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permethrin dropped from planes in sacramento!

post #1 of 15
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So they are trying to kill the mosqitos in sacramento and they are flying planes over and dropping this pesticide(permethrin) in the air for 1 week! Is this going to hurt my cats?? I have a stud that stays out in his outdoor enclosure and I can't bring him in because he's too hard to catch and he's agressive. I don't know what to do!!! Im so mad they'd drop that stuff on us
I mean I can't bring my horses inside either!
Last night a plane flew over our house 4 times dropping it and it's going on again tonight and throughout the week. We live right by the river so I think they are dropping more here then other places in Sacramento. Sacramento is a valley too so smog and pollutents get trapped in here bad as it is already. I don't know how long this stuff lasts but it worries me.
post #2 of 15
Call your vet...I wonder how the local farmers and other horse owners in your area are dealing with this?

I just don't know if inhaling this is dangerous but your vet will know.
post #3 of 15
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well they do say to bring all pets inside, turn off air conditioners and vents, close windows and stay inside during the spray times. So it must not be too good for the animals that cannot come inside! I know local organic farmers are very upset. Im very upset as I have asthma as it is. This stuff is a neurotoxin and can make certain people sick. My daughter is not feeling well at all today and has a fever and is lethargic. I wonder if it has something to do with the spraying last night. She was at her grandmas house and her grandma thought the spraying was over and turned on her swamp cooler right at the height of the spraying time.
post #4 of 15
Do you know how concentrated the Permethrin is? What %?

I spray the stuff on my horse, it is a common fly spray for dogs and horses but it says do not use on cats. I have called manufacturers of Permethrin and Pyrethrin fly sprays and I am pretty sure they told me the stuff is poisonous to cats. The barn cats seem unaffected by being around my horse who is sprayed with the stuff and I have an automatic fly sprayer in his stall that emits a short burst of 0.975% Pyrethrins. This is considered a high concentration. If my memory serves me correctly Pyrethrin and Permethrin have the same effect only one is synthetic and one is derived from the chrysanthemum flower.

I would be very concerned and would keep my cats inside for the time it is advised that you do so...

Oh yeah and *you* need to stay inside too, expecially with your asthma! My barn manager is very sensitive to chemicals and my fly spray sends her into coughing and sneezing fits if she breathes any of it in!
post #5 of 15
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Thanks for the info. Im even sensitive to perfumes and it feels as if my throat is closing and someone is sitting on my chest. I don't use fly sprays on my horses anymore because I didn't like it blowing back on me. I swear more would get on me then the horse. Also I have read that flies are largely resistent to permethrin.
I forget what the concetration and the amount that is being dropped but I would say enough of the stuff dropped from planes to affect mosquitos on the ground is enough to affect at least some of us more sensitive ones.
I'll go ahead and lure my stud in from his outdoor enclosure into his "house" part but it is not very airtight so outside air will still come in but at least the stuff wont drop directly on him because it has a roof. I worry about him. I cant catch him to bring him inside the house.
post #6 of 15
I find the best fly solution for my horse is his extra long Cashel Crusader fly mask with ears. It also keeps his pink nose from getting sunburnt!
post #7 of 15
if they are saying bring in all your pets and such, what about all the wild animals? will they suffer with any symptom? sorry, just wondering, that is kinda scary!! i would be worried to, is that something they commonly do in canada?
post #8 of 15
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Originally Posted by enigma
is that something they commonly do in canada?
She's actually from California, not Canada...
post #9 of 15
Horses can get west nile disease from mosquitos. It is probably good for your horses that they are spraying! Hopefully your cat will be okay in his enclosure. Although I do wonder when you say your stud cat is aggressive-Ithought usually cats for breeding were supposed to be good physically, and have a good temperament? (I'm not trying to start a war here, just asking!)
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by Beckiboo
Horses can get west nile disease from mosquitos. It is probably good for your horses that they are spraying! Hopefully your cat will be okay in his enclosure. Although I do wonder when you say your stud cat is aggressive-Ithought usually cats for breeding were supposed to be good physically, and have a good temperament? (I'm not trying to start a war here, just asking!)
Well that's a matter of opinion on aggresive breeder cats. Some think it's genetic some think it's the way a cat was raised. I don't agree at least in this case that it is genetic. None of this studs offspring have been agressive at all! As a matter of fact I have gotten emails and letters from owners that say how friendly thier cats are to people and other cats!
I got this stud after he was full grown and I suspect that he was only used for breeding and not properly socialized.
As far as horses go-yes they can get west nile from mosquitos but I already spent a ton of money vaccinating them for that and I think it's overkill by spraying all of sacramento with poision. I think the "cure" is way worse then the problem.
post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by bengalbabe
I got this stud after he was full grown and I suspect that he was only used for breeding and not properly socialized.
That is kind of sad. I'm sure there are many animals out there like that, that are never loved and truly cared for, but just used to make a profit due to their bloodlines and paperwork. Too bad you didn't have him as a kit, he would probably be inside getting lots of cuddling.

I live out in the sticks, so no one sprays for 'skeeters here. We also vaccinate our horses against west nile.
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by Beckiboo
That is kind of sad. I'm sure there are many animals out there like that, that are never loved and truly cared for, but just used to make a profit due to their bloodlines and paperwork. Too bad you didn't have him as a kit, he would probably be inside getting lots of cuddling.

I live out in the sticks, so no one sprays for 'skeeters here. We also vaccinate our horses against west nile.
I know my kids always say he has a cute meow and they want to cuddle and pet him but they can't. He also looks so innocent untill you get close to him then he is not to be messed with. Im working on him though. He will come to me now when I call him and he will let me get close when he eat but he won't really let me touch him just yet. Hopefully one day he'll learn to trust me. I was making a lot of progress with him when I had him in a smaller cage he would allow me to pet him sometimes but now that he's in his large enclosure he has regressed.
I can't say for sure that he was not socialized as a kitten because I don't know for sure but regardless he does produce some wonderful, friendly kittens and he's happy in his nice big enclosure.
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by CCSR79
She's actually from California, not Canada...
ooopps, sorry, was late at night while i was reading this post and was super tired, that is what i get for being on here so late.
post #14 of 15
Would it be possible to cover the enclosure with some kind of (breathable) tarp during spraying?

Craig
post #15 of 15
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well I let him out into the enclosed patio. At least all sides are covered except the side with wire but it has a fine mesh over it. That will give him some protection but not as much as bringing him in.
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