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post #1 of 62
7/15/05 at 10:19am
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I was just wondering if this surprises or bothers anyone else…

I was watching a movie last night, it started at 11pm and it had full-frontal nudity and vulgar language(including the f-word). I have to say, everytime I see stuff like this on TV it surprises me, although it does not really bother me(usually).

But I was thinking, it is summertime, kids are out of school, probably staying up late and they can easily turn on their tv and watching people having sex(private parts exposed) and hear language and discussions that are usually only found in R rated and NC-17 rated movies.

I watch Comedy Central all the time and at 2am they will have stuff like Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle uncensored, which makes sense, because if it was edited, you would only get about every 4th or 5th word.

I am a night owl, so I stay up really late. I thought Comedy Central was the only channel that did this. And the more tv I watch, the more I realize that channels are broadcasting movies un-edited.

Even the Howard Stern show has the nudity blurred out.

I also heard that Tv channels are more lenient outside of the U.S. Is that true? Are we just uptight?

I honestly never thought I would see the day that vulgar language and nudity made it to cable TV… no matter the time of day.

Does anyone else have any thoughts on this?
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post #2 of 62
7/15/05 at 10:33am
It's more leniant here in Canada....especially as far as curse words go. After a certain time of night, certain channels (ie City TV) will air shows with swearing. I see nothing wrong with this or nudity, assuming that it is made clear at the beginning of each segment that the show is not suitable for all viewers (which it is). You make a good point about children being up later in the summer, but I feel that it is the parent's responsibility to monitor what the children are watching, not the television station. Why should my choices be limited just because a kid might see something inappropriate for their age? The shows are clearly rated based on content, and the reasons for those ratings explained after each commercial break. That's my opinion, anyway. Good thread topic, btw!
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post #3 of 62
7/15/05 at 10:34am
We are uptight here in the US.

Personally, I like the fact that some of the even basic cable channels (Comedy Central and FX in particular) have more raw shows geared toward ADULTS. Know what? Adults make up the majority of the population, and we are certainly the ones that advertisers want to market to. The kiddies just plain don't make money. I guess being an adult and one who chooses to be childless, I get so tired of so much in society being censored or banned because it's "bad for the children".

Two shows in particular on FX that we really like are The Shield and Rescue Me. Neither would be appropriate for network TV, but both are seriously powerful shows.
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post #4 of 62
7/15/05 at 10:36am
mfer, I thought that was the primary reason for the burgeoning of cable, so they could show what would otherwise be banned from being broadcast over the airwaves.

Perhaps I'm wrong. (it wouldn't be the first time)

I find excessive nudity and foul language to be offensive, and I am a 72 year old man.

If it is absolutely necessary for the telling of the story, OK, but it is rarely necessary for that reason.

Has anyone tried to watch Deadwood ? ?

Unbelievable, totally unbelievable.

Personally, I found some of the old Doris Day and Audrey Hepburn stuff very naughty and exciting because they left so much to the imagination.

Leonard
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post #5 of 62
7/15/05 at 10:41am
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I agree with you both. I enjoy having stuff that is not edited. And I dont have a problem with it. But it still surprises me for some reason. I sit there with my mouth open thinking 'did he just say that' or 'did i just see that'. And I think it has been because we are so uneasy with the thought of nudity and what-not being all over the television.
I realize it is the parents responsibility to monitor the kids. But what about kids with tv's in their own rooms. They will watch while their parents are sleeping(like i did). And it is hard to decide what to block with parental controls because the same channels that broadcast decent cartoons and sitcoms are the same channels that broadcast Adult themed shows at night.
I watch Nip/Tuck on FX all the time. But the first time I saw it, I remember thinking, 'this is a lawsuit waiting to happen'.
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post #6 of 62
7/15/05 at 10:43am
Then those children shouldn't have tv's in their own room if the parent objects to certain programming and can't exercise that control.

And why is frontal nudity so offensive? I never understoood that.

I can see certain people being offended by excessive swearing.
I swear a fair bit and thus it has less power over me.
I do exercise good judgement when around certain people it might offend.

The best job interview I had was at a women-centred clinic where the director said "F**king" in a sentence. SHe did it to gauge my reaction. If I was overly offended or lost my composure, she knew I wouldn't be right for a job where all day long I would listen to young girls and adult women speaking up front and personal.

I got the job
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post #7 of 62
7/15/05 at 10:46am
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Originally Posted by winwin

Has anyone tried to watch Deadwood ? ?

