Cat in vet overnight two hours after purchase

mybabies · Sep 3, 2005

Originally Posted by blacksunshine89

..................................... come to find out she sold all of her cats with feline herpes, ............... the cats i got gave two of my siamese the virus and as a result i had to get rid of four of my cats because i couldant have the rest getting the virus, ................

NO you did NOT need to get rid of 4 cats! When I adopted Panther HE came down with the herpes/Calici virus. He had played with 1 of my other 3 and I was terrified they would get it.

I ISOLATED Panther in my bedroom for almost 4 weeks. EVERTHING that came out of that room was bleached (ME TOO). I also gave my other 3 their upper respiratory shots.

Panther has been out of isolation for 1 1/2 weeks and my others have not (Praying to God) come down with it.

I did NOT give Panther away!

wellingtoncats · Sep 3, 2005

Originally Posted by CyberKitten

The recommended age is 12 weeks and there are good medical and behavioural reasons why. I do relaize there are situations where one may end up with a kitten younger than 12 weeks - an ill Queen, rescue, I myself have raised 4 bottle babies so I know realitsically one cannot always have the babies with mama till they are 12 weeks but no reputable breeder sells kittens prior to 12 weeks. If they do, you find another breeder. IO am glad to hear yours are fine tho!!

The following article explains it much better than I:

http://www.breedlist.com/faq/young.html

And this is a fairly adequate overview:
http://www.fabcats.org/choosingapedigreekitten.html
I must concur with the others - while this woman at least offered to help with the vet bills, she does not sound to me like a totally reputable breeder. She is not doing the things the breeders who have posted here - who follow more strict and proper guidelines.

Sorry but the recommended age ISN'T 12 weeks. You aren't a breeder so I wish you wouldn't lecture about this type of thing and leave it to those that have experience.

elizwithcat · Sep 3, 2005

Sims2fan said:
Originally Posted by bengalbabe

Don't mean to sound rude by why would any one accept a kitten that is obviouly sick the day they get it?

The kitten looked fine while at the breeders my issue is that the breeder lied and gave me a kitten that was far too young. This in my opinion is a very cruel thing to do as she had not been properly weaned yet. She did look very small when I saw her but I had been told by many people that Siamese kittens are small in comparison to other breeds. This woman said the same, she seemed genuine showing me the mother and father and siblings. The siblings did looks bigger than her but they were male and she said that the males are much bigger. In fact I said are you sure she is ten weeks old and she said yes.

Wellington, there was no contract signed concerning the release of predigree/transfer papers upon neutering.

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That's too bad. The woman doesn't sound like a reputable breeder at all. I realize it's too late to change anything, but people who plan to buy from breeders in the future should always ask for vet references and actually call the vet. And if there is no contract and no papers, don't buy from that person, they are not a reputable breeder.
That said, I hope Dani gets better despite her breeder.

wellingtoncats · Sep 3, 2005

OK well that breeder IS slack then! If she didn't give you any word saying about the release of the owner papers. That's too bad. How's kitty today?

scamperfarms · Sep 3, 2005

Actually standard age here in the states is 12-14weeks sam.

pepsi · Sep 3, 2005

Yep 12 weeks,my breeder reused to give me the Somalis any younger then 12 week-got the papers up front and proof of vaxs before I took them home

I am sorry your kitty is sick,I pray it gets better soon

wellingtoncats · Sep 3, 2005

It may be there but it isn't here so that's why I'm saying don't paint everything with the same brush. Ya know?

I'm clarifying it for NZ & Aus here

scamperfarms · Sep 3, 2005

Understandable but your comment to cyberkitten

Sorry but the recommended age ISN'T 12 weeks. You aren't a breeder so I wish you wouldn't lecture about this type of thing and leave it to those that have experience.

made it seem like your were saying all over it isnt 12weeks. while it isnt there it is here..

I personaly thing it should also be with dogs, but many people let them leave far to early.

elizwithcat · Sep 3, 2005

Originally Posted by ScamperFarms

Actually standard age here in the states is 12-14weeks sam.

