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FAT MAN WALKING - what do you think about this?

post #1 of 21
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I saw a video clip of this guy on MSNBC this a.m. and he seems like a sincere guy. And I found his website thru yahoo! http://www.thefatmanwalking.com/. While I applaud his efforts, I wonder how fair it is to his wife & children, that they lose their property & car. I guess you could say that it's better than him dying, but the unhappy reality is that financially, they'd probably be better off. (I speak from personal experience, from being a widow, to having young widows in my family). but if he comes back a happier individual who is a great husband & father, well, that's something that so many people wish that money COULD buy! I just keep flip-flopping IMO. What are your views?
post #2 of 21
I think that he's selfish. Why can't he keep his property and car (he does have children who he is responsible for) and make a commitment to walk 3 miles every day after he gets home from work? He can also make it a point to eat healthy and maybe even include his family in his journey so that they too can learn a healthy lifestyle.

I think that he wants attention or 15 min of fame from this? Who knows, BUT there are other ways to go about his mission.
post #3 of 21
So what is going to happen to his wife and kids while he takes off for 6 months? If he's going to lose his property does that mean he will just stop making mortgage payments and get his family evicted from their house? Where are they going to live? What is going to happen to his credit? Is he selling his house and car- or just going to allow them to be "lost"?
post #4 of 21
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Phew!! I am so relieved to read your posts -The correspondents at MSNBC were so supportive that I thought that maybe I was the only one thinking, "But what about the wife & kids left behind?" And after I went to his website, and he said that even though this walk means that he will lose his car & property, he won't be losing his life, and then I really began to wonder.....The sad part is that Catharine has a great idea, and then his children could participate in his life...But, if anyone wants to debate the other side, I'd like to consider their points, too...
post #5 of 21
Well, I'm going to be the dissenting voice here.

I've read the majority of his journal, which his wife is keeping up. She is very supportive of him. It also said on the front page that he discussed this with his wife and kids before getting serious about it. If his family can support him on this, why can't we? Material possessions come and go, but for him to die early in life and leave his wife a widow and his children without a father because he couldn't lose weight the traditional way when there was another option available to him...well, that to me is selfish. As a Marine I have no doubt that he will do it, and I also have no doubt that he has tried a multitude of other methods to lose weight and failed. It's not like he was 20 pounds overweight. He was pushing 400 pounds. Would it have been any more fiscally responsible of him to get the surgery for $20,000 which most insurance plans won't cover?

Also, did anyone else look at the Supporters page? With all the media attention he is getting across the country and nationally, I really have no doubt that there are contributions to keep his family in their home.

He's probably tried making a committment to exercising and healthy eating. Goodness knows I have, and every time life gets in the way, something comes up, and it goes to the wayside. If he's 500 miles from home (where he is now), and the only way to go is forward there are no excuses to stop. This is a HUGE committment by him to lose weight and get healthy, and after everything he goes through to lose the weight he will definitely have motivation to stay healthy - to NOT have to go to that extreme again!
post #6 of 21
I know all the arguments pro and con, but is there the least bit of sense to the opinion that if it doesn't go in your mouth, it can't stick to your butt ? ?

Bad shape ? ?

OMG, give me a break ! ! !

I wish I could get up every morning, strap on 250 pounds and go about my business ! !

Crap, I couldn't even get up off the floor ! !

I have been through it all, the "mental stress" that causes you to eat, the low income that precludes a healthy menu, and I finally found out that it takes only one thing, WILL POWER, and that alone will do it, and I seriously question whether we are doing anyone a favor to hold out the unrealistic hope that there is a substitute for will power, for when you do, you are simply enabling them to continue their destructive behaviour.

Sometimes "tough love" is the only answer.

Leonard
post #7 of 21
I'd like to know how exactly much he weighed when he started. I find it hard to believe they didnt know.
post #8 of 21
OK, I read the whole journal first. Two points: 1. If his wife and children are willing to deal with the financial hardship, I'm not going to say "boo" (even though I might choose differently if it were me). 2. Did he consult a doctor about whether or not this particular method of weight loss would be beneficial, overall?

