Cat in vet overnight two hours after purchase

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Like many others here have said, I got my Billy's registration papers because he's neutered already, but won't get Chay's until he neutered as well. However, I think its really worrisome that this lady sold you your kitten at 10 weeks. Cats with an oriental background mature slower than other cats, and seperating them from mom too early can lead to wool-sucking behaviors, at least per the observations of some animal behaviorists at Tufts University. I know that I couldn't get my Birmans until Chay was at least 12 weeks old, preferably older. I also don't like that she didn't make you sign a contract...maybe she's just new at the business? If so, she needs a mentor or a better mentor...But the fact that she's willing to help you is a good sign. Is there any way you can contact other clients of hers? Best of luck sorting all this out, hope your kitten keeps getting better!
 

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Originally Posted by elizwithcat

I got papers on both of my persians when I bought them. When the breeder tells you he/she will give you the papers later, turn away because something fishy is going on.
If the breeder wants to wait until you spay or neuter, that will be in a contract.
When you have no contract and no papers, do not buy from that person.
All the breeders I know use contracts and do hold the papers until receipt of S/N paperwork (I didn't even realize there were breeders who didn't use contracts).

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Originally Posted by TNR1

All the breeders I know use contracts and do hold the papers until receipt of S/N paperwork (I didn't even realize there were breeders who didn't use contracts).

Katie
Not all breeders do that, as I already said. I got the papers for both of mine persians when I bought them.
This one sounds like a BYB. She had no contract, no papers, and described her cat is balinese even though he appears short hair.
It's nice she is offering to pay part of a vet bill, but I wonder if it will actually happen.
 

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The show quality Balinese do not have a longhair appearance, their coats lie very flat, I believe they are single coated like Siamese, but it should have a bottle brush tail.
 
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Originally Posted by elizwithcat

Well, it sure doesn't sound good. I got my papers the same day I got my two persian cats. I did get one of my persians at 10 weeks, and he was a big fine kitten, though. Some breeders do wait on giving customers paper until the prove of spay/neuter, but yours never told you that. Did you call the vet she give you the number of? Does such a person even exist? As for her promising you part of a vet bill, she could have just lied to you again.
She gave me the number of her vet which I passed on to my vet. Well I got her name and address and I found out that breeders have been banned for what she has done. I am planning to complain to the GCCF if she does not pay the bill. I am so fed up of this.

The poor little kitty all she does is cry when left alone. She is barely eating and has diahrea. All i seem to do is cry with her.
 

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Originally Posted by Sims2fan

She gave me the number of her vet which I passed on to my vet. Well I got her name and address and I found out that breeders have been banned for what she has done. I am planning to complain to the GCCF if she does not pay the bill. I am so fed up of this.

The poor little kitty all she does is cry when left alone. She is barely eating and has diahrea. All i seem to do is cry with her.
I know how you feel. My Scaredy also got sick a few days after I got him. He had a reaction to anti-flea medication, which I didn't know at the time. My vet even thought Scaredy had FIP. Poor thing never recovered mentally from being sick.
 
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How long did it take him to get better? The vet indicated that hs ethink Dani is even younger than the breeder said, which could explain the reaction to the vaccine.
Poor baby! The ironic thing is once I saw her I completly fell in love with her, had the breeder asked me to wait I would have.

She ate raw chicken almsot heartily today, I am so happy to have fouund something for her to eat which doesn't require force feeding. I still have to force her with the syringe to eat some of the vet food and to drink water. It makes me feel so bad that I worry she will hate me and be damaged psychologically. My other kitten has become a lot more noisy and clingy as a result. He keeps wanting to eat her vet food and its so hard to say no.

I keep crying everyday because I am scared that she will die. Please think of Dani maybe it will help her get better. Thank you to everyone who replied, people I don't know, that makes me feel like I'm not alone.
 

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You are doing all the right things, I think, and don't worry - she will not hate you. I have had to force feed all three of mine by syringe at one time or another (and I am now doing it with the little stray kittens I found) and none of them hate me. Indeed as they get better they seem to quite enjoy it. And one advantage is that now I can give any of them medicine that way and they don't fight it!
 

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Originally Posted by CyberKitten

I am surprised a reputable breeder would sell a cat at just 10 weeks of age. That is not the norm nor is it recommended. Have you asked your breeder about that? I am glad to hear she offered to pay part of the bill but I am concerned that any breeder would be selling a young kitten - too young to leave its moma - and that she sold you an ill cat. Havr you reported her to the local Cat's Association? Local Cat Fancy group? What was her reputation prior to the purchase - in the event this is an an isolated incident on her part but the fact she'd sell you a kitten that young gives me bad vibes!
Excuse me but in some organisations 10 weeks IS the norm. Here in NZ we are allowed to let a kitten go at ten weeks. Please don't be commenting on something you know nothing about.
 

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Originally Posted by elizwithcat

10 weeks is not that young. I got my kit in 10 weeks and he was big and healthy.
That said, this woman doesn't sound like a reputable breeder at all.
The fact that she didn't give any papers with the kitten suggest that this kitten might not even be purebred and most likely isn't registered.
Listen, RESPONSIBLE breeders hold the owners papers and the pedigree(they may get a copy) until they have in hand proof that the kitten has been desexed. It's the responsible thing to do!!
 

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Originally Posted by TNR1

I think most reputable breeders who have pet quality kittens hold the papers until they receive the S/N certificate...otherwise, how could a breeder enforce that the owner isn't breeding a pet quality kitten?

Katie
Absolutely, Katie! You pinned the tail on the donkey!
 