I got my persian at 10 weeks and he was very big. I never had a problem with him. He als flew to me on the plane.
My second persian I got and he was 5 month, and he got sick 2 days after I got him-Scaredy, and I picked him up myself.
Obviously, somewhat advanced kitten age doesn't mean the animal is going to be healthy. And 10 week seems to be a good age for a kitten because he was a really big one at that age. But I realize that some breeders who are really good want to keep a kitten until 12 weeks. Still, if the kitten is really 10 weeks, he should be fine. Dani sounds like she might be younger than 10 weeks.

scamperfarms · Sep 3, 2005

Originally Posted by elizwithcat

I got my persian at 10 weeks and he was very big. I never had a problem with him. He als flew to me on the plane.
My second persian I got and he was 5 month, and he got sick 2 days after I got him-Scaredy, and I picked him up myself.
Obviously, somewhat advanced kitten age doesn't mean the animal is going to be healthy. And 10 week seems to be a good age for a kitten because he was a really big one at that age. But I realize that some breeders who are really good want to keep a kitten until 12 weeks. Still, if the kitten is really 10 weeks, he should be fine. Dani sounds like she might be younger than 10 weeks.

I hold nothing against 10weeks. and i wont hold it against the breeder i dont know them. and its true a kitten can be fine at 10 weeks.

Standard practice is 12weeks sometimes longer sometimes less. give or take.

I myself wont let kittens go before 12weeks. just like i wont take a deposit til they are at least 3 weeks. But thats just me

cyberkitten · Sep 3, 2005

I was not lecturing - just staing a fact - and I have raised cats all my life!!! Bottlefed many a baby. Showed our Siamese. I am not currently a breeder but I have more yrs experience than you have years to your chronological age Wellington (assuming you are 18,

)so pls try to be kind, I am.

And one not need be a breeder to know as much as I do about cats - we have been caring for kitties in my family for generations. It's not necly in the genes but I do know the proper age for kittens to be adopted and no reputable breeder would adopt a baby at less than 12 weeks. I am sorry if you do it but we will have to disagree. When I was your age, I have to admit I thought I knew it all too - but the older I get, the more I realize I do not know. I guess it's part of the fun of being your age - ahh, to be there again!! Enjoy it!!

luvmysphynx · Sep 3, 2005

I agree that a kitten should not leave until it is at least 12 weeks old. A lot of Sphynx breeders do not let their kittens go until they are 16 weeks, including the breeder I work with.

Kittens should have all their vaccines and be altered prior to leaving (except for a breeder kitten). After all of that the kitten needs time to recover before being put through the stress of a new home. Just my opinion.

scamperfarms · Sep 3, 2005

Originally Posted by Luvmysphynx

I agree that a kitten should not leave until it is at least 12 weeks old. A lot of Sphynx breeders do not let their kittens go until they are 16 weeks, including the breeder I work with.

Kittens should have all their vaccines and be altered prior to leaving (except for a breeder kitten). After all of that the kitten needs time to recover before being put through the stress of a new home. Just my opinion.

I agree they should all have the shots and such. sometimes it can be hard to find a vet who will do early S/N but from a breeder P.O>V a firm contract and witholding of papers, as well as follow up calls, and keeping a vet name and number on file to make sure the S/N is done.

hopehacker · Sep 3, 2005

Usually when you buy a pedigreed kitten you are supposed to take it to the Vet with about 3 days time, that's what I had anyway, and have the kitten checked out for health. If there is something wrong with the kitten, you should be able to take it back to the breeder for a full refund. If you wish to keep the kitten then I would say that the Breeder is responsible for the Vet bill, especially if it doesn't come to more than you paid for the kitten. If it does, she may want to give you a refund or offer you another kitten.

elizwithcat · Sep 3, 2005

Originally Posted by HopeHacker

Usually when you buy a pedigreed kitten you are supposed to take it to the Vet with about 3 days time, that's what I had anyway, and have the kitten checked out for health. If there is something wrong with the kitten, you should be able to take it back to the breeder for a full refund. If you wish to keep the kitten then I would say that the Breeder is responsible for the Vet bill, especially if it doesn't come to more than you paid for the kitten. If it does, she may want to give you a refund or offer you another kitten.