I ask the second question because when pushing 400 lbs your organs are stressed out just maintaining you, let alone hauling you around for miles and miles every day. It is entirely possible that he will overdo it and induce a heart attack. Also, all that weight is landing on his feet, as he's noticed, since practically every post notes that he has terrible blisters and his shoes are falling to pieces. I think he's overreaching here, and should have set a more reasonable, perhaps staggered, goal. There are "basic training" camps for the overweight would be one option. Or, it was noted that he has a brother in NM. Rather than just stopping there on the way to NY, he should have made that his GOAL. That way he could walk fewer miles each day to start and slowly increase it, thereby going easier on his body until he loses a bit more weight. He would still have been gone for 6 months doing his "mission", it would still make him lose weight, but it would be healthier overall. Given that he is two months in and is only in Arizona, what is going to happen is that he will fail because he set an unreasonable goal, and that failure will ruin all his great motivation.
post #9 of 21
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Originally Posted by slitty_kittay
I'd like to know how exactly much he weighed when he started. I find it hard to believe they didnt know.
Most heavy duty scales only go to 350 pounds. If he is off the scale you just have to estimate.

The people who weigh in at say 700 pounds in the hospital are often weighed on the laundry scale. How humiliating!

If his wife and kids support him, I say go for it. Nothing is stopping her from having a job to help make ends meet. And hopefully they just had to downsize, not become homeless! I would give up my home and car rather than my healthy husband.

I hope this works for them!
post #10 of 21
I clicked on the likn and got this message:
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post #11 of 21
The site is unavailable but I'll put in my 2 cents worth.
I have a Bro-in-law about 15 yrs or so ago he was diagnosed with sleep apnea due to his weight and has been sleeping with that oxygen thing ever since.
Shortly after that he had his FIRST gastric bypass. He did lose maybe about 75 lbs but gained it all back. He is a lifelong bachelor, no good eating and coooking habits.
Or exercise-all he does is sit in front of TV. So many health problems and medication wow.

2 yrs ago gastric bypass AGAIN!!! Had some complications. But since he had to pay this out of his pocket-including extended hospital stay-$40,000.00. He's been better on eating and doing some water exercise. He has a nephew staying with him so maybe that helps. I don't know about the meds-he wants knee surgery but the doc won't do it until a certain weight is reached.
He never really talks about his goals-I thought he had mentioned losing about 125#.

He does get support from us but he lives 2 1/2hr from us and add another 1hr for the rest of his siblings.

So I understand he knows he needs to lose the weight. It he going about it the right way. Probably not. But at least he is trying and it does bring attention to this increasing obesity problem in the US.
post #12 of 21
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Originally Posted by winwin
I know all the arguments pro and con, but is there the least bit of sense to the opinion that if it doesn't go in your mouth, it can't stick to your butt ? ?

Bad shape ? ?

OMG, give me a break ! ! !

I wish I could get up every morning, strap on 250 pounds and go about my business ! !

Crap, I couldn't even get up off the floor ! !

I have been through it all, the "mental stress" that causes you to eat, the low income that precludes a healthy menu, and I finally found out that it takes only one thing, WILL POWER, and that alone will do it, and I seriously question whether we are doing anyone a favor to hold out the unrealistic hope that there is a substitute for will power, for when you do, you are simply enabling them to continue their destructive behavior.

Sometimes "tough love" is the only answer.

