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post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
www.nsopr.gov What's your reaction to this new site? I have mixed feelings. While I think people are entitled to know what manner of person is living next door, etc., I worry that this could lead to lynch justice. Also, suppose somebody found guilty of "public indecency", because he urinated in public, was labeled a sex offender and put on this list? Or somebody who was 18 or 19, and had consensual sex with a 15-year-old?
My initial reaction was to check for registered sex offenders in my sister's town (none), and in my mom's (several). I do find the fact that the offenders are "rated" according to the risk of recidivism helpful.
post #2 of 22
It's not available for use for me right now, so I can't check it out. But I'm sure I live near plenty of sex offenders.

The thing is, I hope it doesn't lull people into a false sense of security. You should be careful no matter where you live.
post #3 of 22
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Originally Posted by eatrawfish
It's not available for use for me right now, so I can't check it out. But I'm sure I live near plenty of sex offenders.

The thing is, I hope it doesn't lull people into a false sense of security. You should be careful no matter where you live.
Excellent point.

And yes,everyone lives near (or many "with") a sex offender at some point...
post #4 of 22
Florida all ready had a site set up for you to search for sexual offenders throughout the state. My fiance and I were just discussing this very thing last night. I am so torn because there are people on that list that have to register as sex offenders for small things like you mention urinating in public, or an 18 year old who has consenual sex with a 15 year old.
Some counties in Florida are trying to pass a law that makes beaches viewed as public parks which would prevent sex offenders from coming within approx. 9 blocks of the beach. I think this is great for violent offenders. (I personally think they should be locked up for life, but that's another topic ). There are always the few that just don't belong to that group.

I can't think of any other way it could be though. If you list only violent offenders there is the chance that the offenders that comitted the lesser crime will eventually commit violent crimes and there is no warning. Like I said, I am very torn on this issue.
post #5 of 22
Here is my not politically correct opnion... Keep the leval threes in jail period... leval two may get out but only with close monitoring( ie anklets) .. leval one intensive probation and find a new word for the 19 yr old sleept with 15 yr old girlfriend and public indecency since they arent what the average and reasonable person would say is a sex offender...

Had this been in place in my area on or before may 16 four people would be alive today and countless children not living thru a nightmare
post #6 of 22
I check in my area frequently. "Lynch justice" will only land us morally correct people (those of us who do not rape and murder children) in jail.

Harrassing or egging the house of a sex offender living on your street, threatening them or otherwise menacing them is illegal. It is here in KY, anyway. I'd certainly not take justice into my own hands; but I would warn my daughter and all of the girls on our street who play with my daughter to be very careful.

However, I have been saying that for years. Drumming it into their heads daily. You can't even trust John Q living next door to you, heck look at how the BTK killer was a church leader and upstanding guy!

Re: the level 3 offenders... I wish they'd just keep them locked up and in some type of therapy. I doubt therapy would help though.

What will help is more parents genuinely protecting and warning their kids. Keep doors locked, remind the kids every day how to deal with strangers. I know none of us are safe anymore from the wackos but at least stay vigilant.
post #7 of 22
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Originally Posted by darkeyedgirl
Harrassing or egging the house of a sex offender living on your street, threatening them or otherwise menacing them is illegal.
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Not only that, but at worst, it will likely drive the criminal underground where, then, no one will know where they are.
post #8 of 22
I think it is good to have them listed, but repeat violent offenders of children should get life in prison. It would shorten the list quite a bit, and keep a lot more kids safe!
post #9 of 22
They should have to register only if it was a serious crime. Not like urinating in public.

I knew Megan Kanka and lived only a few blocks away from her. Had something like Megan's law been in effect before.. her death could have been prevented.
post #10 of 22
i think it's an important thing to have, i have a sex offender in my neighborhood, and i found out it was when he was 18 he had consentual sex with a 17 year old...i have children so it's important for me to know who is around them, i think people should just leave the sex offenders alone, if people retaliate against them then it's a priveledge we could lose and personally i don't want to do anything bad to them i just want to know who i should and shouldn't let my kids play with...in my area we have (per capita) more rapists and child molesters than anywhere else in the u.s. so i want to know who has been charged
post #11 of 22
I'm in Florida, so I am already used to our state list. We actually use it for background checks on school volunteers.
post #12 of 22
Thread Starter 
Here's a CNN article on the website: http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/interne....ap/index.html An article in Die Welt, a German paper, says that Chicago even includes "johns", i.e., prostitutes' clients. Some cities or states might be going overboard with this, and should concentrate on people who present a danger to others.
post #13 of 22
I think its a usefull tool to have. And I think it should Stay. I also hate to say this, and sound like the unpopular apple, but an 18 year old having sex with a 15 year old..even when both agree, is still illegal. Period. I dont think it should be such a HORRIBLE thing for our young people to WAIT. Would sure cut down on teen pregancys. But again, thats me and I am sure I will be the unpopular apple, but thats ok. I was 21 myself, and am marrying that man.

I wish a list like this had been around when I was a kid, we have one of the biggest pedifile, abusers in the state of minnesota found two doors down from us.