My contract stated that all vet bills are my responcibility only.
It would be very hard to find a breeder willing to pay a vet bill, considering the prices.

elizwithcat · Sep 3, 2005

Originally Posted by Luvmysphynx

I agree that a kitten should not leave until it is at least 12 weeks old. A lot of Sphynx breeders do not let their kittens go until they are 16 weeks, including the breeder I work with.

Kittens should have all their vaccines and be altered prior to leaving (except for a breeder kitten). After all of that the kitten needs time to recover before being put through the stress of a new home. Just my opinion.

I couldn't find any vet around here willing to spay or neuter before 6 month.
Both my cats were un-neutered, although it would have saved me tons of money if I could buy my kittens already neutered, most breeders around here sell their kittens un-altered.

luvmysphynx · Sep 3, 2005

I belong to a few Sphynx Forums and a few of the Sphynx Breeders that have posted have had a hard time finding a vet to do early alterations. Most vets respect information from the Winn Feline Foundation and they have done a study about early S/N and here is the link http://www.winnfelinehealth.org/repo...ly-neuter.html After a few of the breeders spoke with their vet about this study and showed them the report, the vet did the early S/N.
My understanding from speaking with my vet (who does early S/N) and also posts from breeders, there are some vets that do not like to do it because it takes a little longer to do the procedure because the area is smaller and also is a harder for a vet with big hands to perform. If you are looking for a vet to do early S/N call a local rescue shelter. Chances are their vet does early S/N because the animals that leave the shelter are altered prior to placement.

elizwithcat · Sep 3, 2005

Originally Posted by Luvmysphynx

I belong to a few Sphynx Forums and a few of the Sphynx Breeders that have posted have had a hard time finding a vet to do early alterations. Most vets respect information from the Winn Feline Foundation and they have done a study about early S/N and here is the link http://www.winnfelinehealth.org/repo...ly-neuter.html After a few of the breeders spoke with their vet about this study and showed them the report, the vet did the early S/N.
My understanding from speaking with my vet (who does early S/N) and also posts from breeders, there are some vets that do not like to do it because it takes a little longer to do the procedure because the area is smaller and also is a harder for a vet with big hands to perform. If you are looking for a vet to do early S/N call a local rescue shelter. Chances are their vet does early S/N because the animals that leave the shelter are altered prior to placement.

My cats are neutered already, I had them done at 6 months without any problems. Since they are both males, I wasn't worried about them having any little ones. Neither was neutered when I got them from the breeder, but I had them both fixed. I would prefer to buy neutered but breeders around here just don't neuter for the most part.

goldenkitty45 · Sep 4, 2005

When I was breeding my rexes my contract had spay/neuter by 8 months and then the registration papers would be sent (after sending me proof of neutering). The kittens also were 4 months old and had all their shots (except the rabies).

Some breeds you would not dare place them younger then 3 1/2 months old - for several reasons. Mainly socialization and they were just not "mature" enough physically or emotionally. This includes most of the Siamese/Oriental/Rex type of cats. If you have ever seen or watched 8-10 week old kittens of theses breeds, you'd know they were not ready for a new home by themselves at that age.

Other breeds like Main Coons or Persians may do well at 10-12 weeks of age. The breeders I know when showing would let kittens go at a MINIMUM of 12 weeks - nothing sooner.

In fact, a lot of times I let my queens stop nursing when they wanted to - I've had them nursing up till the kits were 3 months old with no problems to either mom or kits.

wellingtoncats · Sep 4, 2005

Originally Posted by ScamperFarms

Understandable but your comment to cyberkitten

made it seem like your were saying all over it isnt 12weeks. while it isnt there it is here..

I personaly thing it should also be with dogs, but many people let them leave far to early.

well show me all the rules on this for each organisation in America & Canada, please.

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