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post #1 of 18
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I am wondering about this because it's been the main topic on both of the talk radio shows I've heard today. One was simply on the fact that the vast majority of what we see as refugees, looters, etc. in New Orleans are black. The other was talking about how reporters are apparently refusing to make the observation and come across as "racist" or something like that. (Although Shepard Smith did yesterday when he was talking about the people coming out of The Projects...he said it outright - "100% African American").

But I just had to wonder...does it even matter? It doesn't to me. I saw people. I saw human suffering. It never even occurred to me, until Shepard Smith mentioned it, that it was anything other than just people.
post #2 of 18
I am not really familiar with the Deep South, but I think that most of the truly poor down there are African Americans, so it would stand to reason that there would be more black people that had to be sheltered, and even more black people that you saw looting. Personally, I can understand the looting, especially if it comes to food, but I can't understand it when they take TV's, and electronics. First of all they don't NEED them to stay alive, and Second of all, they can't use them, and probably won't be able to in months.

I don't think it matters what colour a person is, though. When you're poor and desperate, you are all in the same circumstance.
post #3 of 18
Well a lot of it relates to Mob Psychology. People do things in large crowds that they would never do alone. and The areas of New Orleans hit the hardest by the flooding are largly black areas. And they are the people who have neither the money or the resources to get away ahead of something like a hurricane. I am not trying to justify their looting, but mobs do have their own well documented dynamics.
post #4 of 18
From what I understand.. most of the poor in New Orleans are people of color, mainly african americans. I have seen whites looting too. My only question is why steal things that need power when you have no power. If they were stealing food water, pop, beer, dipars, baby stuff, I could understand. You need to eat some how and when the stores or shelters run out that may be the only option. But why steal stereos!!!! I just don't get it.
post #5 of 18
Normally, I am pretty d@mn color-blind. But in some instances you can't be...like when the media is showing a bias....
I was flipping through a Yahoo.com news slide show and saw two pictures of people wading through New Orleans with stolen food. One was a white couple, and the caption said they "found" some food. The other was of a black man. He had "looted a grocery store".
post #6 of 18
Most of the damage happened in the main parts of the city from what I understand. The majority of the population in the cities in the South (the cities, not the suburbs) is black. Ergo, the people they are going to be rescuing are going to be black. Birmingham is I don't know, 80? 90% black? Atlanta likewise, and I know Montgomery. I assume New Orleans follows this pattern.

Let me make another comment, the truly poor in the CITIES tend to be African Americans (or black if you prefer) the truly poor whites tend to be rural. Don't ask me why this is. If you go out driving in the country, you will see plenty of "snaky" looking areas as DH calls them with whites living there, sub-standard housing, old trailers, etc., etc.
post #7 of 18
I hadn't even noticed until I started seeing it on the news today. I wonder though if it is really true. I understand that there are those in need and still in need of rescuing. This was a HUGE storm, and the flood waters have not receeded at all or enough to get the "proper" help in.
post #8 of 18
I do know that the news has been doing a good job of interviewing people. One woman admitted she should have left, but having lived through other storms, she thought she could ride it out. A little 7 y/o was interviewed, and said she is eating well and playing with the other kids. I am getting good snapshots of what one individual person at a time is going through.

I don't really think it matters at this time what color people are. I do hope they get the criminal element under control...what the heck is going on? I can't imagine being in such dire straits, and having to fight off a criminal with a gun, too! And yet, lots of citizens are helping each other, too.
post #9 of 18
I was watching the ABC broadcast of Primetime and the issue of color was brought up including the pics discussed earlier in this thread. It was beginning to irk me a bit about how this is all about color and not just humanity suffering.