Unbelievable, totally unbelievable.
we used to go over to a friends house and watch deadwood and the sopranos. now i dont have a problem watching this stuff by myself, but watching it with company. that made me very uncomfortable for some reason. i mean, we are good friends, but whenever they were doing something sexual, i felt like i was watching porn with my friends. probably just because we are all underexposed to stuff like that... not that we need to be exposed though
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post #8 of 62
7/15/05 at 10:51am
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Originally Posted by Loveysmummy
And why is frontal nudity so offensive? I never understoood that.
its not really offensive to me, although it may be to others, however it is uncomfortable when all of a sudden you are watching something and then someone pops on the screen and you not expecting it, (or you have never or rarley seen that happen on tv) and i am sitting there thinking "hmm, i just saw her woo-woo or his wee-wee" they could have gotten their point across with out it, but whatever
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post #9 of 62
7/15/05 at 10:53am
Germany has full frontal nudity, sex and swearing on network television - during prime time. The only thing that's really censored is violence. I've been here for so long that I rarely spare it a thought.
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post #10 of 62
7/15/05 at 10:54am
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Originally Posted by mferr84
I agree with you both. I enjoy having stuff that is not edited. And I dont have a problem with it. But it still surprises me for some reason. I sit there with my mouth open thinking 'did he just say that' or 'did i just see that'. And I think it has been because we are so uneasy with the thought of nudity and what-not being all over the television.
I realize it is the parents responsibility to monitor the kids. But what about kids with tv's in their own rooms. They will watch while their parents are sleeping(like i did). And it is hard to decide what to block with parental controls because the same channels that broadcast decent cartoons and sitcoms are the same channels that broadcast Adult themed shows at night.
I watch Nip/Tuck on FX all the time. But the first time I saw it, I remember thinking, 'this is a lawsuit waiting to happen'.
Right, but there are better blockers and such that parents can use. There is the V-chip option. With Dish Network there is a pretty good parental block thingie where you can block entire channels or block by rating (I think), with a password that can unblock for the adults. And you know, kids will be kids. They are going to try to sneak and watch R rated movies (or TV-M now), and most of them will succeed. They will probably hear worse language with their friends or family. And sex? Well, our culture puts way too much emphasis on the evils of it and makes it way too forbidden.
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post #11 of 62
7/15/05 at 10:55am
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Originally Posted by valanhb
Right, but there are better blockers and such that parents can use. There is the V-chip option. With Dish Network there is a pretty good parental block thingie where you can block entire channels or block by rating (I think), with a password that can unblock for the adults. And you know, kids will be kids. They are going to try to sneak and watch R rated movies (or TV-M now), and most of them will succeed. They will probably hear worse language with their friends or family. And sex? Well, our culture puts way too much emphasis on the evils of it and makes it way too forbidden.
true
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post #12 of 62
7/15/05 at 10:56am
It takes a lot to shock me, so working in a place where there are 4 women to nearly 40 men, and most of them are on the factory floor, you can't really be a prude

Our " watershed " as they call it in the UK, where it's classed as not suitable for children is 10.p.m., so after that if the kids stay up to watch t.v. and the parents are happy with it then they can't complain.

But like i say to people at work who are disgusted by anything on t.v. is " Switch it over then if your offended!! "
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post #13 of 62
7/15/05 at 10:58am
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Originally Posted by valanhb
Two shows in particular on FX that we really like are The Shield and Rescue Me. Neither would be appropriate for network TV, but both are seriously powerful shows.
We have only seen season one of the shield here...

I need my fix.

We dont tend to censor too much stuff here in sweden - Movies start at 9pm in the evening - sometimes later. I tend to laugh when I turn on mtv and they are blurring over every little naughty bit in sight - Just in case the kiddies watching actually learn something about the human body... I was stunned one time when animal planet blurred out *something* when some lions were mating - I could not believe that.
I dont mind nudity or swearing - but when it is for no reason it just makes something tacky.
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post #14 of 62
7/15/05 at 11:22am
Okay - I made a post, and I can see it when I click on reply to thread, but it is not in the main viewing list?

Ok, It appeared now..

