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post #1 of 17
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FDA Official Quits Over Plan B Pill Delay

The "plan B" pill is most effective if used within 24 hours of unprotected sex.

Most doctors' offices are closed on weekends.

Most young teens, rape victims, molested girls, etc., would naturally be reluctant to go visit their doctor and ask for a prescription, even if a doctor is available, and even if they could afford the doctor's office visit (an office visit without insurance is usually at least $50).

If non-prescription access to the pill can prevent unwanted pregnancy, then it would reduce the number of abortions and unwanted children.

So why the delay?

Is it really better to force a young teen who was pressured into having sex or even raped or molested to go through a pregnancy, drop out of school, and give her child up for adoption (who may be hard to place if he/she is a minority or has any birth defects) than to allow her the option of taking a pill?

I just don't get it.
post #2 of 17
Me either!
post #3 of 17
From what I've heard the problem is this: they can not garentee Plan B's safty for girls under the age of 17. I don't know why it would adversly affect these younger girls but I guess that's the pattern they've been seeing. I personally think it should be put over the counter. It can help more people then it hurts.

I really think these parents have to do a better job letting thier children know that they can go to them with any problem. They have to show these girls that they are there for them and are not going to love them any less for getting pregnant. They must work with the girls to ensure they know all options available to them and willing to support and respect the choice they have made.
post #4 of 17
I agree i think it should be over the counter. but of course I also think that BC should not cost as much as it does if you dont have insurance. 30 dollars for most prescrips.
post #5 of 17
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Originally Posted by eburgess
I really think these parents have to do a better job letting thier children know that they can go to them with any problem. They have to show these girls that they are there for them and are not going to love them any less for getting pregnant. They must work with the girls to ensure they know all options available to them and willing to support and respect the choice they have made.
That would be the ideal solution.

But I used to work in a treatment center for troubled teenagers, and I can tell you that most of the mothers of the girls who were molested by their father/stepfather/mom's boyfriend were in complete denial - some even kicked their own daughters out of the house for 'seducing' the man or 'telling horrible lies'.

(sorry for the hijack)
post #6 of 17
Delaying this only hurts more people than it helps. Of course, the "moral majority" continue their misguided belief that Plan B is an abortion and therefore a tool of the devil ( ), so I don't see any positive changes in the near future...
post #7 of 17
Not being a parent I probably shouldn't stick my oar in the water but here I go anyway.
If I was the parent of daughters I would have them Implanted with the 5 year Norplant device at Menarche because I do believe in an ounce of prevention etc,etc. I still would teach them that it is better to wait and all that but I think we all know that only goes so far. IMO
post #8 of 17
The problem with that Howard (among others) is that you are going to be hard pressed to find a doc who will implant the Norplant in a child of 11, 12 or younger!

Also, I understand the fears and the basic sentiment behind your thinking...but
in essence, what you would be doing, is taking away your daughters rights over their own bodies.

And then what would you do when they turn 16 for example, and the Norplant has to come out (if dog forbid, she didn't have any of the bad side effects beforehand and had to go through early removal)?

What would you propose then at that age?
post #9 of 17
I definitely think Plan B should be over teh counter. It's not TOTALLY the pharmacy or drug company's responsibility to make sure that people who shouldn't be taking the drug as a safety issue don't take it. There's a certain amount of parental and personal responsibility as well. I think it's a combination of both, which is why these huge drug lawsuits confuse me so much.

As far as the "moral majority", well, their morals are not mine, and yet, I've never done anything (well, I got a speeding and packing ticket...oh my!) to break the law or hurt another living thing. And yet, I've taken Plan B before. I don't see how that makes me a horrible person, but then again, the moral majority as they call themselves, tends to have very smug beliefs like that.

Also, the ounce of prevention, IMO, is this: parents need to open up about this whole teen sex thing. Not every single girl who has sex before marriage will get pregnant. Those kids aren't going to end up on the street starving and turning to drugs and gangs just because they had sex while their age still ended in '-teen'. I myself was a national merit scholar, in the national honor society, graduated in the top 5% of my class, and had several other accolades and accomplishments (especially where music was concerned)...and I lost my virginity at 16. And I don't regret it even slightly. The one thing I DO regret about the whole situation is this: my parents, even though I'm 20 and in a relationship which will end in marriage, refuse to open up about the possibility that premarital sex might not be a sign of the impending apocalypse. It's a silly game to play with them. I made the choice that was right for me, it was carefully considered and educated. A lot of kids don't have that advantage and jump off the cliff without having some candid, unbiased, sex ed. They're just told that ALL PREMARITAL SEX IS BAD NO MATTER WHAT, which is not even slightly true. THAT'S what needs to change the most.
post #10 of 17
I remember I tried to get RU486 when I was in highschool and was unable to do so. I called dr's offices and pharmacies, although at that age it was referred to as "the morning after pill" and no one knew what it was. The sex in question happened of course over a weekend, when most kids have extra time, and dr's offices aren't even open on weekends and if they were they'd be booked solid. The pill is a time sensitive thing and that is my concern more than anything with making it more available. I have nothing against seeing a physician in fact it is preferable especially for someone I love to get some consultation before using a drug such as this, but if scheduling an appt and waiting to see a dr prohibits the timely use of this drug than it defeats the purpose.

