Traditional Balinese?

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I was just wondering if my mimi is really a traditional Balinese. They told us she was at the pet store, but when I look at pictures of the trad. balinese they all have the brown paws but my mimis are white. she resembles one perfectly either than the paws.
 

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If you read the breed standard for the Balinese, you will see that the points (ears, tail, face, and paws) MUST be dark, with no white hairs. You can find the breed standard at the TICA or the CFA websites. You probably have a cross.
 
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Do you know what she could be crossed with? I was thinking a ragdoll, because they have the white paws.
 
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Do they have to have the brown paws, or can the paws be white? When I got her papers, They said She was an applehead siamese, and then when I asked at Pets mart they said that she was a traditional balinese. Aren't they exactly alike?
 

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The Balinese is basically a longhaired Siamese. No white paws allowed. SOME Ragdolls have white paws, and Birmans do too, but they are much cobbier (rounder) than even the traditional-type Balinese and Siamese.
 

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Sounds like a cat I saw somewhere on a website that was described as a snowshoe cat. Can't remember what site tho. Sorry.
 
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Traditional Balinese can have the white paws. If they have white paws then they can't enter cat shows. Here is some info on the Trad. Balinese.



The ideal Traditional Balinese is a medium-to-large-sized, staunch cat of robust type, with substantial, rounded bone structure, good muscular development, possessing a solid look along with balance and proportion. They are not extreme in any way. The overall impression should be a Traditional Siamese with a flowing coat and plume tail.

The head is rounded, with brow, cheek, and profile all showing clean, strong countours. The nose has a slight, gentle dip at eye level. Medium ears, broad at the base and rounded at the tips, set as much on the sides of the head as on top; ear tufts preferred. The eyes are almond shaped, uncrossed, and deep blue.

The body is medium to large in size, solidly built, muscular in development, and presenting a well-proportioned, solid appearance. Legs well muscled, proportionate in length and bone to the body. Paws more round than oval. Tufts of hair preferred on the feet. Tail medium in length but in proportion to the body: tapering and straight (no kinks).

The coat should be shorter on the head, gradually lengthening to two inches in length. Silky in texture, dense and close-lying, flowing in appearance. Ear tufts preferred. A ruff is preferred, but should not appear thick and fluffy, as the Balinese do NOT have a downy undercoat. Pantalettes at the rear are preferred. Tail hair to spread and drape like a plume, to be carried proudly and erect.

Body color is even with subtle shading when allowed. Allowance is made for lighter body color in young cats and darker color in older cats.

Point color: Chin, mask, ears, legs, feet, and tail dense and clearly defined. All of the same shade. Except in kittens, mask covers entire face including whisker pads and is connected to ears by tracings.

Penalize: Improper (i.e. off-color or spotted) nose leather or paw pads.Ticking or white hairs except in aging cats. Bars in points. Lack of ear tufts. Lack of pantalettes. Lack of ruff. Hair shorter than two inches (except on face and head). Crossed eyes. Kinked tail, either visible or invisible.

Disqualify: Crossed eyes. Eyes other than blue. Kinked tail, either visible or invisible. Any evidence of illness or poor health. White toes and/or feet. Incorrect number of toes. Undercoat that is downy. Plush or double coat. Emaciation. Mouth breathing due to nasal obstruction or poor occlusion. Malocclusion. Wedge-shaped head with straight profile. Long, thin, tubular body. Long, thin legs, neck, or tail. Coat that has been colored or dyed. Plucking or shearing of the hair inside ear. Flat bone. Any extreme. Any artificial grooming aids. Any evidence of use of drugs to alter the appearance or disposition of the cat. Any evidence of abuse or cruelty.
 

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The reason those things are disqualifications is because some of them can be indications of outcrossing.
Maybe you should contact a Balinese breeder and ask what they think?
 
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I am going to take her to the pet store and see what they think. If that doesn't work out, On thier next vet check, I'll ask the vet.
 
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Turns out the pet store was wrong! She is a Birman!
 
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