Going to be lean for awhile guys-

sammie5 · Jul 24, 2005

MA, that is great! I've been waiting for news this morning. Let's hope he reached a turning point and is on the road to recovery.

batgirl2good · Jul 24, 2005

I am praying for you all as well, MA. You are the best! You have such a great attitude.

hissy · Jul 24, 2005

Well I don't think this is going to be a miracle. What I think is everyone's prayers and good thoughts has sent healing energy into this horse who was so zapped before he couldn't move. It has likewise allowed me to leave my negative energy behind and to concentrate on seeing a whole and complete horse moving pain-free across the fields-

sammie5 · Jul 24, 2005

And that, I believe, is exactly the point. You were in a desperately low state, and the positive energy of all of us here have helped you to gain the strength you need for the continued battle. And that has obviously helped Racer too - he knows were all rooting for him!

xocats · Jul 24, 2005

May God's blessings enfold you & Racer and give you peace.

Lei

hissy · Jul 24, 2005

Hmm I thought I just posted this- but can't find it- with my brain dead attitude I probably put it on another post unrelated-

At any rate, here is Racer taken this morning

sammie5 · Jul 24, 2005

Awww. There's our boy! He's standing so straight and tall!

xocats · Jul 24, 2005

MA..Racer looks like he is standing better this morning. Is that what is happening?

hissy · Jul 24, 2005

This is how he has been until this morning- unless one of us goes and forces him up

xocats · Jul 24, 2005

Oh my gosh...our prayers are working. Racer looks just beautiful standing on his own.

AbbysMom · Jul 24, 2005

Wow, he looks great! Let us know if you need us to band together again!

mferr84 · Jul 24, 2005

Originally Posted by Pat & Alix

I haven't done this often, there was an amazing sense of calm and warmth during my prayer...

my feelings exactly

MA, I am ecstatic to hear about Racer's progress both last night and this morning! You both are constantly in my thoughts and prayers

beckiboo · Jul 24, 2005

I think we should set aside 15-30 minutes each night 7:30 in Oregon time, to continue to pray together for Racer. Founder is a very tricky illness, because of the constriction of the hoof. The blood supply to the area is limited, and if the tissue dies, the horse's bone will drop right through the hoof, killing the horse.

The progress Racer has made is amazing. Not only is the standing up an improvement, but with each step he takes, he forces the healing blood to move through the tissue in the hoof. But he is still in critical condition, and Hissy is emotionally spent. They are improved, but both continue to be in need of serious intervention.

Tonight at 7:30 Pacific Time I will again be in prayer for Racer and Hissy. We are part of a miracle of God, lets keep it up!

For those (like myself) who have trouble figuring out what time...here is a link telling you Hissy's time.
http://wwp.pacific-standard-time.com/

xocats · Jul 24, 2005

I will join with you in prayer for MA & Racer tonight.

mferr84 · Jul 24, 2005

Great Idea Beckiboo!

hissy · Jul 24, 2005

Thank you Becky- and you are right, Founder is tricky, not only because the vets can't tell me why he is foundering, but because once a horse has foundered, there really isn't a "cure." You just keep trying things hoping they work- ie..here are some of the "treatments" I have been told about- or that I have tried-
taking them off hay and putting them on hay stretcher
putting their feet in ice water
putting their feet in hot water and epsom salts
putting corrective shoes on them
keeping the shoes off and doing a barefoot trim that rolls back the toes
keeping them stalled
keeping them in the paddock but not stalled
bringing in sand so they can stand on it
don't bring in the sand because it can cripple the horse or they can sand colic and die
putting them on bute long-term then they develop ulcers or worse
putting them on banamine long-term and then they develop ulcers or worse
not feeding any treats
not feeding any grain

You can see how some treatments contradict others and it is quite confusing. The danger is really the coffin bone (aptly named) and how much it has rotated due to the founder. If it over rotates, it will slide right down his leg out the bottom of his foot and he will have to be euthanzed quickly as the pain is intense and there is no going back once that happens-

rapunzel47 · Jul 24, 2005

I'm glad to hear Racer's progress continues.

Not a whole lot you can be sure about in terms of treatment and prognosis, though, is there?

Well, then, we'll just keep the prayers coming for as long as it takes.

hopehacker · Jul 24, 2005

Originally Posted by hissy

Thank you Becky- and you are right, Founder is tricky, not only because the vets can't tell me why he is foundering, but because once a horse has foundered, there really isn't a "cure." You just keep trying things hoping they work- ie..here are some of the "treatments" I have been told about- or that I have tried-
taking them off hay and putting them on hay stretcher
putting their feet in ice water
putting their feet in hot water and epsom salts
putting corrective shoes on them
keeping the shoes off and doing a barefoot trim that rolls back the toes
keeping them stalled
keeping them in the paddock but not stalled
bringing in sand so they can stand on it
don't bring in the sand because it can cripple the horse or they can sand colic and die
putting them on bute long-term then they develop ulcers or worse
putting them on banamine long-term and then they develop ulcers or worse
not feeding any treats
not feeding any grain

You can see how some treatments contradict others and it is quite confusing. The danger is really the coffin bone (aptly named) and how much it has rotated due to the founder. If it over rotates, it will slide right down his leg out the bottom of his foot and he will have to be euthanzed quickly as the pain is intense and there is no going back once that happens-

Hissy, I must tell you my father used to care for horses as a farrier for the movie studios, as well as for show horses. The corrective shoe was something he often employed when it came to horses that foundered. Also, I had a pony that foundered when I was a child, and my father put corrective shoes on him, and although he walked a little stiff, he was fine, and in fact I was able to ride him just about every day. I wish my father was still alive, because I know he could help you and Racer.

gailc · Jul 24, 2005

Just caught up on this post. Keeping my fingers crossed for Racer's improvement to continue.

cilla · Jul 24, 2005

Way to go Racer

Keep it up, you are much too beautiful to let this horrible thing happen to you. You are doing a marvellous job MA

I will be praying with you all at 7.30 Oregon time and will come back here afterwards.
God Bless MA and Racer

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