And its not just our girls we have to warn, its our boys too..this man preffered boys.
post #14 of 22
I think that the National Registry will work as well as the states' registry, which has been fine in CA so far. As for consensual teens, they are still legally children. period. The age of consent does vary by state, but since bestiality is legal in 26 states, too, I think that doesn't always say much for some of the states' laws. I know of one instance, locally, where a couple was looking for a babysitter for their young son, and one of the moms in their church used the registry and found that the husband had a conviction for consensual sex with a minor under 14yo (a previous babysitter, who was lured by the promise of beer & pot) - needless to say, those ladies kept their teen girls at home, and were able to find some older teen boys to help them out. It was rough for the wife, though; how embarrassing! but she chose to stay with her husband after his conviction, so this is what she will have to put up with. It's sad for the families esp. the kids, because then the other kids at school know. That's the problem with these crimes - there are so many victims at so many levels...By the way, did any of you read this horrific story, where the father of a 12yo girl, took her for a visitation, presumably to shop at the mall, and campers found her bound & stabbed in the forest? http://www.casperstartribune.net/art...460060f0c1.txt
The father is a reg. sex-offender who obviously needed more supervision and therapy, I wonder what else the state could have done to prevent this.
post #15 of 22
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by ScamperFarms
I think its a usefull tool to have. And I think it should Stay. I also hate to say this, and sound like the unpopular apple, but an 18 year old having sex with a 15 year old..even when both agree, is still illegal. Period. I dont think it should be such a HORRIBLE thing for our young people to WAIT. Would sure cut down on teen pregancys. But again, thats me and I am sure I will be the unpopular apple, but thats ok. I was 21 myself, and am marrying that man.

I wish a list like this had been around when I was a kid, we have one of the biggest pedifile, abusers in the state of minnesota found two doors down from us.

And its not just our girls we have to warn, its our boys too..this man preffered boys.
I understand what you're saying, but to me, statutory rape, if consensual, doesn't really compare to a 30 or 40-something abducting a 10 or 11-year-old and using force/intimidation. I suppose what I want to say is that if you make somebody a public pariah, a little more nuancing is called for.
post #16 of 22
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Originally Posted by jcat
I understand what you're saying, but to me, statutory rape, if consensual, doesn't really compare to a 30 or 40-something abducting a 10 or 11-year-old and using force/intimidation. I suppose what I want to say is that if you make somebody a public pariah, a little more nuancing is called for.

It is true that it is very much not the same. But that is where the levels IMO would come in. I am strongly for the age limitations on relations with young people. All to often a 15 year old will be mentaly "worked" by the older 18 year old. not in all cases, but...point of matter 15 is still a child. and illegal is illegal.
post #17 of 22
I live in a small town(18000) and there are 54 of them.. yikes only one "violent" ... but the next town over pop about 50000 has 121 .. I should have moved back to Omaha my old zip code only pulled two
post #18 of 22
Actually, Sharky, maybe your current area's law enforcment is doing a better job at keeping track of who's moving into their neighborhoods. Lots of these creeps don't bother to register, and because their parole officers are too busy, they slip thru the cracks unnoticed. We have a client that moved to 2 different areas without registering, but somehow, in the third town they moved to, the local police figured it out, and cited them!! Now, that's my kind of police work!!
post #19 of 22
Just had to throw my 2 cents in...

I used to know someone who was a registered sex offender. And it wasn't a level 3 sex offender but it was fairly serious. Anyway, I knew him for about 3 years and I know he was up on the site (still is actually) but he never had a problem with anyone harrassing him.

I do think that the site exists for good reason but I'll agree with some of you that the procedure should be different where it's consensual and boyfriend/girlfriend teenagers...
post #20 of 22
Your baby looks so much like my Shenandoah.

I think this is a good thing. better safe than sorry.

I would rather KNOW something like this. If it does lead to people ostracizing these individuals, that would be
better than more children being molested and killed.

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Originally Posted by Loveysmummy
Not only that, but at worst, it will likely drive the criminal underground where, then, no one will know where they are.
post #21 of 22
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Originally Posted by catsknowme
Actually, Sharky, maybe your current area's law enforcment is doing a better job at keeping track of who's moving into their neighborhoods. Lots of these creeps don't bother to register, and because their parole officers are too busy, they slip thru the cracks unnoticed. We have a client that moved to 2 different areas without registering, but somehow, in the third town they moved to, the local police figured it out, and cited them!! Now, that's my kind of police work!!
Maybe that is it ... mostly meth issues for crime here so they may have the time to get and make sure all are registerd.
post #22 of 22
Not saying that teen sex is right but........ I had a boyfriend in high school and we had been dating for 3 years (forever by high school standards) and we started sleeping together. We were both 17 when we started, then september of our sr. year he turned 18 and I was still 17, and I did not turn 18 until April of the same year. My parents never knew, but yes he could be considered a sex offender. I think these should be more of a case by case basis instead of a blanket law. Even though I do not like him now, if brought up in a court, under oath, I would still say it was 100% agreed upon by both parties, and not want to press charges. I think it would be wrong to label him a sex offender because we were 2 hormone driven teenagers. We had sex before he was 18, and after, and for about 7 months it was illegal. I think if all teenagers were honest, and thought about this, about 80% of the teenage population who are having sex has broken this law in their senior year of high school.
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