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post #1 of 26
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I know there are quite a few Bush haters here, but at least here we all realize that we all are entitled to our opinions. This guy should be prosecuted to the fullest extent possible, and I would have said the same thing if someone spray painted "LOSER" on the cars that still have Kerry stickers on them.

What has happened to this country where someone thinks this is acceptable? What happened to Freedom of Expression? Disagree with someone vehemently, but to vandalize random cars to make a point? Absolutely ridiculous!!
post #2 of 26
Well, Heidi, I'm no Bush fan, but I agree with you 1000%. I have no affection for our Provincial premier, either, and I can be quite vocal about it, but vandalize the property of someone who disagrees?? NOT! Not even his election lawn signs!
post #3 of 26
I hope he has to pay back every dollar for the damage he has done! That is beyond pathetic! I don't care why did he it, because he hates Bush, whether it had been against Kerry, or just some guy down the street, it's inexcusible
post #4 of 26
As much as I dislike Dubya and his policies, that guy obviously has a screw loose! Either that, or he's just plain stupid!
post #5 of 26
We're all in agreement so far.
post #6 of 26
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Originally Posted by rapunzel47
Well, Heidi, I'm no Bush fan, but I agree with you 1000%. I have no affection for our Provincial premier, either, and I can be quite vocal about it, but vandalize the property of someone who disagrees?? NOT! Not even his election lawn signs!
Hmm, I once thought about running down one of Klein's (our Provincial Premier) election signs with my car... but that might cause too much damage to my car

But on the serious side, I agree with you. Anyone can TALK about it, sometimes not even maturely (that isn't directed at you Fran, just in general), but that is why we have freedom of speech and not freedom to vandalize.
post #7 of 26
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Originally Posted by ash_bct
Hmm, I once thought about running down one of Klein's (our Provincial Premier) election signs with my car... but that might cause too much damage to my car
Tempting, I know

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But on the serious side, I agree with you. Anyone can TALK about it, sometimes not even maturely (that isn't directed at you Fran, just in general), but that is why we have freedom of speech and not freedom to vandalize.
Exactly! (And no, I did not take that personally )
post #8 of 26
He would have made a better point had he spray painted all that stuff on his car and just drove around town in it : )
post #9 of 26
He is a Colonel in the military to boot. What a disgrace to his uniform and
the country.
post #10 of 26
While I sympathize with his opinion of the Commander-in-Chief, it gives the rest of us vehemently opposed to Bush a bad name and makes us look like a bunch of idiots if this is the best thing we can come up with to speak out against Bush.
post #11 of 26
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Originally Posted by lionessrampant
While I sympathize with his opinion of the Commander-in-Chief, it gives the rest of us vehemently opposed to Bush a bad name and makes us look like a bunch of idiots if this is the best thing we can come up with to speak out against Bush.
Yeah, that's the saddest part -- what does he think he's accomplishing??
post #12 of 26
This guy has gone to far. No we don't like Bush, but you don't damage the property of others. Make signs showing your disaproval-yes, spray painting cars-NO!!
post #13 of 26
While I hate Bush with the fire of a thousand suns, I absolutely agree with you - disagreeing with someone else's politics does not give you the right to vandalise their property! I also hope that the person responsible is prosecuted and punished harshly - there is not excuse for that kind of behaviour.
post #14 of 26
Wow though I think we are missing the big picture here, he is IN the military. We are dealing with a lot of very angry people here. Have you heard this Paul Hackett guy, the Marine who ran in Ohio? He is pissed, and is developing this following even though he lost.
post #15 of 26
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Originally Posted by Marge
Wow though I think we are missing the big picture here, he is IN the military. We are dealing with a lot of very angry people here. Have you heard this Paul Hackett guy, the Marine who ran in Ohio? He is pissed, and is developing this following even though he lost.
No, that's not the big picture. Honestly, who CARES what his profession is? One guy's obsession somehow justifies your view of the war because he's affiliated with the Air Force? Fine, I can give you at least 10 people I know personally in the military who support it. Does that change anything? No! The military is made up of all kinds of people, who have various political leanings. I'm sure there were a lot of them who wouldn't vote Republican for any reason. That doesn't mean anything, especially in this divided political climate.