Leonard
Sure willpower is essential, but like hair on your head not everyone has the same amount. Willpower only, is very simplistic, many overweight folks are also depressed, and it's hard to say which came first, the depression or the overeating. Overeating is akin to alcoholism, both are complex problems without a simple answer. Good luck to this man.
post #13 of 21
I applaud him for all the walking and for trying to better his health but he should have thought it thru a little more and set up something for his wife and kids to take care of them while he is gone.
post #14 of 21
I don't understand how this journey across the country is going to help him AFTER it's over. He used to be in shape, right? If he lost the ability to exercise self discipline before, I doubt he'll regain it afterwards. I think it's just an attempt at his "15 minutes". Self discipline and self control isn't something he's "magically" going to have or after this trip. I mean keeping myself healthy and exercisng is a way of life for me. It has to be. I don't think this trip will change his way of life. I mean, I don't WANT to lift weights 3 times a week and run 3.5 miles 6 days a week but I do because it's part of my lifestyle now. How is this ridiculous trip shaping a normal workout routine or healthy eating habits for him? I don't see how this will change his lifestyle 6 months after it's over.
post #15 of 21
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I am so IMPRESSED with the great thoughts going on in this thread - if I was on a jury hearing this debate, I'd really be swinging like a pendulum!! Esp. Kellyfaber's comments got me curious, so I checked out info. on the Dr.Phil website, and I have to agree - what caused this man who apparently has a very loving,supportive family to deteriorate from a fit Marine to his present condition. Maybe Dr. Phil will give some public comment for us (or maybe he has - does anyone know).
post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by catsknowme
I am so IMPRESSED with the great thoughts going on in this thread - if I was on a jury hearing this debate, I'd really be swinging like a pendulum!! Esp. Kellyfaber's comments got me curious, so I checked out info. on the Dr.Phil website, and I have to agree - what caused this man who apparently has a very loving,supportive family to deteriorate from a fit Marine to his present condition. Maybe Dr. Phil will give some public comment for us (or maybe he has - does anyone know).
I would LOVE to hear what Dr. Phil would have to say about this. I mean, I respect the guy for getting off his butt and doing something about his obesity but this STUNT is not the answer. You have to be committed to changing your lifestyle to get fit. Why is this guy so sure that his everyday life will change once this trip is over? What's to stop him from falling right back into the same bad habits? He needs to complete a "mental journey" instead of this "cross country journey".
post #17 of 21
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post #18 of 21
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Originally Posted by Kellyyfaber
I would LOVE to hear what Dr. Phil would have to say about this. I mean, I respect the guy for getting off his butt and doing something about his obesity but this STUNT is not the answer. You have to be committed to changing your lifestyle to get fit. Why is this guy so sure that his everyday life will change once this trip is over? What's to stop him from falling right back into the same bad habits? He needs to complete a "mental journey" instead of this "cross country journey".
That is a good point, but I have to say that taking 6 months away from the ingrained bad habits and going through the mental and physical strains of this walk would certainly change MY habits! If nothing else, I would never allow myself to get to the point where I had to take such a drastic step after going through all of that. In his walking, he has nothing to do but think. Think about how he let himself go. Think about how he needs to change and stop those bad habits. Think about a concrete plan to go about ensuring those habits are broken. And he's got 6 months to get into good eating patterns, and obviously he has the exercise part worked into it.
post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by valanhb
That is a good point, but I have to say that taking 6 months away from the ingrained bad habits and going through the mental and physical strains of this walk would certainly change MY habits! If nothing else, I would never allow myself to get to the point where I had to take such a drastic step after going through all of that. In his walking, he has nothing to do but think. Think about how he let himself go. Think about how he needs to change and stop those bad habits. Think about a concrete plan to go about ensuring those habits are broken. And he's got 6 months to get into good eating patterns, and obviously he has the exercise part worked into it.
That's true, he will have to do a lot of thinking during this walk--that will be very beneficial to him. What I wonder is, what is he gonna do when he gets back to his real life? It's very easy to lose weight when you can take 6 months away from your "real life" to work on losing weight, because all you have to do during that time is work on losing weight. The REAL challenge will begin when he goes back to his normal life. Will he still exercise when he works 9 hour days, takes the kids to soccer practice, mows the lawn, etc. The hardest part will be staying fit AND supporting his family.
post #20 of 21
Mom, you could very well be right, but I still would not offer anyone the crutch of an excuse when the obvious bottom line is, they and they alone are responsible for taking the action required to break the cycle.

I see a slight difference in willpower and hair, in that if they were equal, then I would "will" my bald spot away.

Leonard
post #21 of 21
Like you say Kelly, I think its better than him sitting on his butt - however I dont know how he is going to stop from sliding back again when he gets home. How is this solving the problem(s) that caused him to get so big in the first place?
I hope it works out for him.
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