamb, Freeze Dried Lamb Liver, Freeze Dried Salmon Oil, Apples, Cranberries, Kelp, Parsley, Artichoke, Inulin, Rosemary, Sage, Clove, Fermentation Products (Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Bifidobacterium Thermophilum Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Enterococcus Faecium Fermentation Product Dehydrated), Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Calcium Carbonate, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (a source of Vitamin C), Carotene, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Calcium Pantothenate, Niacin Supplement, Folic Acid, Riboflavin Supplement, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex, Biotin, Choline Chloride, Manganous Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Ferrous Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Taurine, and Vitamin B12 Supplement.

And this is for the wet Chicken and Turkey:

Chicken, Turkey, Chicken Broth, Chicken Liver, Carrots, Peas, Tricalcium Phosphate, Lecithin, Calcium Carbonate, Egg Product, Potassium Chloride, Flaxseed, Montmorillonite Clay, Kelp, Choline Chloride, Taurine, Blueberry, Broccoli, Cabbage, Cranberry, Kale, Whole Egg, Sweet Potato, Artichoke, Garlic, Zinc Proteinate, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate, Iron Proteinate, Vitamin E Supplement, Manganese Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Niacin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Biotin, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin A Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Barley Grass, Sodium Selenite, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Clove, Grapefruit Seed Extract, Rosemary, Sage, Inulin, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Folic Acid, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex, Parsley.

I know there is still a bit too much grain and vegetable matter in the food for cats, but the cats have done fabulously on it, and I'm currently trying to remake the transition to raw. They do get supplemented with raw chicken hearts, gizzards, octopus, and fish. I feed a third a cup of dry plus a quarter of a can of wet per grown cat, and a half a cup of dry plus a quarter of a can of wet per growing kitten (I have two), so a little food goes a long way. They maintain their healthy weight perfectly on that and the kittens are growing at a good rate. Their coats just glow and even my cat Athena, who has had the driest, roughest coat I've known for a cat since I got her, feels silky now.

I want to try Prairie, either the dog food or the cat food. I hear it's the next best thing to a raw diet, lol. But my 2 cats are doing great on California Natural and if it ain't broke, don't fix it (I broke that rule a couple months back when I decided to try Innova after using California Natural, and I didn't like the results so I went back to CN)

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