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10 for 1 not a bad deal, well in your case I guess it would be
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Maybe it's time to get that air conditioner?Originally Posted by carolcat
I love the doll faces too. I wish it didn't get SOOO hot where I live so that I could have one myself. I can't wait to see the beautiful kittens that you will have. SIGH....I want one....
"Kittys are like tater chips, once you start its hard to stop!"
You will never get that "cat is using me as a cat tree" with a persian.
Maybe I could send you my Scaredy, the little peeing wonder.
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LMAO...i think i will keep the one..thank you hehe.Originally Posted by halfpint
Oh heck I want one, I must have a bigole hole in my head or had amnesia for a moment I forgot I still have 10I'll trade ya
10 for 1 not a bad deal, well in your case I guess it would be
if his personality comes even close to his looks then you are very lucky! i thought my cats were beautiful, but he is exceptionally so...enjoy him!
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thank you we sure do plan on enjoying him. hes going to be one spoiled baby.
Gee, thanks for the offer ........hurm......"little peeing wonder" huh? Purrrhaps I will pass this timeOriginally Posted by elizwithcat
Maybe it's time to get that air conditioner?
You will never get that "cat is using me as a cat tree" with a persian.
Maybe I could send you my Scaredy, the little peeing wonder.
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Oh wow he is SO cute! I just adore grey and white kitties there's something about them - they just look like they'd be softer than most cats!!
LOL as a breeder breeding persians that strive to meet the standard I detest when people call their long nosed persians "doll faces" it cracks me up. Any line ties with the future queens & future stud?
I think people call them doll faced Persians, because they look like little dolls. Is the proper term, long nosed Persians? I kind of wish they'd back the long nosed into the standard, because they are so beautiful.
I think it came into usage just as a term to differentiate the longer nosed style from extreme show style. Like the difference between the "Wedgehead" and "Applehead" or "Traditional" style of Siamese. My PERSONAL preference is for something between the two, like the cats you saw about 25 years or so ago, good coat, cobby body with good bone, flat face but not peke-faced (I keep my peke faces on my Peke, thank you very much
). Tribble (Mossrose Jade Blue) a blue-cream point I had about 20 years ago was very much like that.
If you look at pix of antique "baby dolls" you can definitely see the snub-nosed similarity
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If you look at pix of antique "baby dolls" you can definitely see the snub-nosed similarity
Hope, we call them long nosed persians here in NZ & Aussie because they are no use to our breeding or showing programmes. I've only met the term doll faced here at TCS, I don't like it though. They're all Persians some are show quality and some are long nosed. Not saying I like the long nosed jobs any less though. I love Persians!
See I don't believe in this term either. They are either show quality siamese or not. We don't use the term "Peke" faced here either. My two cats in my signature are very much show quality cats and we strive here to meet the standard.Originally Posted by RoseHawke
I think it came into usage just as a term to differentiate the longer nosed style from extreme show style. Like the difference between the "Wedgehead" and "Applehead" or "Traditional" style of Siamese. My PERSONAL preference is for something between the two, like the cats you saw about 25 years or so ago, good coat, cobby body with good bone, flat face but not peke-faced (I keep my peke faces on my Peke, thank you very much). Tribble (Mossrose Jade Blue) a blue-cream point I had about 20 years ago was very much like that.
If you look at pix of antique "baby dolls" you can definitely see the snub-nosed similarity!
Anyway off my soap box!
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No, it's not a proper term.
First of all, doll faced persians don't have long noses. Their noses are actually shorter than any of the regular moggy cat's. So, why should they be called long nosed? In fact, maybe show style persians should be called short nosed.
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Look, you might be unfamiliar with a term, but doll face persian is used by everybody in US to describe the traditional style persian cat that actually has more of a normally proportioned nose. Calling these cats long nosed would be misleading.Originally Posted by WellingtonCats
Hope, we call them long nosed persians here in NZ & Aussie because they are no use to our breeding or showing programmes. I've only met the term doll faced here at TCS, I don't like it though. They're all Persians some are show quality and some are long nosed. Not saying I like the long nosed jobs any less though. I love Persians!
Why are these beautiful sweet faced Persians with noses not desirable for show? Why would the breed standard be peke faced? I don't think they're prettier with a Peke face. I honestly don't understand. I'm not trying to be feisty or anything. I think the older style Persian is just about the most beautiful cat on the earth, next to Bengal's of course LOL. Honestly, if I saw both types, I would prefer the older style Persian. Why would breeders try to breed out the nose? I had a peke face Persian, which I'm sure you remember, my little Stanley and loved him and thought he was beautiful, but I wish I could have an old style Persian, and I wish they would be accepted as show quality, because they are so beautiful.Originally Posted by WellingtonCats
Hope, we call them long nosed persians here in NZ & Aussie because they are no use to our breeding or showing programmes. I've only met the term doll faced here at TCS, I don't like it though. They're all Persians some are show quality and some are long nosed. Not saying I like the long nosed jobs any less though. I love Persians!
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no the lines will not be related in ties at all. I am not one for inbreeding, or line breeding as it is called in the Arab world. I like to keep my lines Seperate as possible to keep out any doubleing up on possible genetic problems.
The term I have learned from many to tell between the two is Doll face and Peke face. yes all are persian, the doll face is the traditional Persian funny enough. Show ring "hot right now" or not. Some do not strive to breed the extreme Peke face, which is getting more and more extreme in some lines, and causeing major breathing problems and that is the "hot in the ring now" style. I keep my "gotta have it now" out of my horses and dogs, i will do so with my cats as well.
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hehehe thank you. My friend says he is super soft!Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva!
Oh wow he is SO cute! I just adore grey and white kitties there's something about them - they just look like they'd be softer than most cats!!
Ummm, I think this might need to be another thread, perhaps in Breeder's Corner to discuss it more fully.
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I agree. I like the old style classic faces with my Persians. Often called the Doll faced. Just like I love my classic refined, yet not overly extreme head with my Arabians.
If i dont win in the show ring because of it. I guess thats the choice of the judge. But in size, quality, conformation, temperment, ect my animals meet standard. and IMO Ares exceeds some points. and will compliement my females well.
Unless they were to write something into the standard like "penalize for extreme peke face" then the extreme cats will continue winning, and since most hobby* breeders, being human, like to win and title their cats that's what will be bred. Like Katie says about the very extreme halter Arabs that can do little else. At least the Arabs have other venues (performance, endurance, etc.) where they can prove their worth against their peers regardless of how huge their eyes are or extremely dished their faces.
*I do not mean this in a derogatory fashion, au contraire, for most their hobby is their passion.
*I do not mean this in a derogatory fashion, au contraire, for most their hobby is their passion.
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