Originally Posted by HopeHacker
I will say, that every time I have gone to Toronto, I've found the nicest, most polite people I've ever seen.
Wow, people down int he States must REALLY be horribly rude then, because I find many Torontonians (not all, of course) *incredibly* rude and NOT nice at all (as compared with the people where I grew up in rural Ontario).
Nice? I will never forget the time I was forced to carry a rather large, extremely heavy (70 lbs.?) box home on the bus/subway (I don't drive) in the dead of winter through a lot of snow. It was evident that I was struggling and having a lot of difficulty, but rather than lending a hand, all the way home, people told me off for taking up to much space (it wasn't rush hour, so there was plenty of space on the train/bus), for going too slow getting on/off the train (because I was weighed down), etc. Then when I finally got it off the subway I was too tired to carry it anymore so had to drag it home in the snow, and all the way up the sidewalk people were pointing and laughing and still not helping, including when the bottom rotted out from the snow and all the contents fell out. And that's just one example of the 'niceness' I've encountered here. You could probably lie across the sidewalk, mangled and bloody, and people would just step over you and probably tell you off for having to do so, in this city.
Polite? Well, this may just be the result of the fact that Toronto is extremely multicultural and has many immigrants (which for other reasons, is great), and I think maybe some cultures have different ideas about what is a polite and appropriate way to behave, and also that many individuals probably have language barriers, so I try to be a bit more tolerant of the rudeness, but at a certain point, when in Rome, do like the freaking Romans - there's a Chinese fruit market next to me, for example, and one day last summer I went in their with the little guy I was nannying for. As probably demonstrated by my above post, I don't tolerate bad behaviour from kids in public at all, so the child was not misbehaving - he had his hand hanging out from the side of the stroller, within about 10 cms of a display of flowers (there was no way he could have reached them anyway) - well, the owner saw him and started YELLING at him 'DON'T TOUCH! DON'T TOUCH!' and then at me 'TELL DON'T TOUCH!' over and over. I mean, real, angry yelling. The kid was not touching anything, and couldn't physically possibly have touched anything because it was too far away, and I told the guy this, but he kept on yelling at me - I was his customer, for crying out loud! Again, just one examplr out of many- I have found that many, many small business owners here are extremely rude to the customers. I recently sold some furniture on craigslist, and was astonished by the way that people who called to inquire about it spoke to me - rude, snapping, demanding, no please or thank you - again, it may be a language barrier thing, but still! And not to be unfairly discrimanatory, the rich white yuppies in my neighbourhood are probably the worst of all, especially because they have no excuse such as a language barrier - they're the ones who like to let their kids run wild, as I described in my above post, and they treat customer service personnel in a haughty, demanding, disrespectful way that just makes me sick.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I love Toronto for a LOT of reasons, but the behaviour and attitude of a lot of the people here (again, not *all* of course, there are *some* very nice, polite ones) is one of the very few things I *don't* like about it - maybe it's just because I didn't grow up here and things were very different where I grew up (small town), but I really am regularly shocked by just how rude and not nice the people here are.