Argh!!! Its stalking me - my own post is stalking me!!
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post #15 of 62
7/15/05 at 11:23am
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Originally Posted by winwin
If it is absolutely necessary for the telling of the story, OK, but it is rarely necessary for that reason.
I agree!!
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post #16 of 62
7/15/05 at 11:50am
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Originally Posted by valanhb
Know what? Adults make up the majority of the population, and we are certainly the ones that advertisers want to market to. The kiddies just plain don't make money. I guess being an adult and one who chooses to be childless, I get so tired of so much in society being censored or banned because it's "bad for the children".
Totally agree. It's the parents' job to monitor what their children are watching on TV and to change the channel if a certain show is innapropriate - I don't ever remember seeing sex or extreme violence on TV as a young child, because my mother actually PARENTED me and made sure I only watched shows that were appropriate for young children, rather than letting the TV raise me. Same goes for adults who don't enjoy a certain show, for that matter - I don't enjoy gratuitous violence on TV, so if I turn on a show and it happens to have tonnes of that, then I turn the channel - pretty simple, IMO. Actually, what shocks me is not that there is sex and violence and swearing on TV, but that there are actually people who expect TV to be tailored to their specific tastes, or that all shows will be appropriate for their kids so that they don't have to actually parent and monitor what their kids are watching.
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post #17 of 62
7/15/05 at 12:27pm
Cable TV these days has a wonderful device called the V chip for parental control.
Easy enough to use if one wishes to shield children from this sort of thing when parental supervision isn't available.
You can't protect your kids from this stuff forever, better for them to see it at home (with a parent!) and be taught what it means and why it is inappropriate for them.
Kids are no where near as stupid as some people think they are (another reason it's better for them to be exposed to it at home than elsewhere).
When provided with facts, most over the age of ten can make pretty informed descisions.

I envy more open countries overseas.
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post #18 of 62
7/15/05 at 2:08pm
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Originally Posted by jcat
Germany has full frontal nudity, sex and swearing on network television - during prime time. The only thing that's really censored is violence. I've been here for so long that I rarely spare it a thought.


But it does bother me i mean i kind of find it sick?
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post #19 of 62
7/15/05 at 3:47pm
I get tired of the Religious community trying to tell me that certain things cannot be on the TV because they find this or that offensive. Hey people every TV that I have ever seen in my 50 years on this eaeth has come equiped with two things...A channel changer and an on/off switch. You have no right to tell me I cannot watch something because "GOD DOESN'T LIKE IT" Well guess what, if that is true God will deal with me in his own good time and doesn't need your help with the problem. As far as your children go, you have, them you raise them, you decide what they will or will not watch by using the aforementioned on/off switch.
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post #20 of 62
7/15/05 at 3:49pm
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Originally Posted by BigKittenDaddy
I get tired of the Religious community trying to tell me that certain things cannot be on the TV because they find this or that offensive. Hey people every TV that I have ever seen in my 50 years on this eaeth has come equiped with two things...A channel changer and an on/off switch. You have no right to tell me I cannot watch something because "GOD DOESN'T LIKE IT" Well guess what, if that is true God will deal with me in his own good time and doesn't need your help with the problem. As far as your children go, you have, them you raise them, you decide what they will or will not watch by using the aforementioned on/off switch.
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post #21 of 62
7/15/05 at 4:04pm
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Originally Posted by BigKittenDaddy
I get tired of the Religious community trying to tell me that certain things cannot be on the TV because they find this or that offensive. Hey people every TV that I have ever seen in my 50 years on this eaeth has come equiped with two things...A channel changer and an on/off switch. You have no right to tell me I cannot watch something because "GOD DOESN'T LIKE IT" Well guess what, if that is true God will deal with me in his own good time and doesn't need your help with the problem. As far as your children go, you have, them you raise them, you decide what they will or will not watch by using the aforementioned on/off switch.

Hey you're right on target Howard. And God has made it easier than ever, with the invention of the remote. Way to go big man!
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post #22 of 62
7/15/05 at 5:56pm
I enjoy having adult-themed shows available on tv because of the simple fact that I am an adult. I would just do away with the tv altogether before I'd let a child watch half the shows I like.

If parents would actually do some parenting and quit leaving it up to the children to choose their own shows (sorry, but "you watch only what i tell you" is null and void the second you stuff a tv in the kid's room) , they wouldn't be unpleasantly surprised when they walk in on junior watching "drunken soroity slut mudfights" instead of Teletubbies.

Another thing: I would appreciate it if, instead of petitioning for a show with an "m" rating on cable to be cancelled because it's against your religion to have human urges or you think it's not for children, that the extreme fundies and parents who think that everyone should live by the standards they've set for their child just (gasp) not watch the shows. in fact, just block anything over "g" rating off your tv.

If the sight of a bodypart 99.9% of humans on earth possesses offends you to the point of seething rage, you're not mature enough to watch the show anyway.