I wouldn't care if he was a doctor, lawyer, gas station attendant, cook or member of the Air Force Reserves. The reaction is the same. He went to far. He has every right to oppose Bush and everything about him, but destroying property isn't included in those rights.
post #16 of 26
Heidi, we are dealing with a lot of military angst right now, which is a change. I heard Paul Hacket on the radio yesterday, he still does drills on the weekends etc, and he is like this rock starr now with his buds in the military. And he doesn't mince words. I am not saying this guy was right with the bumper stickers, what I am saying is there is a lot of anger out there.
post #17 of 26
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Originally Posted by Marge
Heidi, we are dealing with a lot of military angst right now, which is a change. I heard Paul Hacket on the radio yesterday, he still does drills on the weekends etc, and he is like this rock starr now with his buds in the military. And he doesn't mince words. I am not saying this guy was right with the bumper stickers, what I am saying is there is a lot of anger out there.
I don't think it's anywhere near confined to the military - it's the whole country. The military is a microcosm of society.
post #18 of 26
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Originally Posted by valanhb
I don't think it's anywhere near confined to the military - it's the whole country. The military is a microcosm of society.
Yeah but when it's in the military it's different. These are guys trained to not defy orders, not like the wanton rest of us.
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by Marge
Yeah but when it's in the military it's different. These are guys trained to not defy orders, not like the wanton rest of us.
Not defying orders and not having opinions are totally different matters. They aren't brainwashed when they go into the military. All of those in the military that I know still have their own thoughts and opinions. Why is this so surprising? Is the public really that uninformed about what the military is and isn't that anyone who disagrees with current policy is shocking?
post #20 of 26
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Originally Posted by valanhb
Not defying orders and not having opinions are totally different matters. They aren't brainwashed when they go into the military. All of those in the military that I know still have their own thoughts and opinions. Why is this so surprising? Is the public really that uninformed about what the military is and isn't that anyone who disagrees with current policy is shocking?
It is different, you are talking about a voting block that is like 70 percent for Bush, now turning on him?
post #21 of 26
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Originally Posted by Marge
It is different, you are talking about a voting block that is like 70 percent for Bush, now turning on him?
That still leaves 30% who didn't vote for him, which I'm sure this guy didn't. This is taking pot shots in the dark using a grand total of 2 concrete examples and saying this is representative of the entire military.
post #22 of 26
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Originally Posted by Marge
Wow though I think we are missing the big picture here, he is IN the military. We are dealing with a lot of very angry people here. Have you heard this Paul Hackett guy, the Marine who ran in Ohio? He is pissed, and is developing this following even though he lost.
What does his being in the military have to do with anything? That does not confer on him any extra rights in terms of the expression of his opinion. This is not about whether this opinion should be a surprise or not -- it's about the complete inappropriateness of its expression. The number of "angry" people does not validate the use of vandalism.
post #23 of 26
Yesterday I heard a clip of Paul Hackett calling Rush Limbaugh a lard ass jerk (Rush picked on him about something, Rush having all the balls to get out of the military for like a bad back or something..), I mean you gotta realize military guys love this guy. He is very blunt cause he says that is how"they talk in the military" etc.
post #24 of 26
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Originally Posted by rapunzel47
What does his being in the military have to do with anything? That does not confer on him any extra rights in terms of the expression of his opinion. This is not about whether this opinion should be a surprise or not -- it's about the complete inappropriateness of its expression. The number of "angry" people does not validate the use of vandalism.
I still say it's matter big time, I mean yes perhaps 30 percent don't vote for Bush but do they do graffitti about it?
post #25 of 26
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Originally Posted by Marge
I still say it's matter big time, I mean yes perhaps 30 percent don't vote for Bush but do they do graffitti about it?
The same can be said for the rest of the population, surely. I don't understand what his being in the military changes. What he did is wrong. Period.
post #26 of 26
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Originally Posted by Marge
Yesterday I heard a clip of Paul Hackett calling Rush Limbaugh a lard ass jerk (Rush picked on him about something, Rush having all the balls to get out of the military for like a bad back or something..), I mean you gotta realize military guys love this guy. He is very blunt cause he says that is how"they talk in the military" etc.
First, this shows how much you know about the military. Particularly in times of "peace", if a medical condition, such as a bad back, precludes you from performing your assigned job duty, the military will give a Medical Discharge. In many cases it isn't asked for.

How many "military guys" do you actually know? Do you know that all of them "love this guy"? Obviously not, particularly since your own stats say that 30% didn't vote for him. Gimme a break.

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Originally Posted by Marge
I still say it's matter big time, I mean yes perhaps 30 percent don't vote for Bush but do they do graffitti about it?
Hmm, let's see... There were what, about 46% of American voters who didn't vote for him, and just how many of those are doing graffitti about it? The argument doesn't make any sense. Just because this guy is in the military doesn't mean that his deviant behavior means any more than any other citizen.
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