Now, where can I kvetch about all the media getting in to report and talk about the lack of supplies getting to these areas. Are they doing anything to help bring stuff in? ABC did have a couple of pieces showing reporters helping to get foodstuffs and transporting two elderly women to a pick up point, but what about the others? (Does that make sense?)
post #10 of 18
I saw a Mississipi man, on the news: blond hair, blues eyes and one tooth, griping because the FEMA fairy hadn't PERSONALLY swooped down and showered him with largess.
post #11 of 18
I see a lot of poor people that didn't have the means to get out of the city on their own. They estimated that about 175,000 households in the city didn't own a car. I finalized noticed the color tonight, but am beginning to wonder if that is why help is so long coming.
post #12 of 18
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Originally Posted by gemlady
I was watching the ABC broadcast of Primetime and the issue of color was brought up including the pics discussed earlier in this thread. It was beginning to irk me a bit about how this is all about color and not just humanity suffering.

Now, where can I kvetch about all the media getting in to report and talk about the lack of supplies getting to these areas. Are they doing anything to help bring stuff in? ABC did have a couple of pieces showing reporters helping to get foodstuffs and transporting two elderly women to a pick up point, but what about the others? (Does that make sense?)

Jan, I have wondered the same things, how the reporters say that roads are impassable and no one can get to where they are, well how did THEY get there? and really do we need every news station giving their opinion with their live reports? We could do with about half of it and the rest helping and doing other things instead of just standing there recording pain and suffering. I saw this clip on msn news of this poor dog struggling to swim and the lady was saying how so many animals are drowning. I yelled at the telly, stupid woman you could save one more if you would just put down the mic and help that poor dog!

And on another note, the Gvnr. of Louisanna and the mayor of neworleans said that they are not going to proscute the ones stealing food and clothes, and other supplies needed to live, only those who are not stealing the essentials.
post #13 of 18
New Orleans is 67% black. MSNBC is admitting that the media is highlighting black looters:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9163091/
post #14 of 18
IMO I think the doors to the grocery stores and Wal-marts(or similar stores) should have opened there doors and given these people a rationed amount of food and supplies to live on.

But because of certain villainous depraved people, that was not an option! What where those people taking TV's and other simular luxury items for? To take back to their homes? They are the reason why the good honest people are starving! How can the grocery stores open their doors with that kind of heinous wickedness taking place!

Their situation was dire to say the least...those people made it degenerate to even more fatal levels. For the good people, I just couldnt imagine what it must be like, and my heart really hurts for these poor people.
post #15 of 18
I think the racism goes back even farther than this...

If the poorest of the poor were the ones who are trapped in the city...and all we are seeing is images of African-Americans...well, how did that come to be?

The whole system is a mess.

If those had been rich white folks who didn't own cars (and many rich white people where I live don't, simply because a car is just not necessary where I live...and I live in Chicago's equivalent of the Upper West Side of Manhattan), they would have had the region's public transport down there to get those people out. It's the whole history we have with this problem, not just the media coverage today.
post #16 of 18
all I can say is imagine if this was the Hamptons covered in 20 feet of water...ok?

I know Rush went off about it not being a factor but Rush talks from his behind.
post #17 of 18
If this tragedy happened in Savannah (and I am taking this so seriously because we are PRIME to have something just as bad happen here one day), I can guarantee you'd see similar images on TV.
The vast majority of our poorer (and carless) population is African American. It is, quite unfortunately, very common here in the Deep South.
CEMA (our county's emergency management agency) did say that we have some sort of wonderful evacuation plan that includes hundreds of busses for people who do not have transportation of their own so that the majority of our town could evacuate. That's something I guess.
post #18 of 18
Last year, during the threat of Ivan, a local L.A. station ( I think it was KTLA5 or KCAL9 - does anyone in So.Cal. remember?) sent a reporter to N.O., and she picked up on the fact that the mayor estimated that about 100,000 people hadn't or wouldn't evacuate. She & her camera crew went to see why, and reported that it was mostly those who couldn't were the elderly, disabled, and otherwise disadvantaged, "our society's most vulnerable" as she put it. How sad that the locals didn't care to heed her observations - "an ounce of prevention "would certainly have been MUCH, MUCH cheaper than "the pound of cure"!!
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