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Originally Posted by elizwithcat

I got papers on both of my persians when I bought them. When the breeder tells you he/she will give you the papers later, turn away because something fishy is going on.
If the breeder wants to wait until you spay or neuter, that will be in a contract.
When you have no contract and no papers, do not buy from that person.
Just because you have two experiences doesn't mean they are right. *I* think it is fishy that they gave you the papers straight away.
 

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Originally Posted by Sims2fan

She gave me the number of her vet which I passed on to my vet. Well I got her name and address and I found out that breeders have been banned for what she has done. I am planning to complain to the GCCF if she does not pay the bill. I am so fed up of this.

The poor little kitty all she does is cry when left alone. She is barely eating and has diahrea. All i seem to do is cry with her.
I'm sorry but since the contract is verbal you wont have much of a case or anything.
 

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Originally Posted by blacksunshine89

Im sorry to hear about your baby , it is very nice that the breeder is offering to help with the vet bill, i can relate to buying a sick cat , In april of this year i baught two cornish rex kittens from a breeder in n.c. , on the day i recieved them i noticed they were sneezing and cauhging , then i noticed that she wrote a little note that said they were getting sick, so she knew they were sick before she sent them, come to find out she sold all of her cats with feline herpes, which i know is common in catteries, but people with a concious wont sell you a sick cat knowing it is sick and will be contagiouse to all of your other cats, the cats i got gave two of my siamese the virus and as a result i had to get rid of four of my cats because i couldant have the rest getting the virus, if people would only think about what they are doing and what they put people through when they sell a sick cat because it is heartbreaking to have to loss a member of your animal family all at the expence of somebody elses greed and carelessness,
well i hope your baby gets well and i hope you enjoy it.
Don't mean to sound rude by why would any one accept a kitten that is obviouly sick the day they get it? I personally would NOT accept the kitten unless it looked perfect! As with anything you buy it is buyer beware. You must take some responsibility for buying an obviously sick animal! And it's not always the breeders fault when a new kitten gets sick. Sometimes a perfectly healthy kitten can get sick as soon as it arrives at your home. Stress from a new home and being away from momma/littermates makes many kittens ill for a little while. If your very concerned ask the breeder if you can have the kitten looked at (at you own expense) by a vet before you bring the kitten home and close the deal. But ALWAYS insist on a contract and if the breeder won't provide you with a written contract- walk away!!

By the way, I just wanted to add that feline herpes is a very minor disease and I can't believe you would get rid of your cats because of that! All you have to do is put L-Lysine in thier food daily and it will clear right up!!
 

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Originally Posted by Sims2fan

How long did it take him to get better? The vet indicated that hs ethink Dani is even younger than the breeder said, which could explain the reaction to the vaccine.
Poor baby! The ironic thing is once I saw her I completly fell in love with her, had the breeder asked me to wait I would have.

She ate raw chicken almsot heartily today, I am so happy to have fouund something for her to eat which doesn't require force feeding. I still have to force her with the syringe to eat some of the vet food and to drink water. It makes me feel so bad that I worry she will hate me and be damaged psychologically. My other kitten has become a lot more noisy and clingy as a result. He keeps wanting to eat her vet food and its so hard to say no.

I keep crying everyday because I am scared that she will die. Please think of Dani maybe it will help her get better. Thank you to everyone who replied, people I don't know, that makes me feel like I'm not alone.
Proably couple of weeks. But Scaredy had a reaction to his flea medication, and most likely not the same thing that is wrong with Dani.
I hope Dani makes it and gets healthy.
 

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well first off my kittens were shiped to me so it was hard for me to look at them all the way in north carolina befor i braught them home or i would never had agreed, and secand acording to my vets is a serious disease and my cats were on antibiotics and L-Lysine for months befor i gave them up ,plus they spread it to my other cats just because they were in the same house, if i had any other option i would not have given them up as it broke my heart, i went through hell to get the cats from that so called reputable breeder and in the end she won, all she cared about was gettin money, because i know for a fact that my cats were not the only ones she sold sick with feline herpes.
 

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Originally Posted by elizwithcat

10 weeks is not that young. I got my kit in 10 weeks and he was big and healthy.
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The recommended age is 12 weeks and there are good medical and behavioural reasons why. I do relaize there are situations where one may end up with a kitten younger than 12 weeks - an ill Queen, rescue, I myself have raised 4 bottle babies so I know realitsically one cannot always have the babies with mama till they are 12 weeks but no reputable breeder sells kittens prior to 12 weeks. If they do, you find another breeder. IO am glad to hear yours are fine tho!!

The following article explains it much better than I:

http://www.breedlist.com/faq/young.html

And this is a fairly adequate overview:
http://www.fabcats.org/choosingapedigreekitten.html
I must concur with the others - while this woman at least offered to help with the vet bills, she does not sound to me like a totally reputable breeder. She is not doing the things the breeders who have posted here - who follow more strict and proper guidelines.
 
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bengalbabe said:
Don't mean to sound rude by why would any one accept a kitten that is obviouly sick the day they get it?

The kitten looked fine while at the breeders my issue is that the breeder lied and gave me a kitten that was far too young. This in my opinion is a very cruel thing to do as she had not been properly weaned yet. She did look very small when I saw her but I had been told by many people that Siamese kittens are small in comparison to other breeds. This woman said the same, she seemed genuine showing me the mother and father and siblings. The siblings did looks bigger than her but they were male and she said that the males are much bigger. In fact I said are you sure she is ten weeks old and she said yes.

Wellington, there was no contract signed concerning the release of predigree/transfer papers upon neutering.
 
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