It is your choice to watch what you want, as much as it is mine. Either watch for a few seconds, weep in the corner, and never watch it again, or just turn off the tv and read a book. But do not tell me that I am wrong for liking something or try to have it cancelled.
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post #23 of 62
7/15/05 at 7:45pm
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Originally Posted by jcat
Germany has full frontal nudity, sex and swearing on network television - during prime time. The only thing that's really censored is violence. I've been here for so long that I rarely spare it a thought.
Europeans are a bit less puritanical than people in the US.
I wonder how Euro teen pregnancy and STD rates compare to the US...?

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Originally Posted by BigKittenDaddy
I get tired of the Religious community trying to tell me that certain things cannot be on the TV because they find this or that offensive. Hey people every TV that I have ever seen in my 50 years on this eaeth has come equiped with two things...A channel changer and an on/off switch. You have no right to tell me I cannot watch something because "GOD DOESN'T LIKE IT" Well guess what, if that is true God will deal with me in his own good time and doesn't need your help with the problem. As far as your children go, you have, them you raise them, you decide what they will or will not watch by using the aforementioned on/off switch.
AMEN!!!
Adults should be allowed to decide for themselves what they get to watch.

Oh, and....
My little soapbox rant....
You're right.
Parents need to be PARENTS. My mom and dad had things they didn't want me to watch and they made sure I didn't watch those things. Of course, my parents are baby-boomers, and have a bit more sense than my generation...gotta love spoiled GenXers raising spoiled kids.... LOL
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post #24 of 62
7/15/05 at 10:32pm
Everyone should just walk around naked except when it is too cold out side, and get the hell over it. We put too much emphasis that being naked is "wrong" and "bad"

Hell... I think that we are so focused with sex in our society because we HIDE it.

There wouldnt be half as mmany child molestors or rapers if everyone just walked around naked.....

The whole thing besides power with them is that it is something hidden, something secret, something they should not have, which is exactly why they want to have it.

If you think about african tribes and such things like that, the men dont stand around all day staring at the naked little kids. I mean, it wouldnt be as exciting anymore for people like that if it was exposed to them everywhere. But eh. Just my opinion I guess.
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post #25 of 62
7/16/05 at 12:53am
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Originally Posted by slitty_kittay
Okay - I made a post, and I can see it when I click on reply to thread, but it is not in the main viewing list?

Ok, It appeared now..

Argh!!! Its stalking me - my own post is stalking me!!
Ya know...I had something to say about censorship but your post totally made me forget. ::still laughing::

Oh umm.... cursing and nudity don't bother me in the least. I hate censorship with a passion but here in America there's always going to be a war over the issue of what is and what is not "tolerable". I've seen plenty of movies filled with violence, sex and profane language and look how well adjusted I am!

Trust me, I am.
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post #26 of 62
7/16/05 at 1:30am
I think if you don't want to see it, change the channel.
They even have some sort of lock now to prevent your children from watching certain shows when you are not around to prevent it.
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post #27 of 62
7/16/05 at 9:08am
One of my favourite shows of all times, is The Sopranos. There is plenty of nudity, and swearing on that show. It's on cable of course. It doesn''t shock me or surprise me to see nudity and swearing as well as adult situations on Cable TV. I wish they were more open minded on regular TV. The US is the most prudish Country out there, except for probably the Middle Eastern Muslim countries. People seem to have less problem with graphic violence than they do with nudity. It doesn't make sense to me.
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post #28 of 62
7/17/05 at 6:29pm
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Originally Posted by HopeHacker
People seem to have less problem with graphic violence than they do with nudity. It doesn't make sense to me.
My partner was laughing today when he peeked at a surgical *makeover* type tv show I was watching - They had taken great care to blur out the tiny bit of nipple on the woman, even while they showed doctor with his hand INSIDE the rest of the breast, juggling around skin and tissue (she was having a lift and implant)

I mean - we had already seen the inside of her breasts... But a nipple? - shock horror!!
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post #29 of 62
7/17/05 at 6:33pm
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Originally Posted by slitty_kittay
My partner was laughing today when he peeked at a surgical *makeover* type tv show I was watching - They had taken great care to blur out the tiny bit of nipple on the woman, even while they showed doctor with his hand INSIDE the rest of the breast, juggling around skin and tissue (she was having a lift and implant)

I mean - we had already seen the inside of her breasts... But a nipple? - shock horror!!
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post #30 of 62
7/18/05 at 5:05am
Could it be that nudity is what is enjoyed by 2 people who care for each other (at least at the moment) and do not want the currency of their affection to made counterfeit by needless proliferation ?

Leonard
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