I really debated on replying to this statement", but I had to. I guess you don't understand it nor will you understand the emotions that these veterans have have of this "woman" (I'm being nice). One other thing. She was 34 years old. Yes 34. not a 20 year old bimbo like Jessica Simpson (really bad comparison btw, try again). She knew exactly what the hell she was doing.
Here is are excerpts from a website here written by a Vietnam Veteran
that gives good descriptions on her activties on maybe why maybe so many veterans hate her:Jane Fonda also helped in the organization of a production group called the F.T.A. (F*** The Army). This group helped to set up coffee houses near military bases where they would perform anti-war derogatory-type sketches for the visiting soldiers. The coffee-house sketches were intended to counterpoint the U.S.O. shows, such as Bob Hope and other U.S.O. sponsored performers whose performances increased morale and gave positive support to American soldiers. Some of the F.T.A. coffee house employees would mingle with the soldiers to help them to "relax and unwind", while encouraging the soldiers to desert. Some soldiers alleged that they were promised jobs and money by the F.T.A. if they deserted.Thats not all folks...In 1972 Jane Fonda, Tom Hayden and others traveled to North Vietnam to give their support to the North Vietnamese's Government. When she returned to the United States, she advised the news media that all of the American Prisoners of War were being well treated and were not being tortured.
As the American POWs returned home in 1973, they spoke out about the inhumane treatment and torture they had suffered as prisoners of war. Their stories directly contradicted Jane Fonda's earlier statements of 1972. Some of the American POWs such as Senator John McCain, a former Presidential candidate, stated that he was tortured by his guards for refusing to meet with groups such as Jane Fonda's. Jane Fonda, in her response to these new allegations, referred to the returning POWs as being "hypocrites and liars."
Speaking of the POW's, did you know that the POW's who refused or cooperate to meet with Jane were beaten? Taken from this site
:The final anecdote in the "Hanoi Jane" message recounts the experience of a POW who agreed to meet with Fonda but announced to his captors that he planned on telling her how horrid conditions in North Vietnamese prison camps really were.
"Because of this," the narrative continues, "I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a piece of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane every time my arms dipped."
Those words were written by Michael Benge, a civilian advisor captured by the Viet Cong in 1968 and held as a POW for 5 years. When I contacted him, he confirmed that the story was indeed his, and true.
Smarter then that? Tell that to the vets who served over there. Me and Heidi went to the Moving Vietnam Veteran Memorial a couple of weeks ago to pay respects who we have lost including recently. Inside the funeral home (it was done at a cemetary). I saw quite a few still saw a few Hanoi Jane Stickets Pins and Buttons, no sign of the famous Toilet Paper though. Yeah its a "cult" just make sure you don't tell that to the veterans.
for examples go here (Parental Discreation advised):http://www.lznam.com/images/V5.jpg
(my personal favorite, infact I just ordered one)http://www.lznam.com/images/J24.bmphttp://www.lznam.com/images/J21.bmp
One other thing that really disturbs me about Jane Fonda is this statement:"If you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would some day become communist." This was stated back in November 21, 1970. At Duke University in North Carolina she repeated what she had said in Michigan, adding "I, a socialist, think that we should strive toward a socialist society, all the way to communism." Washington Times July 7, 2000
Yeah we have a winner there folks. Oh yeah and your excuse for her sickness and being in a abusive relationship is a p*** poor excuse. She new exactly
, even to this day of what she was doing. You need to realize that she was doing this from 1967 to 1975â€¦ that nearly *8* years of this stuff. And she still spouts out about it, even though she may have â€œapologizedâ€ even though her recent actions of late have really made me wonder if she just did it for publicity. Yeah open more wounds up.
You know, maybe you should read the letter that this Vietnam Veteran received on tell him that he need "to get a grip" about Jane Fonda since it was 32 years ago. Her statement rings very much with your stance is. You can read it here.
Oh and in regards to McNamara, my father personally called him a "f**king idiot." Many more did too. He was very much disliked. However, McNamara was NOT a traitor in the soldiers eye's. He didn't go over to the North Vietnam side of things. Don't try to twist it either, that won't work. There is a difference from being a "f**king idiot" and traitor. Oh and in regards to Johnson and Nixon, yeah there are mixed feelings on them, especially Johnson and his stupid measures and deployments of American troops. But yet, they never were admitted communists and never gave fanfare to the North Vietnamese. And I donâ€™t recall them calling the POWâ€™s liars. Oh they arenâ€™t Urinal Cakes, they were urinal stickersâ€¦ check the noted links above. Oh and you can still find them at most American Legion and VFW posts as I have lately.
Maybe you should goto a VA or some veterans organization such as the American Legion, VFW, VVA, Viet-Now or smiliar organizations and ask a Veteran why they feel the way they do instead of ranting or "wondering" why she is hated so much. Or better yet, go to a Vietnam Veterans rally on Veterans Day or Memorial Day. I mean isn't that the real thing to do? I'm sorry there really isn't more to it. No really... there isn't.
Now back to the Jane Fonda Cheerleader(s)... and back to lurking.