Originally Posted by elizwithcat
By the way, back yard breeder would be anyone who didn't spay their cat and that cat got pregnant with kittens. So, how do you propose they should be punished for that?
You have your views, you say other people don't have to agree with it-fine. But then you state we all MUST adopt from shelters.
No, we mustn't all adopt from shelters. It's our right to choose and decide what we want to do instead of being obligated to do something we don't want to do. I have a right to make a choice on doing what is right for me.
If it's right for you and many people to adopt from shelters, that doesn't make it so for other people. By the way, I don't contribute to over population of cats. My cats are neutered. At the same time, many people with moggies do contribute to over population, by not spaying their cats and allowing those cats to have kittens. A person that adopts a shelter cat might easily contribute to over population with that one cat alone having a large number of kittens. The goal is to have people care for their pets responcibly, not dump them when they get tired of them, spay and neuter. THat could solve the problem of over population much better than eliminating purebred registered cats that only constitute 1 % of total cat population anyway.
Even if you prevented all purebred cats from breeding, it wouldn't solve a problem, simply because they only constitute a very small perecentage of cat population. It woud be like a drop in a bucket, and you would loose all the wonderful breeds people worked hard to achieve. I would say you would get no benefits whatsoever, and wouldn't solve or even help the problem.
But, what matters is the concept. You say you have a choice to own whatever cat you want, well, that's your perogative, but I feel like what individuals do when they make the choice on what their cat looks like, etc, is that they are treating these wonderful living creatures as a market, a commodity, a designer object. No, preventing responsible breeding wouldn't solve the overpopulation problem by itself, I agree with you there. But as I said in my last post and was wildly misconstrued is that by allowing your average pet-owner layman this choice, you are furthering the belief that these animals are property, something to be chosen, and then, in many cases, thrown out. When we further that belief, we further the belief that we can play God with them. Have I lost you yet? It's like a lot of things: something small and seemingly harmless contributes to a really horrible belief system being reinforced. I feel like the whole attitude needs to be changed, and that begins with ending the idea that we can have this perfect kitten created for us. When people adopt children, they don't say, well, I want a caucasian, blue eyed, brown haired child who likes soccer and reading and is generally laid back. That's absurd! And yet, this is the way we treat our animals. If we treated our animals the way we treat people, well, then shelters would be the only option. And like the amount of children without parents, the amount of pets without homes is shameful.
Personally, I feel that breeding reinforces the whole ludicrous notion that we own animals, that they should serve some purpose (especially aesthetic) beyond good company and a loving companion to meet our own needs and that we as humans can control animals and choose animals and dismiss animals. This whole belief is I think what fuels the neglect and mistreatment of animals that you refer to...you can extrapolate that out even further and take a look at the meat and dairy industries! Eek! I think this to be one of the most disappointing aspects of our society. As Gandhi said, the value of a society can be measured by how we treat our animals.
You're probably sitting there going, Now she's gone and done it. We went from debating the merits of shelters and responsible breeding and now we're having this philosophical response about the treatment of animals. I just feel that they are strongly, strongly connected. I feel that more than the action itself, it's the attitude that is born from that action. I'm not saying that anyone here doesn't absolutely love their cats, because I KNOW that everyone here on TCS is a wonderful, loving and informed cat parent.
And I know that some moggy parents do the mistreatment and backyard breeding...though, I doubt they were adopted from shelters, as every shelter I have ever seen spays and neuters all of its animals. And yes, I realize that statistically, purebreds aren't the actual, tangible problem. Basically, my point is this: The overpopulation problem is one that results from careless treatment of animals. I think we all agree on this and we all believe that it is so wrong. I think, however, that careless treatment of animals results from the notion that these animals are disposable and owned property, like a pair of shoes or a TV. I think that breeding and making cat ownership an open market with these choices is one of the many things (alone with poor education of pet-owners) that fuels this belief. If we left the choice to responsible, progressive, well-informed shelters, the attitude would eventually change.