edited to add, although I used RU486 interchangeably, it was not the abortion pill that I sought, it WAS the one that stops pregnancy before it occurred, not the one that kills a fetus. I didn't understand the difference which is another reason it's important to speak with someone
post #11 of 17
Funny this topic should come up...I was also reading an article on "Plan B" recently. I agree with most of you in that it needs to be more readily available to women.
post #12 of 17
I had to take it once too.. Not by choice, but lets just say it's not something I wanted to tell my mother about, so i went to planned parenthood. but that's not an option available to everyone and I think it needs to be more widely available (because i was so upset that I had to wait 2 days to take it.)

Honestly, the pill itself is more torture than anyone needs at such a vulnerable time (It made me puke 4 times) - not getting it is horrble.
post #13 of 17
Doctors also need to readily give Plan B as an option when a patient discloses to them that they were raped.
Case in point: a client of mine went to her physician after being raped. Her doctor should have offered her the option of Plan B right then and there (this was within 72 hours of the rape). She did ask my client about having a rape kit done, but the client refused as is her choice. Regardless, my client (who had no idea to ASK for it) should have been offered Plan B then and there.
And now? That client is 2 1/2 months pregnant with her rapist's baby. I'm taking her to Planned Parenthood next week to talk with a counselor about her options (naturally she does not want to have her rapist's baby, which I completely support), but I feel that, had her doctor offered her Plan B the moment she told her that she had been raped, this quite possibly could have been prevented.
This is a sad, sad story and, most unfortunately of all, not unique whatsoever.
post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by tuxedokitties
That would be the ideal solution.

But I used to work in a treatment center for troubled teenagers, and I can tell you that most of the mothers of the girls who were molested by their father/stepfather/mom's boyfriend were in complete denial - some even kicked their own daughters out of the house for 'seducing' the man or 'telling horrible lies'.

(sorry for the hijack)
Ok ideally these parents should show more support for thier children in general How about that??
post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by eburgess
Ok ideally these parents should show more support for thier children in general How about that??
I agree with you completely, and with your first comment too - I was just trying to point out that unfortunately, there are a lot of really lousy parents out there that don't support and communicate openly with their children, even though they most certainly should.
post #16 of 17
I dont talk to my mom about ANYTHING because she doesnt discuss... she threatens... like

"If you ever start smoking I will beat you to within an inch of your life"

I know she wouldnt actually BEAT me but things like that installed in my brain throughout the years makes me wary of talking to her about anything. I think the main reason I never really TRIED to get a boyfriend or anything in high school is because I was afraid of what my mom would say/do/look like. Once I get on my own it will be ok but before that.. nooo.....

I'm not doing anything before I get married though. I'm not religeous but I'm just being cautious with all the nasty freaking diseases out there. Hell. If a guy loves me enough to get married to me, he should love me enough to take the tests to see if he has aids and such.

I think plan B is a really good idea. And really.. what's so wrong with teens having more sex as long as more babies arent born? Hell.. maybe at first the teen sex rate will go up... but after a while it should level out. I mean.. if you eat only oranges for five days straight.. you really wont want to eat any more oranges on the sixth day, however much you like oranges.
post #17 of 17
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Originally Posted by Loveysmummy
The problem with that Howard (among others) is that you are going to be hard pressed to find a doc who will implant the Norplant in a child of 11, 12 or younger!

Also, I understand the fears and the basic sentiment behind your thinking...but
in essence, what you would be doing, is taking away your daughters rights over their own bodies.

And then what would you do when they turn 16 for example, and the Norplant has to come out (if dog forbid, she didn't have any of the bad side effects beforehand and had to go through early removal)?

What would you propose then at that age?
Well having said I never have been a parent, At 11, 12, 13, 16 whatever till they reach majority I make the decisions not the children That is why the adults are responsible not the children and at 16 she can get a new one. Any one who thinks that they can keep a kid from having sex is living in a dream. All you can do is terach them your values try to protect them as best you can and hope they will make the right decisions. And to be there to help and support them when they make a bad one as we all do from time to time.
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